facts about minato & tobi's fight

[Mante]

Hmm...what a thread..ppl are so much Minatoying around @_@

 

[itachi uchiha1]

was there not a seal on the baby? i could be wrong, either way it was not much of a distance. and tobi goal was not the baby obviously. he just used that to distract minato to get to his old lady. FACTS!

if you want facts then go and pick a science book lol anything can happen like sakura can kill sage of six paths with one jutsu which is plot no jutsu

 

[zombiejesus]

as i said before and will say for the last time, minato did not win a fight he died in and so did his wife. i never said tobi himself killed minato so don't put words in my mouth please. Tobi's actions were the catalyst for minato basically being forced to commit suicide. tobi killed the fourths wife when you think about it lol. It is obvious minato is skilled, i never doubted that. but when you put the fight into perspective minato is strong as H** but greatly overrated. Minato has only shown us that he can send objects to other special kunai, and he uses seals for speed. his reaction time is great but his raw speed with out justu is unknown.


During the fight with tobi minato did quickly figure out tobi technique (smart man). Yet during the very next move tobi figured him out but got countered and hit. that was the end of their fight but tobi had already basically killed minatos wife, and the biju tobi unleashed would in the end kill minato. so how is it that minato gets praised for such a epic fail? i understand folks like the char,but facts are facts. I have no favs i just enjoy the show as a whole

i agree with most of this

 

[soulless uchiha]

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[Scryed]

Tobi had an overall better S/T technique than Minato. Minato was a genius but Tobi seems to be one as well. Though Tobi is superior in terms of S/T, it takes longer for him to absorb himself while it takes Minato a second to use FTG.

Either way, in my opinion Tobi still had like a 60% chance to defeat Minato while Minato had a 40%. Unfortunately for Tobi, that 40% chance is what took place in this scenario. Tobi having to focus on both Minato and to maintain the fox under his control. The odds for the exact same scenario to happen against are low. Tobi was confident that e was going to grab Minato at the moment he phased through his kunai to the point were he solidified but Minato managed to FTG to the kunai behind him and hit him with Rasengan. Though I think that Tobi was overall superior to Minato back then, Minato was indeed victorious in that fight.

 

[satori]

as i said before and will say for the last time, minato did not win a fight he died in and so did his wife. i never said tobi himself killed minato so don't put words in my mouth please. Tobi's actions were the catalyst for minato basically being forced to commit suicide. tobi killed the fourths wife when you think about it lol. It is obvious minato is skilled, i never doubted that. but when you put the fight into perspective minato is strong as H** but greatly overrated. Minato has only shown us that he can send objects to other special kunai, and he uses seals for speed. his reaction time is great but his raw speed with out justu is unknown.


During the fight with tobi minato did quickly figure out tobi technique (smart man). Yet during the very next move tobi figured him out but got countered and hit. that was the end of their fight but tobi had already basically killed minatos wife, and the biju tobi unleashed would in the end kill minato. so how is it that minato gets praised for such a epic fail? i understand folks like the char,but facts are facts. I have no favs i just enjoy the show as a whole

lol Wow. First of all Minato was never forced to commit suicide FYI. He did that to preserve the power balance of the 5 nations. If the other villages found out that their Biju was gone they could have decided to bring Konoha down so in short Minato´s actions prevented another war at that time. Secondly he didn´t kill Tobi because he had to take care of the fox, otherwise Tobi would be dead. Thirdly his actions prove that not only was he able to prevent a few catastrophies but that his skills are unrivaled thus far as far as tactics go.

 

[DUDEBDR731]

Two things everyone is over looking.

#1. Kishi wrote and drew what he did for his own reasons. End of that.
#2. I am a huge yondime hokage fan and I think he its the strongest. But strongest don't mean he can't be beat. The reason the fourth died was because of tobis plot to draw out the nine tails if he hadn't been able to do it the minato never would have had to kill himself in the first place. He could have done away with the nine tails another way but Kishi wanted him to die. End of story. Kishi chose tobi as the antagonist to bring about minato and kushina's deaths.

