False existence and living Lies !!!

[minamoto]

Let's assume this is the case. How do you connect your thoughts (manga's shocking ending) to "The Last" (Naruto Project New Era)?

i do not know dude.... but the movie seemed about moon fall and toneri....and my shocking ending theory is all about tobidra and spiral zetsu....

-the movie's plot will happen after 2 years from the ending of Manga...i dont think its related to tobidara.....in my opinion..if the movies's plot was very necessary kishimoto would have released a manga version of it so that all readers read it at the same time....

-for me the movie is kind of filler although kishimoto has some controll over it...the movie will just be very informative and give us explanations about the story and background of kaguya..otsutsuki clan...the chakra fruit and juubi.....but it will not have a plot that is related directly to the manga...

-naruto movie will be also introduction for part 3


-to be honest i want madara/tobidara to die in part 2....Madara ha accomplished anything...if he gets revealed to be Tobi then it will be a glorious victory to Naruto Manga...Madara then can die in peace..no need for him to comeback in part 3....

 

[Draxus]

i do not know dude.... but the movie seemed about moon fall and toneri....and my shocking ending theory is all about tobidra and spiral zetsu....

-the movie's plot will happen after 2 years from the ending of Manga...i dont think its related to tobidara.....in my opinion..if the movies's plot was very necessary kishimoto would have released a manga version of it so that all readers read it at the same time....

-for me the movie is kind of filler although kishimoto has some controll over it...the movie will just be very informative and give us explanations about the story and background of kaguya..otsutsuki clan...the chakra fruit and juubi.....but it will not have a plot that is related directly to the manga...

-naruto movie will be also introduction for part 3


-to be honest i want madara/tobidara to die in part 2....Madara ha accomplished anything...if he gets revealed to be Tobi then it will be a glorious victory to Naruto Manga...Madara then can die in peace..no need for him to comeback in part 3....

yo... yo... WHAT!?

 

[Eye of the Beholder]

ive always asked myself, what if we all are living under a genjutsu?

And what if some are not under it ?!

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

What's next? Hashirama is secretly Obito too? Next thing you know, there will be a "Tobirama" running around, which is just ludicrous.

 

[Mr Hiru]

i do not know dude.... but the movie seemed about moon fall and toneri....and my shocking ending theory is all about tobidra and spiral zetsu....

-the movie's plot will happen after 2 years from the ending of Manga...i dont think its related to tobidara.....in my opinion..if the movies's plot was very necessary kishimoto would have released a manga version of it so that all readers read it at the same time....

-for me the movie is kind of filler although kishimoto has some controll over it...the movie will just be very informative and give us explanations about the story and background of kaguya..otsutsuki clan...the chakra fruit and juubi.....but it will not have a plot that is related directly to the manga...

-naruto movie will be also introduction for part 3


-to be honest i want madara/tobidara to die in part 2....Madara ha accomplished anything...if he gets revealed to be Tobi then it will be a glorious victory to Naruto Manga...Madara then can die in peace..no need for him to comeback in part 3....

I see... but isn't that kinda strange?

If (under your perception) the end of the manga has the shocking ending related to Tobi (the one who creates living lies)/Itachi (the one who see through lies), I believe these two characters SHOULD play a major role in The Last. If not, then the final apparition of Tobidara in the end of the manga wouldn't make any sense.

This kind of endings normally would suggest a part 3, but it has been already confirmed that there won't be part 3... the end of the manga is in November 10th. And a movie wouldn't be enough to cover "the comeback of Tobidara" (Harry Potter took eight movies to get rid of a villain as epic as Voldemort).

Also, there is another thing... the fact that The Last is not a filler. It has been confirmed that this timeskip is canon (but as you said, I also believe the movie will explain what has not been totally clearified in the manga).

...so, I'd like for you to clearify me... what would be the purpose of Tobidara as the shocking revelation?

