[Predictions] Fairy Tail Manga Chapter 439 Discussion and 440 Predictions

[Memento Mori]

i like the thought of them having a bunch of strong peoples like 10 holy saints, they are most likely the next 9dgs, or 7 kins
also i liked how mashima explained almost everything that was unanswered in tartarus arc and made it the setup of next arc, kinda cool
mest sure is one of the best characters in manga,even if we havent seen him in combat, he has proven his character worth many times now, even makarov trusts him so much that he shared the lh secret with him
this is probably gonna be the last arc before we get into acno and zeref
i feel like serena is a god of ishval, but its a girl's name ,so shouldnt it be goddess serena? either way ,i am pretty excited for next chapter,cant even predict whats gonna happen

I don't think God and Goddess matters much.No.I don't want this to be the last arc.We are just getting started up and we are about to explore the western continent.There are still North,south and East part of the earthland.

By the way what's the next chapters name?? God Arena or Sarena can't read it. Some one pls help!

God Serena

 

[Xāvî1]

I don't think God and Goddess matters much.No.I don't want this to be the last arc.We are just getting started up and we are about to explore the western continent.There are still North,south and East part of the earthland.

Exactly and not to mention zeref and acnologia

God Serena

Thanks

 

[fiend]

730 guilds fighting for a single cause, that's what I called Nationalism XD.
Jokes aside this clubbing probably was done so as to assimilate such a huge number easily so as to save time it will boil down to 10-15 main members for FT and others for other prominent guilds.
I want to see how Makarov is doing probably gone undercover.
Lumen Historie's mystery remains, Mavis might be still alive she sealed her "fairy" powers.
We'll learn more about Gods of Ishval, imho not connected to real Gods.

I don't think God and Goddess matters much.No.I don't want this to be the last arc.We are just getting started up and we are about to explore the western continent.There are still North,south and East part of the earthland.

God Serena

This isn't the last arc at least 1 more to go iirc after GMC arc Hiro said in an interview 3 more arcs more so counting Tartarus one more to go.
As for the North South and East Hiro is keeping it a mystery see we don't know anything about the north it's grey on the earthland map. Maybe FT part 2.:bdpf:

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Excellent chapter. 5/5

This can turn into one hell of arc, if Mashiro doesn't mess up with nakama/fan service this time. I thought Fairy Tail will soon be over, but it seems we have a lot of time before it's ending.

They can be very strong. First they have 230 guilds more than Ishgal. Than, they could have their own version of 10 Saints, they own version of Balam alliance, etc.

We finally see what's the reason for disbanding the FT. Plus, I hope this time we see other parts of the Ishgal as well.

That art style is nearly on Bleach level. [

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[BaseGodNaruto]

Loved how Lucy closed Natsu's eyes.XD.So it might be possibly Ivan who spread the information about the LH.>_>

I speculate we are going to get 500 vs 730 Guilds showdown.Just a random thought just like how we have the top ten wizard saints in the kingdom of fiore, will there be mages like that in the Kingdom of Albareth ?.



I think he has held captive or still trying to negotiate with them.


Big Question is where is Mavis we haven't seen her for a while because since Fairy is back you'd think she'd poof back up Im pretty damn sure it will be a war and Gildart and Laxus will come back making an Epic comeback maybe this time Laxus surpasses all of them

Laxus Fan Club just change the story to Laxus Searches for a Fairy xDDD

Oh yessss!.We are finally moving out of the kingdom of fiore.I liked how except the guilds in the Kingdom of Fiore all the countries/guilds in western part of the earthland formed their own country(Albareth).I will sure remember FT 7 year's timeskip as the tragic timeskip ever.It has done a lot bad than good to the FT.

Laxus Grandmother and mother are mentioned in mystery section.I hope Serena is linked to Dreyar lineage or she might be the god of Albareth Kingdom.

