fact of the matter is taka could had killed Bee at the cloud village dont be ignorant

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Taka out to capture 8 tails who is training very hard and have no idea he is being ambushed! At the end of the fight, all members of taka are posteriorilly facked whiles bee goes on vaca(calling them weakilings who are a pain in the butt, and freestyling in the mid fight)
Taka wanted to capture but bee didnt even want to fight. If he did, they would be dead b4 they heal sasuke.
Fleeing is forfeiting?

Do u see bee sweating on tobi? He aint freestyling and he sure as hell not plannig a vaca

Totally. The manga is wrong man. I love it how people IGNORE links to post flamebait posts. I have repeatedly given pointers to counter this non-sense but still the posts keep popping up. Do everyone a favour, stop reading anything, since you can't grasp what the author is throwing out. Love the bitch please gif now.
 

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Karin is a chakra detector, why didn't she detect it then? I don't know. You should ask Kishi. It is obvious the author didn't intend it to go this way, hence he never touched that part. The point is how the battle ended, not how it was going on in the middle or the beginning. Going by your logic, Neji won his fight against Naruto, since he was kicking his ass in the beginning, Kakuzu won, he was kicking everyone's ass, Kiba won, Sound ninja won against Sasuke...should I go on? It's how the fight ends that matters, and Amatersu steered the course of the battle. Hachibi was burning, Bee would have died, no one would have saved him. Team Taka themselves were brilliant. Sasuke was over-confident in the start, think he could take on an 8 tailed beast. He learnt his lesson, improvised and fought back.

If Bee would have appeared again, Sasuke would have taken him on with Amatersu, as he awakened it when Hachibi appeared. He could use genjutsu to knock Bee off for a few moments and attack him. Bee was exhausted. He used up ALL of his own chakra to go into a full transformation. While Jugo completely replenished Sasuke's chakra. It would take time for Bee to replenish his, and he WON'T be able to transform again for some time BECAUSE he reverted back to his human form to escape Sasuke. Which part of all the points in so foreign? Sorry, but get over it comment, you should apply it to yourself.


What logic made you come up with that? The fact of the matter is that Bee wouldnt have died because he escape with his own skill and brains. Sasuke caught off guard which he would have been would have been killed rather he had all his chakra or not. Taka was not brilliant at all, they escaped on luck and luck alone and took a clone. Killer bee was brillaint, Killer Bee>>>Taka rather you wanna except it or not.
 

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You can see the impact on his eye after using it ... To do that at the start of the fight is stupid and more than likely wouldn't work!

Tbh it's completely Hypothetical we can only go by what we see in the manga and in the "end" Bee lived and sasuke walked away thinking they captured bee.

Why wouldn't it work? He wasn't familiar with it, but when the moment came he used it to his advantage. That's what I was trying to say, the what ifs could have should haves don't mean anything.
 

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^ Bee not wanting to fight doesn't mean anything in the argument. I believe countless other ninjas didn't want to fight either, but they had to. Bee didn't have any plan at the time Amatersu hit him full force. Escape wash his only way out. Once he escaped from the flames after Sasuke turned them off, he realized that he could use it to his advantage to get away from village. Akatsuki would think they caught him, and the village would think he got kidnapped.

He came up with his plan on a whim, exhausted his chakra reserves. He knew he would get killed or captured if he went back, so fleeing was the most feasible way out for him, as he himself said that he worked the plan 'on the fly or on a whim, or in the spur of the moment'. Escaping the village was not his plan, it became one at that moment. He didn't have ANY PLAN to escape the village until amatersu bested him, so you are not seeing the whole picture here. As far as the battle goes, then forget Sasuke, he couldn't even best Suigetsu with his Hachibi blast. He was getting outmatched when he brought the Hachibi out.

Also, Hacibi is constantly guiding him during fight - calls him stupid too - , he uses its chakra, so technically it was 3 against 2 since Karin is not a fighter.

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She seems to be a big part in the fight for "TEAM TAKA"! So you can't say she doesn't count ...

