False Fanfic; Obito outclasses Itachi.

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Pretty obvious, I'd say, but hey, here's the argument:

1. Obito said Itachi could kill him with knowledge

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And knowledge is gained from experience, for those of you who don't know.

So Obito carefully guarding his secrets means he was the one keeping his distance.

2. Why didn't Itachi kill him then?

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Why didn't the Five Kages and all of their guards kill Tobi?

Why'd didn't Minato with all of Konoha kill Tobi?

Because Obito can phase out of and teleport away from any fight.

3. Itachi was the one (who couldn't teleport) surrounded by Tobi's allies.

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Why didn't Tobi defeat Itachi and control him with genjutsu like he did with Yagura?

Why didn't Tobi store Itachi in the handy-dandy pocket-dimension until he needed him like with Torrune?

Why didn't Tobi replace Itachi with a White Zetsu clone for Sasuke like he did with Kisame?

Why did Tobi hide in the shadows for years when Itachi joined, and didn't emerge until just before Itachi died?

4. Itachi was Tobi's problem.

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Regardless of translation specifics, Itachi was a problem.

And Tobi didn't make a move on Konoha until Itachi was dead.

If Tobi betrayed a pact after the pactmaker died, that means he didn't respect the pact.

Only the pactmaker. Tobi didn't move purely because he didn't want to cross a living Itachi.

He had Akatsuki annihilating Konoha before Itachi's body was even cold.

4. Tobi thought Itachi was the bee's-knees. Itachi thought Tobi ['current Madara'] was pathetic.

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And you'd be surprised how many can't differentiate 'pathetic shell of former self' from 'invincible Madara.'



5. Tobi's Kamui has an obvious counter.

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Tobi cannot attack and defend at the same time.

Gai countered Obito's offense with his nunchucks. It isn't unstoppable.

But guess who has clones? Guess who can fool a Dragon Sage and EMS user with feints?

Guess whose clones explode, which can make Obito absorb explosive damage like Konan did?

Heck, he has exploding clones and one of the fastest ninjutsu and one the fastest jutsu molding speeds.

Itachi's a walking counter to Obito's Kamui.

The author wouldn't even have to create new jutsu out of nowehere for Itachi to look great...

5. Tobi's only other primary jutsu was Izanagi

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Who was that ninja with the jutsu specifically designed to trounce Izanagi?

Conclusion

So, why didn't the terminally ill teenager with deteriorating eyesight that was waltzing around the enemy base as a known double-agent for nearly a decade, who was actively keeping the Big Bad from attacking Konoha again, kill the Big Bad? Because the Big Bad was hiding in the shadows. He was hiding from Itachi so effectively that even the readers didn't know he existed until the 300 chapters in.


Pretty obvious, I'd say, but hey, here's the argument:

1. Obito said Itachi could kill him with knowledge

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And knowledge is gained from experience, for those of you who don't know.​




1) Obito said Itachi could kill him with knowledge? Whilst seemingly a correct interpretation, "Lit" just chooses the side to this ambiguous quote stated by Obito. With knowledge, yes he could kill him. Not in a way that Itachi could solo him, but reveal Obito's secrets, secret identity, and motives to the Kages, therefore turning the akatsuki against him, meaning there won't be a revival of madara and basically a bounty on his head. 'I'd be dead right now' is also an exaggeration since no one can actually kill him as long as he has his phasing ability. With knowledge there's no way Itachi gets past obito's kamui. You know some day you'll need to look at the deeper meaning b4 stopping at the point where the quote pleases you.


So Obito carefully guarding his secrets means he was the one keeping his distance.


2) Obito was keeping his distance because they both agreed that Obito would keep away from the village and not attack it, in return Itachi wouldn't reveal his identity to others. Read the manga son. :rolleyes:






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2. Why didn't Itachi kill him then?

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Why didn't the Five Kages and all of their guards kill Tobi?

Why'd didn't Minato with all of Konoha kill Tobi?

Because Obito can phase out of and teleport away from any fight.

Why couldn't Obito kill itachi?

Because he couldn't. Obito negs the Itachi's Yata and Totsuka with phasing. Itachi had plenty of chances to hunt down Obito, but he knew that Obito's MS was far superior. Itachi needed Sasuke's MS to compete with madara, as stated by Itachi himself.

a) Tobi can actually take 5 kages alone, and still med diff them, seeing as he took on 2 perfect Jinjuriki, One 8 gate user, and one other MS user. :rolleyes:

b) It was Obito, a 14 year old, vs a hokage. Lol don't get ahead of yourself brah. He's only an inexperienced 14 year old who tamed a tailed beast. Itachi was incapable of such thing.

try again buddy :rolleyes:

If anything, why couldn't Itachi kill his own clan, and had to seek help for Obito? Lol.


