[Predictions] Fairy Tail Manga 336 Discussion and 337 Predictions

[Cosmicstars]

Destroying the gate would actually change the Future because there would be no Gate to Travel back in time, meaning Present Rouge couldn't travel back in time, meaning something else will happen with the eclipse gate arc. Who knows I am just ready for this arc to end it was boring. Chapter was a 3/5 for me only because of Lucy and her outfit.

 

[Summer]

Finally the new arc is coming and we should get to see the big four now this is probly going to be the most amazing arc yet. We should all be in for a little suprise now.

 

[Frozenstein]

Destroying the gates in order to change both future and past is impossible.

Future Rogue is already here, which means that A) destroying the gates didn't work, B) Plothole

Let's say the current time is moment 0.

In moment 0 they destroy they gates to prevent Rogue traveling back in time from moment 1.

If they succeed in destroying the gates then the gates will be gone in the future as well.

But Rogue was already able to travel back in time to a moment (-1) before the broke the gates, meaning that it didn't work or that Hiro didn't think it through.

The fact that Rogue is already here, proves that this plan can't work.

So:

-1 Future Rouge comes from the future
0 Destroy the gates to prevent Rouge from time travel
1 Without gates Rouge manages to travel back to -1

either it is this or there must be alternate timelines or universes. Maybe Edolas comes back in play again. If not Hiro should read more into time travel.

not at all... look at this:

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FRogue and FLucy came from different timelines and futures, where the gate was intact. this means that there are at least 2 possible futures. in the first future Lucy didn't close the gate so the world got destroyed. in the second one she closed it, but Acnologia rules the world. so what happens if they destroy the gate before either can come true? neither the dragons can come through the gate, nor FRouge can come back from the future. this means only 1 thing, a new timeline starts what becomes the "present" and the others will either vanish or remain a different universe or timeline.

 

[Naruto KM V2]

I found to be a OK chapter. I wasn't not great but wasn't bad neither

 

[Kingu]

It's always the same Natsu wins every boss fight.

 

[Love Cook]

not at all... look at this:

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FRogue and FLucy came from different timelines and futures, where the gate was intact. this means that there are at least 2 possible futures. in the first future Lucy didn't close the gate so the world got destroyed. in the second one she closed it, but Acnologia rules the world. so what happens if they destroy the gate before either can come true? neither the dragons can come through the gate, nor FRouge can come back from the future. this means only 1 thing, a new timeline starts what becomes the "present" and the others will either vanish or remain a different universe or timeline.

Try reading before spreading non-sense, my last sentence was about alternate time lines.

It's a cycle, If you destroy something in the present, it will change for the future. But not only one future but for all futures. So if the gate is destroyed then Rougue should never been able to travel back.

All future time lines happen at the same time, when Lucy wrote her diary/book at that moment she already changed the past. Because that was the start of destroying the gates.

There can only be multiple time lines in the future but only 1 in the present.

 

[Shisui Senju]

All right so nastu is going to beat the dragons with friendship power ( which we don't know anything about)

Ultear won't die bc it's fairy tale people

Sooo... Happy endings for the win

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Dat Natsu.... I'm convinced Natsu has surpassed Erza now.

 

[Frozenstein]

Try reading before spreading non-sense, my last sentence was about alternate time lines.

It's a cycle, If you destroy something in the present, it will change for the future. But not only one future but for all futures. So if the gate is destroyed then Rougue should never been able to travel back.

All future time lines happen at the same time, when Lucy wrote her diary/book at that moment she already changed the past. Because that was the start of destroying the gates.

There can only be multiple time lines in the future but only 1 in the present.

it's not nonsense...

"when Lucy wrote her diary/book at that moment she already changed the past"

you can't change the past in the future. that's impossible. they can change the future after reading her diary, but only in the present and only IF they manage to read it... FLucy wrote the diary in a timeline where this whole time travel didn't happen. why didn't she said anything about this plan not working then? if it did happen in her timeline she should knew about it and it would be in the diary. try thinking before talking nonsense.

quite much the same goes for Rouge. he may pretty much just disappear in the next chapter...