Like you said before the only thing that matters is the end of the fight ...

What happened in the end ? Sasuke walked away with what he though to be was Kill bee, well it wasn't so ... They didn't win anything .. sorry
 

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Bee could have went V2 and killed sasuke ... The same thing can be reversed not to mention sasuke even said "I want to try something" He wasn't that familiar with Amerterasu.

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You can see the impact on his eye after using it ... To do that at the start of the fight is stupid and more than likely wouldn't work!

Tbh it's completely Hypothetical we can only go by what we see in the manga and in the "end" Bee lived and sasuke walked away thinking they captured bee.

Bee can't dodge Amaterasu, if Sasuke went there to kill him he would've been dead
 

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they tired to kill him just so they could survive and didnt succeed. bee was messing around and made the mistake of turning into the tailed beast form got hit with ameratsu and still survived and got away so this thread is pointless. what happened is set in stone and cant be changed so arguing about this is pointless. bee whooped ass the whole fight turned into the tailed beast mess up got hit with ameratsu and still got away by thinking on his toes aka "on the fly". taka lost in the fight and their mission. TAKA LOST point blank period.
 

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She seems to be a big part in the fight for "TEAM TAKA"! So you can't say she doesn't count ...

Like you said before the only thing that matters is the end of the fight ...

What happened in the end ? Sasuke walked away with what he though to be was Kill bee, well it wasn't so ... They didn't win anything .. sorry

Kill bee? They went there to capture Bee, not kill him. Karin is not a warrior. If the whole getting injured and healing thing is what we're at, then doesn't the tailed beast heals its vessel as well? lol Love it how everyone is simply trouncing on Team Taka for that.
 

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Bee can't dodge Amaterasu, if Sasuke went there to kill him he would've been dead

We don't know if he went V2 that it would burn through chakara ... But let's say that he can't dodge it. The point is that if you start to say yeah but "IF" And "BUT" .. Then it's completely hypothetical and it's all our imagination.

We can only go by the manga and my point being is that sasuke walked away from that fight without the 8 tails ... Without Killing bee and injured. sooo a mean ....
 

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^ Bee not wanting to fight doesn't mean anything in the argument. I believe countless other ninjas didn't want to fight either, but they had to. Bee didn't have any plan at the time Amatersu hit him full force. Escape wash his only way out. Once he escaped from the flames after Sasuke turned them off, he realized that he could use it to his advantage to get away from village. Akatsuki would think they caught him, and the village would think he got kidnapped.

He came up with his plan on a whim, exhausted his chakra reserves. He knew he would get killed or captured if he went back, so fleeing was the most feasible way out for him, as he himself said that he worked the plan 'on the fly or on a whim, or in the spur of the moment'. Escaping the village was not his plan, it became one at that moment. He didn't have ANY PLAN to escape the village until amatersu bested him, so you are not seeing the whole picture here. As far as the battle goes, then forget Sasuke, he couldn't even best Suigetsu with his Hachibi blast. He was getting outmatched when he brought the Hachibi out.

Also, Hacibi is constantly guiding him during fight - calls him stupid too - , he uses its chakra, so technically it was 3 against 2 since Karin is not a fighter.
Ur butt hurt shows. Bee is stupid but he made sasuke(who isnt stupid) look stupid.
Bolded: This is when u know u are butt hurt. He was trying to escape(calling e weaklings) b4 karin found him. am not seeing the whole pic?
2vs 3 excluding karin right. Oh yeah she only had sadistci *** with sasuke and orgasmed, sasuke came with a healed body that doesnt count right. Now we know the butt hurt cant be healed.
Getting out matched? Suigetsu was on ninja world life support while bee was on vaca with a panda. Jugo was a lil kid who u might mistake is being taken hostage by a paedo(sasuke that is, being oro student and all)
Bee out of chakra? Deluded? His tentacles had enough to fool tobi for a while LOL. You see u are making up statement which is contrary to the manga and so upon deliberation..