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Laxus grandmother interesting Porlyusica seemed like she loved Makarov id like they introduced his old spouse as someone crazy who made him a dwarf or something maybe she's in Albareth I doubt Lexus mother will be talked about probably dead. That'd be an interesting story to go by ivan thinking Lumen Historie can bring back his deceased wife but that would be too cliché and be too repetitive with Zeref storyline

They might do a Big Guild War vs Albareth Kingdom would be pretty epic maybe Zeref is behind Albareth remember when he said it wont be a 1 Sided War it will be an Annihilation

They need to bring back Edolas Jella I mean 8 Years has passed im sure he gotten his home world stable.
They need Laxus and Gildart to return if they are facing a might foe like this

 

[Kamui Sama]

pretty awesome chapter setting up alvarez, we might actually have some proper villains for a change :lol

I was slightly annoyed with how Natsu and them followed Erza and Mest..

 

[saw2097]

pretty awesome chapter setting up alvarez, we might actually have some proper villains for a change :lol

I was slightly annoyed with how Natsu and them followed Erza and Mest..

I suspect she would have told them anyway, Erza wasn't even slightly upset that they followed and she isn't the type to send her friends into battle without them knowing the stakes.

 

[milkydean]

I don't think God and Goddess matters much.No.I don't want this to be the last arc.We are just getting started up and we are about to explore the western continent.There are still North,south and East part of the earthland.



God Serena

not the last but 2nd last arc probably, north is all snow and we have seen the best mage(ur) from there,she was considered the strongest mage there
south and east are what we dont know about, maybe we will get to know about them in last arc
its still 2-3 years from its ending though which means 100-150 chapters away ,in hiro's case its 120-180 chapters given he can easily produce 2 chapters a week

 

[Kamui Sama]

I suspect she would have told them anyway, Erza wasn't even slightly upset that they followed and she isn't the type to send her friends into battle without them knowing the stakes.

yea, I found it unnecessary for this chapter though. It didn't add anything except a little bit of comedic relief that I didn't find particularly funny. I'm just nitpicking though :lol

 

[Soloist]

Wonderful a threat fairy tail shouldn't have a chance against I hope no bs happens

 

[saw2097]

I don't get why people think they will fight a war against a entire continent.


The former Guild Master went over there to prevent war, basically to send a do not mess with us message. Also the Magic Council would never back starting a war over one guy, they will not risk millions of lives over one man regardless of who it is.

Its more likely they will only fight the strongest guys over there, basically their equivalent of the Ten Wizard Sages and rescue the former Guild Master.

 

[xxsasukex]

I am still voting for laxus to comeback and be gm But yeah it was a good chapter

 

[Lord Snow]

Amazing chapter. Love that we are getting to see new continents in the FT world and Military he said? I look forward to seeing these guilds Makarov spoke of.

Also, I can't wait to see the results of Zeref and Acnologia battle.

 

[xxsasukex]

Amazing chapter. Love that we are getting to see new continents in the FT world and Military he said? I look forward to seeing these guilds Makarov spoke of. Also, I can't wait to see the results of Zeref and Acnologia battle.

Yeah and Acnologia kind remind me of someone but I just cant put a name to the face... He is a god slayer

 

[Caliburn]

I don't get why people think they will fight a war against a entire continent.


The former Guild Master went over there to prevent war, basically to send a do not mess with us message. Also the Magic Council would never back starting a war over one guy, they will not risk millions of lives over one man regardless of who it is.

Its more likely they will only fight the strongest guys over there, basically their equivalent of the Ten Wizard Sages and rescue the former Guild Master.

Even if they only fight the strongest guys, that doesn't mean you can't speak of a war. If the Alvarez Empire attacks Ishar again, then it's war. It doesn't matter if they only fight a few of them. What makes the Alvarez Empire so dreadful, is that they are a military nation and all those guilds form their army. This is very different from Ishgar where all the guilds are mostly independent and just from a loose federation monitored by the Magic Council. They simply have to follow a set of rules, but outside that they can pretty much do whatever they want. One of the best examples is the fight between Phantom Guild and Fairy Tail. Despite fights between guilds are prohibited, they still did it, but only the two of them. This had nothing to do with the other guilds. If you would attack one of the guilds of Alvarez, this would pretty much mean attacking all of them, thus war. It's also highly likely that their strongest mages are the ones who are high up the hierarchy of the Alvarez Empire and picking a fight with them is pretty much picking a fight with the ones they command, thus again war.

