What I do not get is why you keep hammering on that "you were right" despite the fact that everything that happened up to this point has been according to one of the possible scenarios I described and which you were adamantly against. Even more so considering we almost had in every chapter of the past month a reference that if they would keep doing what they were doing, it would be war. This is something I also specifically explained that a rescue mission on itself is a declaration of war. The thing you are going on about is that it wasn't FT's intention to start a war, but that was never relevant to begin with as it's not their intentions that were important, but the consequences of their actions. Whether they had the intention of starting a war or not would have made no difference whatsoever as long as they preformed the exact same actions.
Also they invaded a hostile nation without authorization to achieve a certain objective. That that objective was a rescue mission, is again besides the point as it doesn't change anything. Having Makarov being held hostage would have made FT's position even more disadvantageous than it already was, so a mission to save him can be considered a preemptive strike. Or what would have happened if they didn't? Zeref was planning to kill him, so he likely would have sent his corpse to FT to make Natsu furious, something he himself said. In the mean time Zeref would have time to prepare his army while FT would just be being busy trying to build up their guild again.
So this rescue mission not only can be considered to be the direct cause of the war, but also a preemptive strike of Fairy Tail which has given them some time to prepare, albeit not much. At this point this all is still very well going towards a war and this was what you originally were completely against when you started going on about a rescue mission. So I really don't get why you keep going on about how you were right despite the fact you completely missed the point.
I think you need to cool off with your "read or reread" talk.
How is his age relevant? have you ever read the manga? You would know Natsu was been beneath Laxus/Gildarts since the start. And get this through, in the start he was also a 400 yr old demon. Whether the power is sealed or not, fact remains, since the start it's been proven he is not above Gildarts/Laxus. Just because he was recently said to be an old demon does not mean he will shoot up in the power scale, he's background was revelead, that doesn't change his strength. It just means he will be stronger, in the future.
"Laxus got him by surprise"? Clearly you missed the panel where he cuts the sand wave apart with a lightning strike and Azeal sees him above. He understimated Laxus' ability, but he knew he was there. No surprise, aside from being scared as he expressed afterwards.
As for Natsu's power, you're arguments don't even add up. I mean "the thing with the bandages" what? what about the thing with the bandages? We know his arm acts up when near a Spriggan. Ok so does this make him a powerhouse? No. As for Dragon Force, I laugh. Natsu is not weak, i'm merely saying in terms of experience and overall power he is not yet near the S rankers.
I don't mean to insult you, I am just saying your post is illogical as it ignores several points in the manga.
Let me give you a example, how do you know Natsu hasn't surpassed Gildarts, maybe Laxus is still stronger than Natsu, but both of them have surpassed Gildarts.
Natsu was able to one shot a guy who Gildarts struggled against, so simply using only two attacks against one guy hardly proves that Natsu is still weaker than either of them.
And experience is a irrelevant issue, as Erza has more experience (against a amnesic Natsu) yet Natsu surpassed her, the same could be said for, and has beaten many people who are physically older than he is and more experienced than he is, most of Fairy Tail is physically older than him yet he is at a bare minimum top five.
As for Laxus saving them from a guy that over powered Natsu, I would like to point out that Natsu has been beaten by bad guys before and rescued by other characters (in some cases by weaker characters), for example the owl guy ate Natsu in the tower of heaven arc and he was saved by Gray, does this mean Gray is much stronger than Natsu.
And dragon force made Natsu strong enough to fight one of the Wizard Saints back during the Tower of Heaven arc, and he was much weaker back then so its a huge upgrade.
And Natsu has yet to go all out, for all we know under those bandages lies a incredible power.
Natsu was able to one shot a god in his base mode, so Dragon Force and Lightning Flame mode are vastly more powerful than they were before.
So three chapters and two attacks don't prove that Laxus is stronger than Natsu and don't prove Gildarts is stronger than Natsu either.
Lol this chapter was great, laxus was epic. I thought for sure that would obliterate ajeel but it seems not, perhaps cocky from him. Either way the springers seem strong af, I'm so pumped for the next chapter:hyper::hooray:
Also it seems END time is approaching, wonder if it was like a time seal on him?