 

[Byron123]

You know Tobidara as of now literally makes no sense plot wise. At first it was an extremely far-fetched idea but now.... Madara had already reached the peak of his power and the success of his plan by becoming Bijuu Jin and by casting the IT. Now that he's no longer around what would be his purpose exactly? To try to do everything all over again, it's repetitive. Also, you can't evven suggest that Madara knew everything and fell on purpose for Kaguya's tricks. Why would anyone give up on his current success just to chase after it afterwards?

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

ive always asked myself, what if we all are living under a genjutsu?

o but most people, including you are.. the mind control is big in this world.. people even worship a non existent mythological entity named mind control (gubernare mente)

 

[minamoto]

I see... but isn't that kinda strange?

If (under your perception) the end of the manga has the shocking ending related to Tobi (the one who creates living lies)/Itachi (the one who see through lies), I believe these two characters SHOULD play a major role in The Last. If not, then the final apparition of Tobidara in the end of the manga wouldn't make any sense.

This kind of endings normally would suggest a part 3, but it has been already confirmed that there won't be part 3... the end of the manga is in November 10th. And a movie wouldn't be enough to cover "the comeback of Tobidara" (Harry Potter took eight movies to get rid of a villain as epic as Voldemort).

Also, there is another thing... the fact that The Last is not a filler. It has been confirmed that this timeskip is canon (but as you said, I also believe the movie will explain what has not been totally clearified in the manga).

...so, I'd like for you to clearify me... what would be the purpose of Tobidara as the shocking revelation?

-true Heroes always die....itachi died ...but befor he dies, he warned Sasuke not to fall into reality's illusion....itachi once told sasuke that thinking Madara is dead and that madara is not tobi could end up being all a mere illusion in the same way he thought itachi was a bad guy.....so when tobidara emerge he will remind sasuke of itachi's words...tobidara will tell sasuke that despite sasuke having strong eyes now but he could never see through reality's deception....ITACHI'S WORDS WILL HAVE BIG INFLUENCE NOT ONLY IN THE END BUT IN THE WHOLE NARUTO MANGA...


-the death of rikudo Madara was never confirmed by kishi himself...kishimoto just showed us panels of a madara's body lying on the ground agoning...but kishi never put big bold writing in the end of chapter saying that madara died.....

-there ramain just 2 chapters 44 pages will suffice to reveal Tobidara...but its not enough to creat a whole tobidara plot....its like tobidara will emerge and die quick wish is a bull$hit idea from kishi......


-im not idiot i have so many proves and guaranties that Madaraw as the true masked man tobi...

 

[minamoto]

You know Tobidara as of now literally makes no sense plot wise. At first it was an extremely far-fetched idea but now.... Madara had already reached the peak of his power and the success of his plan by becoming Bijuu Jin and by casting the IT. Now that he's no longer around what would be his purpose exactly? To try to do everything all over again, it's repetitive. Also, you can't evven suggest that Madara knew everything and fell on purpose for Kaguya's tricks. Why would anyone give up on his current success just to chase after it afterwards?

plz byron stop trolling with the same comment

 

[Mr Hiru]

-true Heroes always die....itachi died ...but befor he dies, he warned Sasuke not to fall into reality's illusion....itachi once told sasuke that thinking Madara is dead and that madara is not tobi could end up being all a mere illusion in the same way he thought itachi was a bad guy.....so when tobidara emerge he will remind sasuke of itachi's words...tobidara will tell sasuke that despite sasuke having strong eyes now but he could never see through reality's deception....ITACHI'S WORDS WILL HAVE BIG INFLUENCE NOT ONLY IN THE END BUT IN THE WHOLE NARUTO MANGA...

Indeed, it did. Sasuke saw his brother inside Naruto in the end of his battle. He had to see through the illusion to realize about his own mistake.

-the death of rikudo Madara was never confirmed by kishi himself...kishimoto just showed us panels of a madara's body lying on the ground agoning...but kishi never put big bold writing in the end of chapter saying that madara died.....