 

[Love Cook]

it's not nonsense...

"when Lucy wrote her diary/book at that moment she already changed the past"

you can't change the past in the future. that's impossible. they can change the future after reading her diary, but only in the present and only IF they manage to read it... FLucy wrote the diary in a timeline where this whole time travel didn't happen. why didn't she said anything about this plan not working then? if it did happen in her timeline she should knew about it and it would be in the diary. try thinking before talking nonsense.

quite much the same goes for Rouge. he may pretty much just disappear in the next chapter...

Let's try something else.. You're not getting what I'm saying.

Answer me this:

* How is Rouge able to travel back from the future when the gates are being destroyed in the past ?
(this is what is happening this chapter)

this is perfectly fine to prevent someone coming from the future, but if the person from the future is already here then it didn't work/there are multiple ways to time travel.

Let's say FRouge comes from 2020, then how is he able to travel back to 2013 when the gates in his time are already destroyed at that time? Remember that this is the present.

Lets use a different metaphor. If DeLorean's are the only way to travel back in time as discovered in the future, then how is it possible to travel back in time if DoLorean's were never made ?

Future Rouge can't exist here because the gate is destroyed NOW there is no gate anymore in his future of Lucy's future, that would've given him no options to travel back to 2012 (just before the present) to try and kill Lucy.

Him being here is already a contradiction.

He could have never made his initial time jump, there is no gate to begin with.

But even if Hiro chooses to go along with this path then all memories and events should be erased from everybodies minds, the fight and destruction would never happen and Ul would come back to life. The story should continue again from right after the tournament. That is the only possible way for him to explain this. That the current chapters are a glimpse of a third future and not the real present.

 

[Ryuji]

This chapter was really rushed but meh, I hope this has triggered an even more exciting than this one.

 

[Frozenstein]

Let's try something else.. You're not getting what I'm saying.

Answer me this:

* How is Rouge able to travel back from the future when the gates are being destroyed in the past ?
(this is what is happening this chapter)

this is perfectly fine to prevent someone coming from the future, but if the person from the future is already here then it didn't work/there are multiple ways to time travel.

Let's say FRouge comes from 2020, then how is he able to travel back to 2013 when the gates in his time are already destroyed at that time? Remember that this is the present.

Lets use a different metaphor. If DeLorean's are the only way to travel back in time as discovered in the future, then how is it possible to travel back in time if DoLorean's were never made ?

Future Rouge can't exist here because the gate is destroyed NOW there is no gate anymore in his future of Lucy's future, that would've given him no options to travel back to 2012 (just before the present) to try and kill Lucy.

Him being here is already a contradiction.

He could have never made his initial time jump, there is no gate to begin with.

But even if Hiro chooses to go along with this path then all memories and events should be erased from everybodies minds, the fight and destruction would never happen and Ul would come back to life. The story should continue again from right after the tournament. That is the only possible way for him to explain this. That the current chapters are a glimpse of a third future and not the real present.

he used the gate to come back, so he won't stay here for long. the only thing was shown is the gate got smashed and he lost the fight. so as I said, he may very well just disappear the next chapter...

 

[Yveltal]

Way to put Mirajane aside Hiro, I was expecting a Laxus, Mira, and Wendy combo but no.....:NO:

It was an okay chapter....okay, what the hell I didn't really like it....

 

[Love Cook]

he used the gate to come back, so he won't stay here for long. the only thing was shown is the gate got smashed and he lost the fight. so as I said, he may very well just disappear the next chapter...

I give up.

You do realize that you're creating a time paradox when you make FRouge use a gate in the future that is being destroyed in the past right ?

Like crossing a bridge in the future that never has been build in the past.

 

[Narutohokage7]

3/5 for me. Hiro needs to brush up on how time travel wouldn't work like that.

 

[Cosmicstars]

I give up.

You do realize that you're creating a time paradox when you make FRouge use a gate in the future that is being destroyed in the past right ?

Like crossing a bridge in the future that never has been build in the past.