 

[DUDEBDR731]

And don't bother attaking me cuz I really don't care what any of you think. You're men same women on the internet. As far as I'm concerned attaking someone on the internet means you are a coward who wouldn't do it in real life. I will not be rewarding any more of this thread so please say what you will to out about me.

 

[monchichay]

Minato won by sealing Kurama to Naruto. Wanna know why? Tailed Beasts are a priced possesion by each Country. If maintains balance and power for the leaf. If Minato killed kurama then the leaf looses on the long run. I understand your point that Minato died due to the acts and plans of Tobi.

Loosing the tailed beast could mean defeat for Leaf because as I mentioned it gives leaf power. That was the plan of Tobi for the leaf to loose the Kyubi and use it to destroy them as well and not to kill Minato. Generally, Minato won because he was still able to regain control of Kurama for the Leaf thus maintaining Leaf's Power as a Country and destroying the dream of Tobi. Killing Kurama could have meant defeat for the Leaf.

 

[monchichay]

Tobi had an overall better S/T technique than Minato. Minato was a genius but Tobi seems to be one as well. Though Tobi is superior in terms of S/T, it takes longer for him to absorb himself while it takes Minato a second to use FTG.

Either way, in my opinion Tobi still had like a 60% chance to defeat Minato while Minato had a 40%. Unfortunately for Tobi, that 40% chance is what took place in this scenario. Tobi having to focus on both Minato and to maintain the fox under his control. The odds for the exact same scenario to happen against are low. Tobi was confident that e was going to grab Minato at the moment he phased through his kunai to the point were he solidified but Minato managed to FTG to the kunai behind him and hit him with Rasengan. Though I think that Tobi was overall superior to Minato back then, Minato was indeed victorious in that fight.

Minato is superior. I disagree with your 60% for Tobi and 40% for Minato? Minato has to think of Naruto, Kushina, Tobi, Konoha and Kurama. He did not think of killing Tobi only. Also he released Kurama in control of Tobi in minutes. Tobi was even lucky Minato fought with liabilities behind but still won with flying colors ( fast and efficient ). You mentioned Tobi was confident that he will be able to grab and kill Minato but failed where he failed. In that case Minato is superior not just by skill(using counter techniques) but intelligence as well because he was able to counter all of the attacks of Tobi wherein Tobi has no answer at all.

 

[Vin Thora]

Stop being retarded fool.....

 

[KOBEA]

Before manito's was killed by the kyuubi, the kyuubi was not under the control of Tobi and so it was not tobi who killed her. With the fight between manito and tobi, tobi could not stand before manito so he had to run away.

 

[friscokun32]

this guy is a troll but he dont realize it yet

 

[Viewtiful]

Two things everyone is over looking.

#1. Kishi wrote and drew what he did for his own reasons. End of that.
#2. I am a huge yondime hokage fan and I think he its the strongest. But strongest don't mean he can't be beat. The reason the fourth died was because of tobis plot to draw out the nine tails if he hadn't been able to do it the minato never would have had to kill himself in the first place. He could have done away with the nine tails another way but Kishi wanted him to die. End of story. Kishi chose tobi as the antagonist to bring about minato and kushina's deaths.

Tobi actions indirectly and unintentionally caused his death. Actually, they didn't even cause that. Minato basically killed himself because he used the Dead Demon Seal, Kurama didn't even cause it.

And don't bother attaking me cuz I really don't care what any of you think. You're men same women on the internet. As far as I'm concerned attaking someone on the internet means you are a coward who wouldn't do it in real life. I will not be rewarding any more of this thread so please say what you will to out about me.

Disagreeing with someone isn't attacking them. I hope you can comprehend that.

 

[sarutobi01843]

I only deal in facts stop making up feelings in your head. he's a villain he is suppose to play unfair. and like i said tobi killed her when took the biju. come with facts or move on.