Though we still don't know much about the Alvarez Empire, so there are a large variety of possibilities. We do know however that they not too long ago did try to start war, that the things that stood in their way back then are gone and that the thing they want is something absurdly powerful enough to be used as a way to make them reconsider trying to go to war again. Makarov never backed down from any kind of fight, but now he didn't even consider it. To save his guild he pretty much threatened the AE with using LH, something he didn't dare to use even when Acnologia, Zeref and Tartaros were running amok. He also pretty much just told them that FT has LH.

So the only thing standing between them and a massive invasion is Makarov's half-hearted threat that he would use LH and there is no Magic Council at the moment to forbid the guilds from doing anything. So yeah war is very likely coming unless they can retaliate in advance if the AE has not given up on their goal yet.


On another note aren't Visca and Arzack from the Western continent? Also both of them use guns-magic, something pretty military based. I wonder if they might have fled from the AE or something?

 

[saw2097]

Even if they only fight the strongest guys, that doesn't mean you can't speak of a war. If the Alvarez Empire attacks Ishar again, then it's war. It doesn't matter if they only fight a few of them. What makes the Alvarez Empire so dreadful, is that they are a military nation and all those guilds form their army. This is very different from Ishgar where all the guilds are mostly independent and just from a loose federation monitored by the Magic Council. They simply have to follow a set of rules, but outside that they can pretty much do whatever they want. One of the best examples is the fight between Phantom Guild and Fairy Tail. Despite fights between guilds are prohibited, they still did it, but only the two of them. This had nothing to do with the other guilds. If you would attack one of the guilds of Alvarez, this would pretty much mean attacking all of them, thus war. It's also highly likely that their strongest mages are the ones who are high up the hierarchy of the Alvarez Empire and picking a fight with them is pretty much picking a fight with the ones they command, thus again war.

Though we still don't know much about the Alvarez Empire, so there are a large variety of possibilities. We do know however that they not too long ago did try to start war, that the things that stood in their way back then are gone and that the thing they want is something absurdly powerful enough to be used as a way to make them reconsider trying to go to war again. Makarov never backed down from any kind of fight, but now he didn't even consider it. To save his guild he pretty much threatened the AE with using LH, something he didn't dare to use even when Acnologia, Zeref and Tartaros were running amok. He also pretty much just told them that FT has LH.

So the only thing standing between them and a massive invasion is Makarov's half-hearted threat that he would use LH and there is no Magic Council at the moment to forbid the guilds from doing anything. So yeah war is very likely coming unless they can retaliate in advance if the AE has not given up on their goal yet.


On another note aren't Visca and Arzack from the Western continent? Also both of them use guns-magic, something pretty military based. I wonder if they might have fled from the AE or something?

Well, then lets call it a small scale war.

As its extremely unlikely that the Magic Council or any of the other Guild will help unless the invasion actually happens, and if the Magic Council finds out Fairy Tail attacked another country, they would probably force them to disband.

So I suspect that only the group that is in the basement right now will go to the Empire, this will be some sort of stealth operation (that will go completely wrong when they get there).

My reasoning is that they can't let the Magic Council find out about this and they can't risk provoking the Empire.

Also it wouldn't make sense for only this small group to find out what was going on if everyone was going (as it would make more sense for Erza to tell everyone at the same time what was going on rather than have a few find out and then later tell everyone anyway). So I suspect that only a small group goes with everyone else left behind.

And I doubt the invasion will happen, as it was noted by Mest as it would be a disaster if they did invade and that would defeat the purpose of going over in the first place.