FRouge timeline already changed when he came back to the past. In FRouge timeline hes future self never cam back to the past. There is 3 timelines. More than likely it will go back to the GMG, since most of the stuff that happened won't happen since Rouge doesn't travel back in time. Creating a 4th timeline ......Hiro should end the arc now because Time travel is to messy.

 

[Olorin]

destroy the eclipse so rouge wont come back in time, but if he doesnt come back in time he would never talk to the princess and the gate wouldnt open (at least not in the same way or at that time) so they never destroyed the eclipse at all

its not just Hiro every timetravel story is riddled with paradoxes its a part of time travel and you shouldnt f?ck with it if youre not a physicist haha

but I dont mind if ppl make their own rules for time travel if the story is fun which it so I dont mind the time travel

also dont complain about Natsu defeating Frogue, you know a fire dragon slayer + eating fire dragon flames + combined attack with said dragon = A LOT OF POWER

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

not at all... look at this:

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FRogue and FLucy came from different timelines and futures, where the gate was intact. this means that there are at least 2 possible futures. in the first future Lucy didn't close the gate so the world got destroyed. in the second one she closed it, but Acnologia rules the world. so what happens if they destroy the gate before either can come true? neither the dragons can come through the gate, nor FRouge can come back from the future. this means only 1 thing, a new timeline starts what becomes the "present" and the others will either vanish or remain a different universe or timeline.

You make a good point. The thing I'm wondering is that these alternate futures should exist as alternate dimensions. Considering that Futures Rogue and Lucy arrives in this one from a previous one...in theory they should still be able to exist. The reason for this being so would be because the current generation has altered both futures; however, since they both technically existed from the future their worlds would still exist, but as a close parallel to the now altered present dimension


Of course the other possibility could simply be that the gates destruction erased the alternate realities by simply erasing them.




OT: Pretty good....wasn't shocked when they threw a freaking dragon into the gate....makes sense that Dragon OP Magic can burst magic resistant material I guess. Getting Nakama one shotted is a continued unfortunality, but as long as they look badass I'm ok with it....though more than a headbutt would be nice.

Nice to see Lucy being helpful, and Wendy&Laxus combo is pretty dangerous.


I'm honestly thinking the dragons won't go away, and we might have to deal with them for the present....like a little wrap up after the fight with Future Rogue.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Try reading before spreading non-sense, my last sentence was about alternate time lines.

It's a cycle, If you destroy something in the present, it will change for the future. But not only one future but for all futures. So if the gate is destroyed then Rougue should never been able to travel back.

All future time lines happen at the same time, when Lucy wrote her diary/book at that moment she already changed the past. Because that was the start of destroying the gates.

There can only be multiple time lines in the future but only 1 in the present.

I see what you're saying and I agree 100%....but what if he used something else to travel back in time like maybe a person who knows time travel magic.....I think only Future Lucy will disappear and rogue will be unharmed

Edit: I got it I think, what they are doing is creating a new timeline....This is what happened in order
1. They opened the gates and 1000 dragons came in....this created the future Lucy
2. So Lucy came back and closed the doors creating future rogue
3. Now that they destroy the door they distory both of those futures and created a new one even thou rogue will still end up like FR and Acnologia will take over the world

 

[CrimsonFire]

This chapter is your....well typical Fairy Tail chapter...yeah xd


Obviously this chapter is rush, Natsu beats a opponent stronger then him, and nothing special happen other then Natsu knocking Rouge into the gate. I will give Natsu credit on that speech about free will it was decent. I would been fine with Natsu beating future rouge if there was training in involved, but nope and also I did not like how the fight keeps getting cut off. Future Lucy diary felt like a cheat sheet and didn not make sense. Future Lucy said she did not know anything and just came to the past, but suddenly she has a journal that tells them how to win, flawed I think. Judging by the title for next week looks like this arc might be over and there was a reference to the festival arc after the major battle was over with Laxus, when Fairy Tail celebrates with a party/festival.

Over all this chapter..... huh I give a 2.5/5. This chapter was not great, it does not have that wow factor or was it interesting. I just hope arc is not ending next week other wise this will be very bad.Oh one more thing Time travel always brings up flaws and confusing in a series, which is why I do not like it majority of the time.