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Kill bee? They went there to capture Bee, not kill him. Karin is not a warrior. If the whole getting injured and healing thing is what we're at, then doesn't the tailed beast heals its vessel as well? lol Love it how everyone is simply trouncing on Team Taka for that.

You completely miss understand me man. I'm not hating on anyone, You said that she doesn't count, Why? Medical Ninja are a huge part for ninja team's so i'm actually the one that understand's she was a big part of there success. I wasn't that one that said she doesn't count because she doesn't inflict damage or the combat type.

Anyway i think this conversation has went on long enough! My point is that in the end team taka failed to kill/capture bee sooo.. If you call attacking a random person and making him tired a win. Then whatever man
 

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I don't see how? Chidori did nothing to Bee, Kanton did nothing to Bee, Sasuke couldn't even detect Bee's movements even with a sharingan. He got out-classed in Kenjutsu by Bee, and completely negated Sasuke's attempt at using a genjutsu on him. Bee didn't even need to transform to defeat Taka at that time, if anything it put him at a disadvantage because he became a larger target for Amateratsu.

People need to stop underestimating Bee, the fact of the matter is Sasuke died twice in that fight, and Taka didn't even phase Bee. Where is the ignorance in factual evidence?
 

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What logic made you come up with that? The fact of the matter is that Bee wouldnt have died because he escape with his own skill and brains. Sasuke caught off guard which he would have been would have been killed rather he had all his chakra or not. Taka was not brilliant at all, they escaped on luck and luck alone and took a clone. Killer bee was brillaint, Killer Bee>>>Taka rather you wanna except it or not.

His own skill and brains? You know what, here is the conversation again:


Page 14:
SFX: Splish

SFX: look look
KB: Good...no one's here.

SFX: Splash

KillerBee: Good... looks like no-one's about. // For an plan I thought up at the last minute, that was pretty good. Or KB: Not bad for a desperation move, not bad at all. In another manga translation.
SFX: Swom

8T: Not bad my Eight-Tailed ass! How many tentacles did I have to lose for that to work!

Page 15:
KB: Ahh, chill out, my big bull bro. Those things always grow back, yo.

8T: Stop coming up with stupid raps when you talk you me, you cretin!

KB: Hey, I'm the one housin' a huge tailed beast. I KNOW what you're goin' through, at least. Yeeeah, boy!

That's why...

8T: Why WHAT? And don't you DARE say something that rhymes.

SFX: splish splish

Page 16:
KB: I'mma write a BALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

I'm finally free, outta my brother's watchful eye,
'cuz Akatsuki "captured" me...mwahaha.

8T: The Raikage's probably flipping out...
you're all right with that?

Page 17:
KB: Hey, being a Jinchuuriki meant I was stuck working as a weapon for the village.
I need to step out and get some fresh air, know what I'm sayin'?

8T: So...what's the plan?

KB: When you think of ballads, you think of Sub-chan-sensei!
8T: Who's that?
KB: Bitch, you don't know? The leader of the Ballad-Ninjas!

8T: Sounds too laid-back...Akatsuki won't let this slide.
Plus you're almost out of energy from calling on me...
Why DID you bring me out, anyways? You were winning!

KB: That Sharingan user was one of, if not THE strongest guy I've ever fought.
I guess I got caught up in the moment.

8T: ...I think we're about to witness the dawn of a new era.
KB: Yeah? One ushered in by my ballads?

Side: The Killer Bee lives! And strikes out on a journey outside the Hidden Cloud!
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Juugo: I've got it, Karin.
Your chakra can't help him now.
Karin: What are you going to do?

Juugo: Merge with Sasuke's body to give him my chakra...and flesh.
Since his body was able to handle my Curse Seal, this should work.
SFX: Sksh sksh sksh

Highlights:

- KB:Good... looks like no-one's about. // For an plan I thought up at the last minute, that was pretty good. KB: Not bad for a desperation move, not bad at all. In another manga translation.
- 8T: Sounds too laid-back...Akatsuki won't let this slide. Plus you're almost out of energy from calling on me...
- KB: That Sharingan user was one of, if not THE strongest guy I've ever fought.
I guess I got caught up in the moment.