On another note, wonder if Ezra step down for the master to be master again (always forgot how to spell his name, malchov? Lel)
I don't get why you think every post is a personal offense to you or even refers to you.
You weren't the only person I debated with over the issue.
You need to grow a thicker skin.
I don't mean to insult you, I am just saying your post is illogical as it ignores several points in the manga.
Let me give you a example, how do you know Natsu hasn't surpassed Gildarts, maybe Laxus is still stronger than Natsu, but both of them have surpassed Gildarts.
Natsu was able to one shot a guy who Gildarts struggled against, so simply using only two attacks against one guy hardly proves that Natsu is still weaker than either of them.
And experience is a irrelevant issue, as Erza has more experience (against a amnesic Natsu) yet Natsu surpassed her, the same could be said for, and has beaten many people who are physically older than he is and more experienced than he is, most of Fairy Tail is physically older than him yet he is at a bare minimum top five.
As for Laxus saving them from a guy that over powered Natsu, I would like to point out that Natsu has been beaten by bad guys before and rescued by other characters (in some cases by weaker characters), for example the owl guy ate Natsu in the tower of heaven arc and he was saved by Gray, does this mean Gray is much stronger than Natsu.
And dragon force made Natsu strong enough to fight one of the Wizard Saints back during the Tower of Heaven arc, and he was much weaker back then so its a huge upgrade.
And Natsu has yet to go all out, for all we know under those bandages lies a incredible power.
Natsu was able to one shot a god in his base mode, so Dragon Force and Lightning Flame mode are vastly more powerful than they were before.
So three chapters and two attacks don't prove that Laxus is stronger than Natsu and don't prove Gildarts is stronger than Natsu either.
Surely, all of this is complete conjecture at this stage?
We haven't actually seen any of the FT characters in a serious battle since the timeskip. Just a few skirmishes here and there.
Until we actually see some proper 1v1 battles, that all conclude with the enemy being beaten (or the FT character, probably unlikely though), we cant say for sure who is stronger than who. Gildarts may very well be waaaay stronger than everyone, who can say? Everyone has had a time skip just the same and until Hiro confirms strengths by illustrating it in a proper battle, we are all just clutching at straws when we say - "x must be stronger than y"
Sooo... Im agreeing with most. The powerscaling is horrible!!!!!
Natsu melted a whole arena due to his head.. He did the fire roar which was big af!!! like.. that was the natsu we got that was OP and he wasnt even trying. now that natsu is slightly trying hes much weaker when he wasnt? Lol lordtt... Wendy needs some new shit cause its tiring see her use weak stuff. Its horrible. She needs to stay in DF and even then needs something more. Im legit happy with lucy and gray. I used to HATE gray and think he was one of the weakest ones. Im glad i can now say hes top tier.
as for laxus.. meh... Its getting kinda repetitive how hes introduced.. Hades Arc, Tartous Arc, now this arc. He comes in the same way.. like damn. Give somebody else that spot light.. Another thing I always noticed, how come evergreen dont use her stone move.. like that was legit one of the most op magics in FT.. Laxus tribe was on par with FT top tiers but they are only shown as laxus fangirls and nothing more. Its sad.
Last but not least #LordGajeel ... Iron Shadow is finna rekt a spriggin. U_U
I didn't take it as a personal offense, then I can start saying likewise that you take every post that quotes you as a personal offense. In fact the reason why I made this post was because you still seemed to be taking this personally as why else did you now for the 2nd or 3rd time again go on about how you were supposed to be right despite that what you said absolutely does not have any kind of value whatsoever? You originally made that comment because everyone was going on about "war war war war" and you did not believe there would be a war and that they would just go on a rescue mission, on which in return I replied that there is no difference as a rescue mission would be pretty much a declaration of war. I also provided several scenario's as how things could unfold, one of which was overall seen correct up to the latest chapter, but you contested all of it.