5. Tobi's Kamui has an obvious counter.

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Tobi cannot attack and defend at the same time.

Gai countered Obito's offense with his nunchucks. It isn't unstoppable.

But guess who has clones? Guess who can fool a Dragon Sage and EMS user with feints?

Guess whose clones explode, which can make Obito absorb explosive damage like Konan did?

Heck, he has exploding clones and one of the fastest ninjutsu and one the fastest jutsu molding speeds.

Itachi's a walking counter to Obito's Kamui.

The author wouldn't even have to create new jutsu out of nowehere for Itachi to look great...

5. Tobi's only other primary jutsu was Izanagi

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Who was that ninja with the jutsu specifically designed to trounce Izanagi?

Conclusion
So, why didn't the terminally ill teenager with deteriorating eyesight that was waltzing around the enemy base as a known double-agent for nearly a decade, who was actively keeping the Big Bad from attacking Konoha again, kill the Big Bad? Because the Big Bad was hiding in the shadows. He was hiding from Itachi so effectively that even the readers didn't know he existed until the 300 chapters in.


Tobi actually can attack and defend at the same time, like he did multiple times against Naruto Bee, Kakashi and Gai like here:

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Lel obviously gai countered Obito's taijutsu since gai is an expert at Tai. :rolleyes:


Exploding clones is a variant of Shadow clone. Even Diedara used it. lol.

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try again bud.


Tobi has an obvious counter to Kamui? Is that so? Care to elaborate? :rolleyes: 100% stupidest thing I've heard.


Izanagi does fails since Obito knows was himself, and was pretending to be madara in hopes of terrorizing the shinobi villages and start a war.




Simply put, there's nothing Itachi can do against a superior opponent like Obito.



Susano + Yata Mirror + Totsuka blade? Fail against Kamui :cool:

Izanagi ? Doesn't even work :cool:

Amaterasu? Tanked. :cool:

Tsukuyomi? Negged just as 3T Sasuke did. :cool:

+ Didn't Itachi have to use Sasuke as bait to kill Obito because he couldn't do it 1v1? :|




To conclude;


One MS obito > Itachi.



One sec, why dafuq aren't we comparing TWO MS Obito with Itachi, who's wielding TWO MS's with weapons that do not even belong to him.

Oh that's right... Two MS Obito shitstomps and lol-diffs Itachi.
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like c'mon brah, this is the dude that needed to beg Obito to help him kill his own clan. f***. This comparison is a disgrace to Lord Obito. :|

In the end One MS Obito > Dual MS + Yata Mirror + Totsuka blade Itachi.


Obito doesn't even need Mokuton for this.

As obito, and kishimoto's hand stated:

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Fanfic: Obito ksn't stronger that Itachi
 

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Lol Itachi has the best analytical skills of any person in the series ( Kakashi a close second or tie).

In a fight with Itachi it's not about power. Period.
 

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Lol Itachi has the best analytical skills of any person in the series ( Kakashi a close second or tie).

In a fight with Itachi it's not about power. Period.

Yeah.. no. Lol

Itachi may be good with analysis, but nothing in his arsenal stops his downfall. He has no way of confirming when Obito is phasing, and also there's nothing he can do against kamui except for yata mirror, which he can't summon for too long due to quick chakra depletion. PS Susano rofl stomps.​
 

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Lol Itachi has the best analytical skills of any person in the series ( Kakashi a close second or tie).

In a fight with Itachi it's not about power. Period.
so what shikamaru has even better analytical skills than itachi and all the analysis in the world didnt help him think of a way to stop a jubidama even when he had an army helping him.
 

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Lord Sasuke negs them both
 

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i think you need glasses, you can't use kamui both offensive and defensive. you can clearly see that obito isn't touching anything in your pic. try again :cool:
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Random much? I don't remember stating Obito can use both sides of kamui simultaneously. Try again m8. Your fail insults just show that your jimmies have been rustled. :)
 

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Yeah.. no. Lol

Itachi may be good with analysis, but nothing in his arsenal stops his downfall. He has no way of confirming when Obito is phasing, and also there's nothing he can do against kamui except for yata mirror. PS Susano rofl stomps​

thats not true the kamui sucking in naruto like many other things is inconsistent. obito attempts to warp people on more than one occasion while either phasing through the ground or using kamui itself whilst teleporting. even more evidence to support that its inconsistent is when obito is holding the giant shurikens and phases through the wall kakashi makes. if he can hold those shurikens while phasing why cant he grab someone and phase at the same time.
 