Which part of these dialogues indicate 'Brains and skill ' to you? The fact that he states that he came up with the DESPERATE plan at the last minute , or TB tells him he is almost out of Chakra, or he admits Sasuke was too much for him by acknowledging his strength? How would he have planned that surprise attack then, without the Chakra, when Sasuke's chakra was completely replenished by Jugo? All you are doing is throwing around pointless OPINIONS. While these dialogues are FACTS! Thank you very much.
 

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You completely miss understand me man. I'm not hating on anyone, You said that she doesn't count, Why? Medical Ninja are a huge part for ninja team's so i'm actually the one that understand's she was a big part of there success. I wasn't that one that said she doesn't count because she doesn't inflict damage or the combat type.

Anyway i think this conversation has went on long enough! My point is that in the end team taka failed to kill/capture bee sooo.. If you call attacking a random person and making him tired a win. Then whatever man

I said she is not a warrior, hence cannot fight one on one. Never said she wasn't a part of the team. In an actual injury inflicting fight it'll be 3 vs 2; Sasuke, Jugo, and Sueigetu Vs Bee and Hachibi. That's what I was trying to say.
 

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We don't know if he went V2 that it would burn through chakara ... But let's say that he can't dodge it. The point is that if you start to say yeah but "IF" And "BUT" .. Then it's completely hypothetical and it's all our imagination.

We can only go by the manga and my point being is that sasuke walked away from that fight without the 8 tails ... Without Killing bee and injured. sooo a mean ....

Kakashi lightning chain cut thru a V2 Tailed beast. Amaterasu would turn em to ash. Manga showed us what Amaterasu did to Bee, if Sasuke did that from the beginning he would be dead.
 

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hehe, it's NOT a fact because it cannot be proven, simply because it never happened, get it?
 

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His own skill and brains? You know what, here is the conversation again:


Page 14:
SFX: Splish

SFX: look look
KB: Good...no one's here.

SFX: Splash

KillerBee: Good... looks like no-one's about. // For an plan I thought up at the last minute, that was pretty good. Or KB: Not bad for a desperation move, not bad at all. In another manga translation.
SFX: Swom

8T: Not bad my Eight-Tailed ass! How many tentacles did I have to lose for that to work!

Page 15:
KB: Ahh, chill out, my big bull bro. Those things always grow back, yo.

8T: Stop coming up with stupid raps when you talk you me, you cretin!

KB: Hey, I'm the one housin' a huge tailed beast. I KNOW what you're goin' through, at least. Yeeeah, boy!

That's why...

8T: Why WHAT? And don't you DARE say something that rhymes.

SFX: splish splish

Page 16:
KB: I'mma write a BALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

I'm finally free, outta my brother's watchful eye,
'cuz Akatsuki "captured" me...mwahaha.

8T: The Raikage's probably flipping out...
you're all right with that?

Page 17:
KB: Hey, being a Jinchuuriki meant I was stuck working as a weapon for the village.
I need to step out and get some fresh air, know what I'm sayin'?

8T: So...what's the plan?

KB: When you think of ballads, you think of Sub-chan-sensei!
8T: Who's that?
KB: Bitch, you don't know? The leader of the Ballad-Ninjas!

8T: Sounds too laid-back...Akatsuki won't let this slide.
Plus you're almost out of energy from calling on me...
Why DID you bring me out, anyways? You were winning!

KB: That Sharingan user was one of, if not THE strongest guy I've ever fought.
I guess I got caught up in the moment.

8T: ...I think we're about to witness the dawn of a new era.
KB: Yeah? One ushered in by my ballads?

Side: The Killer Bee lives! And strikes out on a journey outside the Hidden Cloud!
Page 15:
Juugo: I've got it, Karin.
Your chakra can't help him now.
Karin: What are you going to do?