So the guy who missed the point the most, is the one who finds it necessary to repetitively say he was right the most. Well yeah then I'm going to make a comment about it considering the story has been going directly to an all-out war for a while now and the guy who refused to believe that just goes on about how right he supposedly was. If you would have just dropped it, I wouldn't have bothered with it, but if you find it necessary to emphasis several times that you were right about something that doesn't matter, then I'm going to remind you as how much you actually missed the point and how obstinate you were in accepting that.
Considering you start disliking posts, I suggest you take your own advice and grow a thicker skin as it's kinda joke to be making such comments while preforming such contradictory actions.
Nice Chapter Cover. I am cherishing the thought that Mirajane has featured in the chapter cover page, the chapter in which Laxus made an appearance. Was that really a coincidence?. We can see the entire Strauss family in the cover page. Mirajane is relaxing and Elfman is playing with her sister. And we can also see warren who is fancying over Lisanna(?). And a bear out of nowwhere in the middle of the pool. Good detailed chapter cover.
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Starting right at where we left off in the last chapter, the progression of the plot in this chapter is very good. We actually saw Natsu did something against one of the Spriggan 12, Ajeel Rommul, even if it is just minor. Good to see it made some impact on Ajeel with which he responded it's been years since he felt a punch like that and became so enthusiastic to want more of that. Ajeel's manipulation of sand is really good. His sand magic can vaporize moisture it touches. Pretty good magic if you ask me. Witnessing Natsu and Co. fighting back Ajeel, it made Makarov finally decides to start fighting back.
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Good to see Makarov's Giant Magic again. He sheathed his family completely in his arms to protect them from the Sand Magic that is about to harm them. Makarov's determination to protect his family from Ajeel even at the cost of his life is the best part of this chapter. Did it reminded you of anything?.
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The heart of Makarov hadn't changed a bit.
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Now the big appearance in this chapter is Laxus.
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Seriously Mashima?. Enough with this Nostalgia factor. I thought you talked about nostalgia for only one or two chapters but not in every chapter. This is superb. So many references lately. Talking about Laxus, like Caliburn and several others in tumblr said, Laxus now looks more of an young person than in his previous look. His hair style is changed too. Seriously this Laxus is no way different from the Badass Laxus we used to see before timeskip.
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We also saw the Raijinshuu along with Laxus but there isn't much of a change in their appearance by the looks of it. A Custom Built-Ship for Dragon Slayers?. I bet Blue Pegasus made that for Laxus alone. And then Mest transports every one to the ship. Good to see Laxus caring attitude again and Natsu as usual asking Laxus to fight him. Some things never change....smh. And then Laxus launched a large scale attack on Ajeel while they started departing from there. The attack looks powerful but at the end we saw it was easily stopped by the wizard king, August. August saying "I would grieve at the loss of any companion" is the best dialogue in this chapter along with that dialogue Laxus said which was really funny. This chapter ended with Zeref watching everything till now from the place where he was standing in his empire and all of the FT members departing from there.
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Final Verdict - Overall an above average chapter with good pacing in the story line & well handling of all of the Spriggans and after timeskip characters that were introduced till now like Natsu, Gray, Laxus, Erza, Wendy etc.,
Regarding next chapter....It was titled "Fight the Power". I am honestly not sure what it is going to be. It is hard to guess by that title or it might be Natsu challenging Laxus which I highly doubt. Well, this is all this time. Next time in Fairy Tail Z
Miscellaneous
Regarding Ajeel/Ajir/Azir and his magic. We all knew from where Mashima inspires a lot for his manga. It is from games. In League of Legends game, there is a character named Azir, the emperor of the Sands. The very same title as Ajeel Rommul and even the nature of their magic i.e., sand manipulation is similar to that of Azir from LoL game. Credits to qdreww for pointing this out.
Nice Chapter Cover. I am cherishing the thought that Mirajane has featured in the chapter cover page, the chapter in which Laxus made an appearance. Was that really a coincidence?. We can see the entire Strauss family in the cover page. Mirajane is relaxing and Elfman is playing with her sister. And we can also see warren who is fancying over Lisanna(?). And a bear out of nowwhere in the middle of the pool. Good detailed chapter cover.