Point taken. I also realized this, Kishimoto usually put big emphasis on character deaths with the big capital bold fonts. This is most likely a suggestion that Madara is not dead yet, but in agony.

-there ramain just 2 chapters 44 pages will suffice to reveal Tobidara...but its not enough to creat a whole tobidara plot....its like tobidara will emerge and die quick wish is a bull$hit idea from kishi......


-im not idiot i have so many proves and guaranties that Madaraw as the true masked man tobi...

I guess it could mean that Madara will be saying his last words. But the correlation to Tobi's mask... I don't know man. It's too unlikely, there is no motive at all for this...

That's why I'm asking you. Can you guess a motive for Madara to reveal his relation to Tobi's mask?

 

[minamoto]

Indeed, it did. Sasuke saw his brother inside Naruto in the end of his battle. He had to see through the illusion to realize about his own mistake.



Point taken. I also realized this, Kishimoto usually put big emphasis on character deaths with the big capital bold fonts. This is most likely a suggestion that Madara is not dead yet, but in agony.



I guess it could mean that Madara will be saying his last words. But the correlation to Tobi's mask... I don't know man. It's too unlikely, there is no motive at all for this...

That's why I'm asking you. Can you guess a motive for Madara to reveal his relation to Tobi's mask?

-dude chapter 599 obito was just stealing the glory of the true masked man Madara....so in chapter 699 and 700...tobidara will come back to restore his stolen glory from obito....TOBIDARA WILL DECLARE HIMSELF TO BE THE FINALL VILAIN!!!

dude tobi being Madara will redeem both of sasuke and obito's characters....

-1 obito : many blamed kishi and naruto for forgiving obito's character ..but in truth obito wasn't the one who cauzed naruto's parents death...obito wasn't the one who slaughtred the uchiha can...he wasn't the one who was responsible for the bloody mist incidents...these were all committed by tobidara when he was taking full controll of obito's body..

2-sasuke : sasuke will finally realize that tobi was indeed madara and that itachi was right...Madara was behind 9 tails attack and uchiha massacre and not obito...sasuke will realize his mistakes


all sasuke fans , itachi fans , kisame fans and even obito fans should pray that tobidara reveals come true cuz its the only reveal that wil render their characters epic...

-WITH TOBIDARA REVEAL EVERTHING THAT DIDNT MAKE SENSE WILL FINALY MAKE SENSE !!

 

[HyugaName]

You're always crying about "What if I put you on the ignore list" SO BE IT! Crap put mostly everyone on this site on the ignore list, people probably do....... crap. Whining and what not about something like that.

 

[Mr Hiru]

-dude chapter 599 obito was just stealing the glory of the true masked man Madara....so in chapter 699 and 700...tobidara will come back to restore his stolen glory from obito....TOBIDARA WILL DECLARE HIMSELF TO BE THE FINALL VILAIN!!!

dude tobi being Madara will redeem both of sasuke and obito's characters....

-1 obito : many blamed kishi and naruto for forgiving obito's character ..but in truth obito wasn't the one who cauzed naruto's parents death...obito wasn't the one who slaughtred the uchiha can...he wasn't the one who was responsible for the bloody mist incidents...these were all committed by tobidara when he was taking full controll of obito's body..

2-sasuke : sasuke will finally realize that tobi was indeed madara and that itachi was right...Madara was behind 9 tails attack and uchiha massacre and not obito...sasuke will realize his mistakes


all sasuke fans , itachi fans , kisame fans and even obito fans should pray that tobidara reveals come true cuz its the only reveal that wil render their characters epic...

-WITH TOBIDARA REVEAL EVERTHING THAT DIDNT MAKE SENSE WILL FINALY MAKE SENSE !!

But Sasuke already know the setup of the plot. I mean, wasn't BZ the one who gave the news to both Naruto and Sasuke when they were fighting Kaguya?

