Facts To Prove Minato Beats Itachi

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Itachi doesnt need his eyes to cast illusions; just a finger; no...not even that is required. Shukaku suspected Itachi's caliber could only cast illusions on the entire Shinobi Alliance; Ao who saw through KotoAmatsukami outright claimed he cant see through Itachi normal genjutsu let alone MS or Tsukiyomi. Call me when Minato sees through Kotoamatsukami, he might stand a chance then. Edo Itachi is faster than KCM Naruto's reaction speed.
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Your hole argument is wrong. Shukaku thinks about genjutsus controlling allies and mentions Itachi and Ao mentions that even someone withe the caliber of Itachi cant control someone that far and mantain himself out of the range of the sensors.

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Your whole statement of Itachi's basic genjutsu is fanfic. Nice. And Edo's aint stronger than their real body, Itachi aint faster than Naruto who didnt use his full speed.


The markings can be removed from his body by repelling it with the Yata Mirror which is stated to "Reflect all things" or destroyed by Totsuka Blade stated to cut through any enemy. The marking is the enemy, totsuka will destroy it with it's ethereal liquid which is intangible because of a special mechanism induced into it.
The marks never disappear. You have to cut part of your body to do it. Yata Mirror cant reflect it once you already have it on you. And it cant cut it on you unless you want to disappear with it.

The underestimation is real. People say "Naruto was talking so itachi has no speed feat" . If talking was included into every speed feat scenario, the how the hell is Naruto making an "eyee" yell before light speed Madara Beam completely passes through his head to other side? Does that mean Naruto's yelling speed >>>>> Madara's light speed attack? Lmfaooooooooooooooo. And Sakura's Shanaroo words >>>>>>>> Shin's Mangekyou Pre-cognition and Foot Speed? Lmfaoooooooooooooo.
The difference is the intel. Dont be stupid. Yes, they are fighting but the main purpose was not to fight but to exchange info. And Shin having pre+cognition doesnt make him fast to elude attacks. Lee said this, it is basic.
 

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Really? Taking the village and only him surviving? Maybe not even him can survive since he can protect the front, but it is an explosion and and even the back of him will receive the explosion with only Susano protection.
 

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1.- Other Genjutsus that aint Tsukuyomi wont affect Minato. He is very great at chakra control and a Sensor. Izanami only works with those who lost path and Izanagi. Minato is a sensor and Itachi cant catch him off guard.

2.- Gai is not the only exception. There was war between clans such as Uchihas and Senjus where Hashirama and Tobirama survived and something they have different from other is that both are SENSORS. No wonder why they could fight Uchihas. Minato is a better sensor than Hashirama.

3.- In fact, this was affirmed in the war. Minato can link his chakra with someone's chakra. Susano is the chakra form the user. Minato touches the Susano and links to the User. Minato can decide what to take and what to leave.

4.- Raikage was the one who knew this. By the war, even knowing this, will all the speed he has, could catch Minato. Someone thousand times slower also wouldnt.

5.- Itachi's attack wont hit Minato. Minato does not need to hit Itachi, just touch him once and it is over. I already said said why Susano is a big disadvantage here besides its high chakra cost for Itachi. With a mere Kunai to head is enough.

6.- Speedblitz in a fight with Minato is inevitable. In fact, the first to hit might win.

7.- Itachi was not able to keep up with Blood lusted Naruto rather a Naruto who just keeping up with Itachi in order to change info.
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Your hole argument is wrong. Shukaku thinks about genjutsus controlling allies and mentions Itachi and Ao mentions that even someone withe the caliber of Itachi cant control someone that far and mantain himself out of the range of the sensors.

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Wow. What logic. Shukaku never said Itachi cannot do that, Ao said it. Ao has never seen Itachi doing the genjutsu in practical as he says "From what I know only Itachi can control from out of sensory range without being sensed by me" in viz translation. Meaning Ao has only heard rumours. He never said "From what I have seen". Shukaku knows Itachi better than Ao; the sweat in his face proves Itachi can really control that many people; Itachi was dead at that point so there was no need for suspecting he's doing it anyway so Shukaku never retracted Ao's statement.

Your whole statement of Itachi's basic genjutsu is fanfic. Nice. And Edo's aint stronger than their real body, Itachi aint faster than Naruto who didnt use his full speed.
Did I say Edo was stronger than real bodies? Stop putting words in my mouth. Itachi is faster than KCM Naruto reaction speed not footspeed as my scan proves.




The marks never disappear. You have to cut part of your body to do it. Yata Mirror cant reflect it once you already have it on you. And it cant cut it on you unless you want to disappear with it.
Yata is a spiritual weapon and stated to reflect all things. It can reflect the marking.



The difference is the intel. Dont be stupid. Yes, they are fighting but the main purpose was not to fight but to exchange info. And Shin having pre+cognition doesnt make him fast to elude attacks. Lee said this, it is basic.
What are you even saying? Do your arguments correspond to mine in the slightest? Talking is cancelled from the perspective of characters unless you wanna go about arguing Sakura and Naruto's voice speed is >>> Shin's dodge speed and Madara's Light Beam respectively. Itachi can control people with illusions requiring no eye contact from kilometers away he can layer this trick of his in Tsukuyomi and make it a non-eye contact genjutsu- really simple concept.
 

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Really? Taking the village and only him surviving? Maybe not even him can survive since he can protect the front, but it is an explosion and and even the back of him will receive the explosion with only Susano protection.
He can repel bijuu bomb back at kurama with yata And not to mention kurama would be put under genjutsu before he had a chance to fine anything

Itachi wouldnt be able to teleport to konoha like minato did so there might be some casualties, that is True However the fact still remains that itachi would deal with kurama a lot more easily
 
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