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Starting right at where we left off in the last chapter, the progression of the plot in this chapter is very good. We actually saw Natsu did something against one of the Spriggan 12, Ajeel Rommul, even if it is just minor. Good to see it made some impact on Ajeel with which he responded it's been years since he felt a punch like that and became so enthusiastic to want more of that. Ajeel's manipulation of sand is really good. His sand magic can vaporize moisture it touches. Pretty good magic if you ask me. Witnessing Natsu and Co. fighting back Ajeel, it made Makarov finally decides to start fighting back.
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Good to see Makarov's Giant Magic again. He sheathed his family completely in his arms to protect them from the Sand Magic that is about to harm them. Makarov's determination to protect his family from Ajeel even at the cost of his life is the best part of this chapter. Did it reminded you of anything?.
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The heart of Makarov hadn't changed a bit.
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Now the big appearance in this chapter is Laxus.
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Seriously Mashima?. Enough with this Nostalgia factor. I thought you talked about nostalgia for only one or two chapters but not in every chapter. This is superb. So many references lately. Talking about Laxus, like Caliburn and several others in tumblr said, Laxus now looks more of an young person than in his previous look. His hair style is changed too. Seriously this Laxus is no way different from the Badass Laxus we used to see before timeskip.
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We also saw the Raijinshuu along with Laxus but there isn't much of a change in their appearance by the looks of it. A Custom Built-Ship for Dragon Slayers?. I bet Blue Pegasus made that for Laxus alone. And then Mest transports every one to the ship. Good to see Laxus caring attitude again and Natsu as usual asking Laxus to fight him. Some things never change....smh. And then Laxus launched a large scale attack on Ajeel while they started departing from there. The attack looks powerful but at the end we saw it was easily stopped by the wizard king, August. August saying "I would grieve at the loss of any companion" is the best dialogue in this chapter along with that dialogue Laxus said which was really funny. This chapter ended with Zeref watching everything till now from the place where he was standing in his empire and all of the FT members departing from there.
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Final Verdict - Overall an above average chapter with good pacing in the story line & well handling of all of the Spriggans and after timeskip characters that were introduced till now like Natsu, Gray, Laxus, Erza, Wendy etc.,
Regarding next chapter....It was titled "Fight the Power". I am honestly not sure what it is going to be. It is hard to guess by that title or it might be Natsu challenging Laxus which I highly doubt. Well, this is all this time. Next time in Fairy Tail Z
Miscellaneous
Regarding Ajeel/Ajir/Azir and his magic. We all knew from where Mashima inspires a lot for his manga. It is from games. In League of Legends game, there is a character named Azir, the emperor of the Sands. The very same title as Ajeel Rommul and even the nature of their magic i.e., sand manipulation is similar to that of Azir from LoL game. Credits to qdreww for pointing this out.
Nice Chapter Cover. I am cherishing the thought that Mirajane has featured in the chapter cover page, the chapter in which Laxus made an appearance. Was that really a coincidence?. We can see the entire Strauss family in the cover page. Mirajane is relaxing and Elfman is playing with her sister. And we can also see warren who is fancying over Lisanna(?). And a bear out of nowwhere in the middle of the pool. Good detailed chapter cover.
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Starting right at where we left off in the last chapter, the progression of the plot in this chapter is very good. We actually saw Natsu did something against one of the Spriggan 12, Ajeel Rommul, even if it is just minor. Good to see it made some impact on Ajeel with which he responded it's been years since he felt a punch like that and became so enthusiastic to want more of that. Ajeel's manipulation of sand is really good. His sand magic can vaporize moisture it touches. Pretty good magic if you ask me. Witnessing Natsu and Co. fighting back Ajeel, it made Makarov finally decides to start fighting back.
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Good to see Makarov's Giant Magic again. He sheathed his family completely in his arms to protect them from the Sand Magic that is about to harm them. Makarov's determination to protect his family from Ajeel even at the cost of his life is the best part of this chapter. Did it reminded you of anything?.
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The heart of Makarov hadn't changed a bit.
You must be registered for see images
Now the big appearance in this chapter is Laxus.