 

[Caliburn]

Well, then lets call it a small scale war.

As its extremely unlikely that the Magic Council or any of the other Guild will help unless the invasion actually happens, and if the Magic Council finds out Fairy Tail attacked another country, they would probably force them to disband.

So I suspect that only the group that is in the basement right now will go to the Empire, this will be some sort of stealth operation (that will go completely wrong when they get there).

My reasoning is that they can't let the Magic Council find out about this and they can't risk provoking the Empire.

Also it wouldn't make sense for only this small group to find out what was going on if everyone was going (as it would make more sense for Erza to tell everyone at the same time what was going on rather than have a few find out and then later tell everyone anyway). So I suspect that only a small group goes with everyone else left behind.

And I doubt the invasion will happen, as it was noted by Mest as it would be a disaster if they did invade and that would defeat the purpose of going over in the first place.

What the Magic Council or other guilds do is really not that relevant. FT is currently not even an official guild, so saying they're going to disband a guild that's not even official is kinda a joke, even more so when it concerns FT who have the reputation of always causing problems and never gave a rat's ass about the council.

The AE is pretty much the most dangerous foe so far introduced in the series excluding Acnologia and Zeref. Makarov had no issues picking fights with other guilds, dragons and a horde of demons...but he trembled by the thought of the AE. They are after one of the biggest mysteries revolving around FT and once tried to claim it already. Makarov went apparently to them to hold them at bay with what is pretty much a bluff. There is really no point in introducing a foe like that and creating these specific circumstances if Makarov comes back and says "problem solved".

If they invade, it doesn't matter that their only target is FT, an invasion is an invasion. Other guilds and countries will be swallowed by it automatically. If they send a small group of people to save Makarov or whatever, unless they can deliver such a heavy blow to the AE that they can't retaliate anymore, it would be a rescue mission at best. Their target is LH, not Makarov or anyone else of FT specifically. So that Makarov would escape or whatever doesn't matter much as if they still want LH and they have the means, then they will attack regardless.

It's simple really there are only 3 possible scenario's:

1) They invade because they want LH.

2) FT attacks first, whether alone whether with assistance, striking such a hard blow that they can't recover anytime soon as otherwise they can just invade afterwards. Even if a small group of people would be able to sneak in and out of the AE without a single person noticing, well that's not going to influence their desire of getting LH or not. If they want it, they will still come unless something is blocking them.

3) They can convince somehow the AE to give up on LH. This one is very unlikely as that goes against the entire principle of telling a story. You just said that would be a disaster, that's an argument strongly in favor of an invasion as that's good for a story: disaster. Disaster and then overcome it, that's how you tell a story and not "they diplomatically solved everything, all Mest's efforts, all my fear were useless and ungrounded. Nothing will happen". Yeah no, if there isn't going to be invasion, then we are back again at scenario #2. There is no point in creating an enemy of that magnitude and not have any large-scale events taking place.

 

[Xāvî1]

Even if they only fight the strongest guys, that doesn't mean you can't speak of a war. If the Alvarez Empire attacks Ishar again, then it's war. It doesn't matter if they only fight a few of them. What makes the Alvarez Empire so dreadful, is that they are a military nation and all those guilds form their army. This is very different from Ishgar where all the guilds are mostly independent and just from a loose federation monitored by the Magic Council. They simply have to follow a set of rules, but outside that they can pretty much do whatever they want. One of the best examples is the fight between Phantom Guild and Fairy Tail. Despite fights between guilds are prohibited, they still did it, but only the two of them. This had nothing to do with the other guilds. If you would attack one of the guilds of Alvarez, this would pretty much mean attacking all of them, thus war. It's also highly likely that their strongest mages are the ones who are high up the hierarchy of the Alvarez Empire and picking a fight with them is pretty much picking a fight with the ones they command, thus again war.