Just wanna say that there was no seal on the baby because of the fact that the thirds wife didnt even let minato touch him sooooooo that kinda negates your seal story and shows that minato does have a lot of speed but ill agree to disagree :scorps:

 

[Imme21]

why are you trolling him so much just because its a minato thread yeah he technically lost that fight technically but on a diff note you could say it was a stalemate yeah he did stop him for the time being but all he did was leave another attack to happen at a undetermined time in the future so if you look at as a minato fanboy/girl then yeah tobi got his ass kicked or from a fan of tobi then minato got his ass kicked but if you truly look at the manga and go with the facts then minato kinda lost in the end he was the 1 to die out of the 2 that fought but yes he did die by his own jutsu get over it he did it for a reason but nevertheless he died and so did his wife so if you look at it from a diff perspective than from your own thought minato won and lost flame me if you want i dont care and on that same note think wat you want it wont bother mewhy are you trolling him so much just because its a minato thread yeah he technically lost that fight technically but on a diff note you could say it was a stalemate

 

[Eisenpelz]

Bro you're trying to troll, and you're failing hard!
Fact: tobi planned out the attack for a LONG time, everything he did, he had planned it.

Fact: in just 2-3 min time, Minato uncovered his secrets and crapped all over tobi's "plans"

You say tobi released the kyuubi, thus killing Minato. Well he released it to gain control of it, which was only good until minato decided to strip him of it. If anything, the kyuubi did what tobi failed to do, which was to actually put a dent in Minato.

Tobi is an epic fail, bro, not Minato; why? Because even with all the time in the world to plan an attack, ONE MAN ruined it in no time what-so-ever. Then he took off again for 16 years to plan another attack, and that ONE MAN'S son is now picking up where his dad left off. xd

+rep
completely agreed!

and btw,
some guys will never understand, how someone, who has chosen to protect some other(s), happens to be in the situation of thinking these other lifes more worthy than ones own and why it is not losing! ;-)

 

[F1N1X]

as i said before and will say for the last time, minato did not win a fight he died in and so did his wife. i never said tobi himself killed minato so don't put words in my mouth please. Tobi's actions were the catalyst for minato basically being forced to commit suicide. tobi killed the fourths wife when you think about it lol. It is obvious minato is skilled, i never doubted that. but when you put the fight into perspective minato is strong as H** but greatly overrated. Minato has only shown us that he can send objects to other special kunai, and he uses seals for speed. his reaction time is great but his raw speed with out justu is unknown.


During the fight with tobi minato did quickly figure out tobi technique (smart man). Yet during the very next move tobi figured him out but got countered and hit. that was the end of their fight but tobi had already basically killed minatos wife, and the biju tobi unleashed would in the end kill minato. so how is it that minato gets praised for such a epic fail? i understand folks like the char,but facts are facts. I have no favs i just enjoy the show as a whole

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Now listen up KIDU_U,Where u fail in this thread is bring the definition of a fight & the definition of a story into 1
Tobi & Minato fought,Minato won End of fight
Minato & kushina decided to seal the fox inside Naruto End of Story


Kishi didn't know how to kill minato without bringing a greater OP character so he decided that minato would kill himself U_U that story was trolled..
U say the fox would have killed him,when the fox was being held by a dying kushina who can still seal the fox inside her even if she would die,Again the anbu & the 3rd was on their way,if it was not trolled by kishi the 3rd would have used the death seal & seal the fox into naruto or they could have used even another sealing justu to seal it into NarutoU_U SO just stfu​

AND U WANTED TO KNOW MINATO'S BASE SPEED RIGHT
This Basic speed is more faster than a Paper Bomb that goes off in how many sec was it again hmmm why don't u calculate that for yourself,then tell me how many sec it takes to go offU_U

 

[NowNoon]

His raw speed is unknown? Yeah right, because when he saved baby Naruto with his raw speed it was in the blink of an eye.

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And Tobi killing his wife doesn't prove anything, he kidnapped her in his absence, that only proves that he was a coward.

Oh and Minato defeated Tobi whether you agree or not, so deal with it.

You're blown. someone one showed you some proof and you're still trying to think of ways how it could be wrong. delete your account.

 

[zombiejesus]

fact minato is dead tobi is not