 

[minamoto]

you're always crying about "what if i put you on the ignore list" so be it! Crap put mostly everyone on this site on the ignore list, people probably do....... Crap. Whining and what not about something like that.

i will put you in the ignore list

 

[minamoto]

But Sasuke already know the setup of the plot. I mean, wasn't BZ the one who gave the news to both Naruto and Sasuke when they were fighting Kaguya?

i always say wait!!...be patient ..till the end of manga....again plz wait...black zetsu might not be the one who was pulling the strings...
when tobidara took off his mask to kisame for second time....kisame undestood that it was him who was planning everything and pulling the strings from the shadows....


-why was even tobidara trusting kisame exactly?...and what does kisame being trust worthy and not betraying Tobi means?...think about it??....yes !! thats it...Tobidara might have suspected black zetsu loyalty...thats why he trusted kisame more...

-the oppositte of black zetsu is defintly kisame...black zetsu betrayed Madara but Kisame didn't....

-Mr Hiru...dont you dare tell me Kisame met and saw obito....you know it well deep in the heart that kisame is a skilled ninja...he ain't dumb to call tobi madara TWICE!!....if kisame saw obito then kishimoto wouldve explained us how obito fooled kisame in the Tobito flashbacks.....just think about it?...why would kishi not explain us how obito slaughtred the uchiha clan...and how come he knows danzo and how he controlled yagura and how he fooled itachi?...ITS BECUZ OBITO DONT REMEMBER $HIT SINCE HE WAS FULLY CONTROLLED BY TOBIDARA!!!

 

[Mr Hiru]

i always say wait!!...be patient ..till the end of manga....again plz wait...black zetsu might not be the one who was pulling the strings...
when tobidara took off his mask to kisame for second time....kisame undestood that it was him who was planning everything and pulling the strings from the shadows....


-why was even tobidara trusting kisame exactly?...and what does kisame being trust worthy and not betraying Tobi means?...think about it??....yes !! thats it...Tobidara might have suspected black zetsu loyalty...thats why he trusted kisame more...

-the oppositte of black zetsu is defintly kisame...black zetsu betrayed Madara but Kisame didn't....

-Mr Hiru...dont you dare tell me Kisame met and saw obito....you know it well deep in the heart that kisame is a skilled ninja...he ain't dumb to call tobi madara TWICE!!....if kisame saw obito then kishimoto wouldve explained us how obito fooled kisame in the Tobito flashbacks.....just think about it?...why would kishi not explain us how obito slaughtred the uchiha clan...and how come he knows danzo and how he controlled yagura and how he fooled itachi?...ITS BECUZ OBITO DONT REMEMBER $HIT SINCE HE WAS FULLY CONTROLLED BY TOBIDARA!!!

If you say so, I'll wait. We'll see if your guesses are correct.

 

[minamoto]

If you say so, I'll wait. We'll see if your guesses are correct.

damnn bro...tomorow's chapters will be very decisive..something that ive been believing in and waiting for 4 years will finally get revealed...just can't describe you the feelings

 

[KLhunter]

This thread make me laugh... hee hee... even just had left 1 or 2 more chapter/episode before ENDED you still believe got another final vilain and also he will dead in the same chapter/episode just after intro himself..

I believe still got 2 episode left..
1st 699, Episode most likely more towards releasing & free all Shinobi from IT..
2nd & last 700, Episode should be to acknowledge Naruto or even Sasuke as well by Shinobi world...

 

[Darkboy85]

699 => As said above, most likely wrapping up the whole IT situation

700 => According to the massive spoilers we've been getting, it's most likely going to be an epilogue.

Then, the movie will supposedly fill in the gap between 699 and 700 (from what I've seen/heard).

 

[minamoto]

699 => As said above, most likely wrapping up the whole IT situation

700 => According to the massive spoilers we've been getting, it's most likely going to be an epilogue.

Then, the movie will supposedly fill in the gap between 699 and 700 (from what I've seen/heard).

just one day remaining : EITHER EPIC FAIL OR GLORIOUS VICROTY !!