Though we still don't know much about the Alvarez Empire, so there are a large variety of possibilities. We do know however that they not too long ago did try to start war, that the things that stood in their way back then are gone and that the thing they want is something absurdly powerful enough to be used as a way to make them reconsider trying to go to war again. Makarov never backed down from any kind of fight, but now he didn't even consider it. To save his guild he pretty much threatened the AE with using LH, something he didn't dare to use even when Acnologia, Zeref and Tartaros were running amok. He also pretty much just told them that FT has LH.

So the only thing standing between them and a massive invasion is Makarov's half-hearted threat that he would use LH and there is no Magic Council at the moment to forbid the guilds from doing anything. So yeah war is very likely coming unless they can retaliate in advance if the AE has not given up on their goal yet.

Well that sumps it up.

On another note aren't Visca and Arzack from the Western continent? Also both of them use guns-magic, something pretty military based. I wonder if they might have fled from the AE or something?

Visca i am sure she said she is not from Ishgar maybe from the western continent but reg Alzack i am not so sure.

What the Magic Council or other guilds do is really not that relevant. FT is currently not even an official guild, so saying they're going to disband a guild that's not even official is kinda a joke, even more so when it concerns FT who have the reputation of always causing problems and never gave a rat's ass about the council.

The AE is pretty much the most dangerous foe so far introduced in the series excluding Acnologia and Zeref. Makarov had no issues picking fights with other guilds, dragons and a horde of demons...but he trembled by the thought of the AE. They are after one of the biggest mysteries revolving around FT and once tried to claim it already. Makarov went apparently to them to hold them at bay with what is pretty much a bluff. There is really no point in introducing a foe like that and creating these specific circumstances if Makarov comes back and says "problem solved".

If they invade, it doesn't matter that their only target is FT, an invasion is an invasion. Other guilds and countries will be swallowed by it automatically. If they send a small group of people to save Makarov or whatever, unless they can deliver such a heavy blow to the AE that they can't retaliate anymore, it would be a rescue mission at best. Their target is LH, not Makarov or anyone else of FT specifically. So that Makarov would escape or whatever doesn't matter much as if they still want LH and they have the means, then they will attack regardless.

It's simple really there are only 3 possible scenario's:

1) They invade because they want LH.

2) FT attacks first, whether alone whether with assistance, striking such a hard blow that they can't recover anytime soon as otherwise they can just invade afterwards. Even if a small group of people would be able to sneak in and out of the AE without a single person noticing, well that's not going to influence their desire of getting LH or not. If they want it, they will still come unless something is blocking them.

3) They can convince somehow the AE to give up on LH. This one is very unlikely as that goes against the entire principle of telling a story. You just said that would be a disaster, that's an argument strongly in favor of an invasion as that's good for a story: disaster. Disaster and then overcome it, that's how you tell a story and not "they diplomatically solved everything, all Mest's efforts, all my fear were useless and ungrounded. Nothing will happen". Yeah no, if there isn't going to be invasion, then we are back again at scenario #2. There is no point in creating an enemy of that magnitude and not have any large-scale events taking place.

I think the second opinion of yours is most likely to take place. The way we have seen FT behave until now regarding their comrades, there is no way natsu and the others will rest at ease knowing makarov is held captive at the western continent. They will certainly attack or try out a daring rescue mission.

 

[Caliburn]

Well that sumps it up.




Visca i am sure she said she is not from Ishgar maybe from the western continent but reg Alzack i am not so sure.



I think the second opinion of yours is most likely to take place. The way we have seen FT behave until now regarding their comrades, there is no way natsu and the others will rest at ease knowing makarov is held captive at the western continent. They will certainly attack or try out a daring rescue mission.

Both Visca and Alzack are immigrants from the west. This has been confirmed all the way back at the start of the series. Later Hiro also made an omake from just before Visca joined FT where it was mentioned she arrived in Fiore and barely had anything, meaning she could have been on the run.

 

[Rezolution]

gramps sacrificing for his kids safety ;___; the feels.