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Yeah.. no. Lol

Itachi may be good with analysis, but nothing in his arsenal stops his downfall. He has no way of confirming when Obito is phasing, and also there's nothing he can do against kamui except for yata mirror, which he can't summon for too long due to quick chakra depletion. PS Susano rofl stomps.​
You just put a sick Itachi against an Obito with Rikudo chakra and a PS. Lmfao not even replying to you anymore. It would only make sense to put him against Obito as Tobi as that's when they were both alive and was the only possible way for them even fight.
so what shikamaru has even better analytical skills than itachi and all the analysis in the world didnt help him think of a way to stop a jubidama even when he had an army helping him.

Skikamaru is good with prep time. Yes they both have amazing analytical skills but Itachi is able to do what Skikamaru does in the heat of battle. Do you understand my point?
 

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thats not true the kamui sucking in naruto like many other things is inconsistent. obito attempts to warp people on more than one occasion while either phasing through the ground or using kamui itself whilst teleporting. even more evidence to support that its inconsistent is when obito is holding the giant shurikens and phases through the wall kakashi makes. if he can hold those shurikens while phasing why cant he grab someone and phase at the same time.

The kamui i was referring to was kakashi's kamui. Anyways, the teleporting someone else kamui, there is a link between the shurikens, his chakra and his dimension, hence why he was able to summon them in the first place. But another person is an individual with a different chakra is an entirely different thing.​
 

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You just put a sick Itachi against an Obito with Rikudo chakra and a PS. Lmfao not even replying to you anymore. It would only make sense to put him against Obito as Tobi as that's when they were both alive and was the only possible way for them even fight.


Skikamaru is good with prep time. Yes they both have amazing analytical skills but Itachi is able to do what Skikamaru does in the heat of battle. Do you understand my point?

shikamaru makes his aalysis IN BATTLE not after or before. and prep time and analysis for ten years didnt help konan one bit now did it? dont act like her plan wasnt good because if that was itachi in those bombs he would have died immediately.
 

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sorry for double post but he phases parts of his body so he could hold the shuriken because his hands were in this dimension while his body was in kamui dimension. to kamui someone and phase is impossible at the same time - he could be touching them but it would simply be a touch

im not saying phase and warp somone (which he should be able to do with dms) but im saying in that specific moment why wasnt he allowed to grab narutos face and then warp him when gai was no longer touching him?
 

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You just put a sick Itachi against an Obito with Rikudo chakra and a PS. Lmfao not even replying to you anymore. It would only make sense to put him against Obito as Tobi as that's when they were both alive and was the only possible way for them even fight.


Skikamaru is good with prep time. Yes they both have amazing analytical skills but Itachi is able to do what Skikamaru does in the heat of battle. Do you understand my point?

I didn't even say Itachi was ill, and that was not the idea I had in mind when making this thread. Yes, I'm comparing a healthy Itachi with Dual MS and weapons that don't even belong to him to Obito (who doesn't have rikudo chakra lol u mad brah, where did he get rikudo chakra? with his two MS. You fail faptards have to compare itachi against Obito with only one eye. Tbh that just shows how pathetically weak Itachi is since you have to partially blind his opponent for him to have a chance, which he still fails at.

Idc whether you reply or not, just countering your moronic excuses for Itachi.​
 

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thats not true the kamui sucking in naruto like many other things is inconsistent. obito attempts to warp people on more than one occasion while either phasing through the ground or using kamui itself whilst teleporting. even more evidence to support that its inconsistent is when obito is holding the giant shurikens and phases through the wall kakashi makes. if he can hold those shurikens while phasing why cant he grab someone and phase at the same time.

When he "phases" he is actually switching between dimensions. So he's just took the shuriken to the other dimension with him which is why he was able to hold them.
 

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When he "phases" he is actually switching between dimensions. So he's just took the shuriken to the other dimension with him which is why he was able to hold them.

yeah and im saying why was he able to take the shurikens that are not a part of his body with him but not narutos face when he grabbed it.
 
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