Juugo: Merge with Sasuke's body to give him my chakra...and flesh.
Since his body was able to handle my Curse Seal, this should work.
SFX: Sksh sksh sksh

Highlights:

- KB:Good... looks like no-one's about. // For an plan I thought up at the last minute, that was pretty good. KB: Not bad for a desperation move, not bad at all. In another manga translation.
- 8T: Sounds too laid-back...Akatsuki won't let this slide. Plus you're almost out of energy from calling on me...
- KB: That Sharingan user was one of, if not THE strongest guy I've ever fought.
I guess I got caught up in the moment.

Which part of these dialogues indicate 'Brains and skill ' to you? The fact that he states that he came up with the DESPERATE plan at the last minute , or TB tells him he is almost out of Chakra, or he admits Sasuke was too much for him by acknowledging his strength? How would he have planned that surprise attack then, without the Chakra, when Sasuke's chakra was completely replenished by Jugo? All you are doing is throwing around pointless OPINIONS. While these dialogues are FACTS! Thank you very much.

- KB: That Sharingan user was one of, if not THE strongest guy I've ever fought.
I guess I got caught up in the moment.

He's the best sharingan user that he ever though? What other Uchiha are there exactly ... Itachi? I don't think he's ever fought Killer Bee

You can sit and say whatever you want, But.... Sasuke can't win anything unless he completed his objective because Kill bee had no objective in that fight but to get them to go away ... In the end they walked away, By thinking they completed there objective when they never so... There isn't anything to argue about!
 

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Ur butt hurt shows. Bee is stupid but he made sasuke(who isnt stupid) look stupid.
Bolded: This is when u know u are butt hurt. He was trying to escape(calling e weaklings) b4 karin found him. am not seeing the whole pic?
2vs 3 excluding karin right. Oh yeah she only had sadistci *** with sasuke and orgasmed, sasuke came with a healed body that doesnt count right. Now we know the butt hurt cant be healed.
Getting out matched? Suigetsu was on ninja world life support while bee was on vaca with a panda. Jugo was a lil kid who u might mistake is being taken hostage by a paedo(sasuke that is, being oro student and all)
Bee out of chakra? Deluded? His tentacles had enough to fool tobi for a while LOL. You see u are making up statement which is contrary to the manga and so upon deliberation..

I am deluded and butt-hurt? LOL Just look at your post. It's a treat to read, because I have no idea what you're babbling about. I couldn't get a single word out of it except for a couple of them. Yeah and Hachibi itself said that Bee was almost out of Chakra because of the transformation. Butt-hurt much? Don't throw logic away just yet.
 

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- KB: That Sharingan user was one of, if not THE strongest guy I've ever fought.
I guess I got caught up in the moment.

He's the best sharingan user that he ever though? What other Uchiha are there exactly ... Itachi? I don't think he's ever fought Killer Bee

You can sit and say whatever you want, But.... Sasuke can't win anything unless he completed his objective because Kill bee had no objective in that fight but to get them to go away ... In the end they walked away, By thinking they completed there objective when they never so... There isn't anything to argue about!

Why are you blaming me for what the manga says? That is not what the sentence implies. It means that the sharingen user aka Sasuke is the strongest opponent he ever faced. He refereed to him by 'the sharingen user', because he obviously doesn't know who he is. It doesn't even remotely mean what you just said.

I am not going to reply to the rest of the post, because I've already said my piece.
 

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Why are you blaming me for what the manga says? That is not what the sentence implies. It means that the sharingen user aka Sasuke is the strongest opponent he ever faced. He refereed to him by 'the sharingen user', because he obviously doesn't know who he is. It doesn't even remotely mean what you just said.

I am not going to reply to the rest of the post, because I've already said my piece.

I'm not blaming you for anything ... Regardless or not if that's what he say's, My whole point is that sasuke didn't win anything because he didn't complete his objective!
 

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Thank You! Ive been saying that for a long time. +rep
 
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