You must be registered for see links
Seriously Mashima?. Enough with this Nostalgia factor. I thought you talked about nostalgia for only one or two chapters but not in every chapter. This is superb. So many references lately. Talking about Laxus, like Caliburn and several others in tumblr said, Laxus now looks more of an young person than in his previous look. His hair style is changed too. Seriously this Laxus is no way different from the Badass Laxus we used to see before timeskip.
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We also saw the Raijinshuu along with Laxus but there isn't much of a change in their appearance by the looks of it. A Custom Built-Ship for Dragon Slayers?. I bet Blue Pegasus made that for Laxus alone. And then Mest transports every one to the ship. Good to see Laxus caring attitude again and Natsu as usual asking Laxus to fight him. Some things never change....smh. And then Laxus launched a large scale attack on Ajeel while they started departing from there. The attack looks powerful but at the end we saw it was easily stopped by the wizard king, August. August saying "I would grieve at the loss of any companion" is the best dialogue in this chapter along with that dialogue Laxus said which was really funny. This chapter ended with Zeref watching everything till now from the place where he was standing in his empire and all of the FT members departing from there.
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Final Verdict - Overall an above average chapter with good pacing in the story line & well handling of all of the Spriggans and after timeskip characters that were introduced till now like Natsu, Gray, Laxus, Erza, Wendy etc.,
Regarding next chapter....It was titled "Fight the Power". I am honestly not sure what it is going to be. It is hard to guess by that title or it might be Natsu challenging Laxus which I highly doubt. Well, this is all this time. Next time in Fairy Tail Z
Miscellaneous
Regarding Ajeel/Ajir/Azir and his magic. We all knew from where Mashima inspires a lot for his manga. It is from games. In League of Legends game, there is a character named Azir, the emperor of the Sands. The very same title as Ajeel Rommul and even the nature of their magic i.e., sand manipulation is similar to that of Azir from LoL game. Credits to qdreww for pointing this out.
Yes it is the August month. Mashima yet to take any personal leave in the Magazine. The only breaks he took up so far are the ones that are given by WSM. Mashima is a gifted mangaka.
I expected that. They are the ones who went to pick Laxus and others. I personally want them to play a role even if it is minor in the upcoming arc, especially Lisanna.
Surely, all of this is complete conjecture at this stage?
We haven't actually seen any of the FT characters in a serious battle since the timeskip. Just a few skirmishes here and there.
Until we actually see some proper 1v1 battles, that all conclude with the enemy being beaten (or the FT character, probably unlikely though), we cant say for sure who is stronger than who. Gildarts may very well be waaaay stronger than everyone, who can say? Everyone has had a time skip just the same and until Hiro confirms strengths by illustrating it in a proper battle, we are all just clutching at straws when we say - "x must be stronger than y"
Yes it is the August month. Mashima yet to take any personal leave in the Magazine. The only breaks he took up so far are the ones that are given by WSM. Mashima is a gifted mangaka.
I expected that. They are the ones who went to pick Laxus and others. I personally want them to play a role even if it is minor in the upcoming arc, especially Lisanna.
Official WSM issue will release on Wednesday of every week but there is no issue next week because this week's issue is a double issue. So next issue will release on 19th of this month and not on 12th of this month like it should be. According to my calculations from my previous years experience we might get a chapter around saturday next week.
That's good news. I was a bit worried that this series was ending soon but it's great to hear otherwise. We just have to know how long.
OT: The guild is finally back! Laxus entrance was so badass and even making Azir feel uneasy for a second was awesome. The other Spriggan 12's strength will be epic to see. I'm really enjoying this arc a lot with the setup/reveals we've gotten so far. I can't wait for the next chapter.
One more thing I have forgotten to mention in that post of mine. With this chapter, the Fairy Tail Reformation arc has been completed. So with the next or so chapter the new arc will begin. I want a chapter like Fantasia once more. I hope the next chapter will be like that.
One more thing I have forgotten to mention in that post of mine. With this chapter, the Fairy Tail Reformation arc has been completed. So with the next or so chapter the new arc will begin. I want a chapter like Fantasia once more. I hope the next chapter will be like that.
