Fact: Naruto> sasuke & sakura (chakra control)

[FlemSmack]

Naruto most likely has the best chakra control in the entire narutoverse other than So6P.

 

[Kage of the Hood]

Sasuke and Sakura can't even do a shape manulation of chakra similar to a rasengan.
The title is 100% spot on

I hate sasuke but i gotta correct u..... Chidori senbon,spear , and all variations are shape manipulation

 

[Kage of the Hood]

It was naruto displaying great chakra control not kurama. Kurama only supplies naruto with more chakra, but he does not manipulate the chakra for naruto. Which is why Kurama complimented naruto on his chakra control mastery when he powers up the shinobi alliance.

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Oh well it looks like naruto chakra control have grew, im convinced now thanks for the clarification. He probably sucked at it because he was conflicted with Kurama. I was confusing chakra control with chakra precision (what medical ninja have), but I still think naruto isn't that good until he can break genjutsu on his own without kurama (or has he already.)

Without sharingan or a bijju nobody really can

 

[Avinash012]

Naruto most likely has the best chakra control in the entire narutoverse other than So6P.

No Minato solo's Naruto in terms of chakra control,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[Auri]

Concluded on the lacking of highlights or feats from the latter. This does not staple validity in the end game.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

When he does a rasengan in base with one arm i'll believe you.

 

[MickNerks]

When he does a rasengan in base with one arm i'll believe you.

Whats the difference between base naruto's chakra manipulation and Bijuu mode chakra manipulation?

There is no difference, the only difference is the chakra pool. But naruto's chakra manipulation and spatial abilities are his own.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Whats the difference between base naruto's chakra manipulation and Bijuu mode chakra manipulation?

There is no difference, the only difference is the chakra pool. But naruto's chakra manipulation and spatial abilities are his own.

In both bijuu and kyuubi he has to use chakra arms to concentrate the rasengan. Poor chakra control. If he was good he would be able to do it with one hand like j-man, minato and kakashi.

 

[MickNerks]

In both bijuu and kyuubi he has to use chakra arms to concentrate the rasengan. Poor chakra control. If he was good he would be able to do it with one hand like j-man, minato and kakashi.

I have already demonstarted pages that show naruto using various rasengans with one hand, since madara entered the battlefield.

Naruto using one hand rasengans:

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[BenjerminGaye]

I have already demonstarted pages that show naruto using various rasengans with one hand, since madara entered the battlefield.

Naruto using one hand rasengans:

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The first example is biju mode made with chakra arms before kakashi warped him to the kamui dimension.

The second isn't even rasengan its a tbb.

the third is rasenshuriken made with chakra arms.

None of which is in base.

 

[MickNerks]

The first example is biju mode made with chakra arms before kakashi warped him to the kamui dimension.

The second isn't even rasengan its a tbb.

the third is rasenshuriken made with chakra arms.

None of which is in base.

My friend you are wrong, and are not properly looking at the manga.


1. There is no chakra arms helping him form the rasengan. It is being made in one hand.

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2. The tailed beast rasengan is still a rasengan that is being made in one hand. Before he couldnt even use 2 arms to make it. Now he could create it in mid-air with one hand. This shows advance mastery of chakra manipulation.


3. The third shows naruto making 2 rasenshurikens. Each being formed with one hand. The fact that he could make 2 in each arm is more than enought to prove advance mastery of chakra control and manipulation. There are no chakra arms shown in the manga that help him create these 2 rasenshurikens. He does them himself.

You are denying what is in the manga. In all the pages i have displayed, none are shown to have chakra arms in them.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

My friend you are wrong, and are not properly looking at the manga.


1. There is no chakra arms helping him form the rasengan. It is being made in one hand.

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2. The tailed beast rasengan is still a rasengan that is being made in one hand. Before he couldnt even use 2 arms to make it. Now he could create it in mid-air with one hand. This shows advance mastery of chakra manipulation.


3. The third shows naruto making 2 rasenshurikens. Each being formed with one hand. The fact that he could make 2 in each arm is more than enought to prove advance mastery of chakra control and manipulation. There are no chakra arms shown in the manga that help him create these 2 rasenshurikens. He does them himself.

You are denying what is in the manga. In all the pages i have displayed, none are shown to have chakra arms in them.

1.I forgot. true
2. Tailbeast ball and rasengan is two different things. He never finished tailed beast rasengan.
3.It shows him with already formed frs. We don't know if he used chakra arms as assistance.

None of that matters since none of those panels are base.
Even in sage mode he needs clones.

 

[MickNerks]

1.I forgot. true
2. Tailbeast ball and rasengan is two different things. He never finished tailed beast rasengan.
3.It shows him with already formed frs. We don't know if he used chakra arms as assistance.

None of that matters since none of those panels are base.
Even in sage mode he needs clones.

2. He did finish the tailed beast rasengan.

This is Tailed Beast Ball, which he makes with 2 hands

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This is tailed beast rasengan, which he was able to make with one hand.

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3. Its highly reasonable that he formed them indeendently, as i have already shown you examples of naruto creating rasengan variants with one hand. I feel as though you are limiting naruto's abilities based off his past Pre-bijuu mode experiences. But we have seen that he has learn alot of new abilities and tricks during his battle with obito and the advice he was given from kurama.

 

[fastrthnwind]

You guys are confusing chakra control and chakra manipulation/distribution

There is a MAJOR difference between these three types

Chakra control is only using the exact amount of chakra necessary to use a jutsu, and having wasted very little chakra. This is only done INSIDE the body. The best people in these areas are Hyuugas and Medics

Chakra manipulating/distributing is being able to manipulate the chakra OUTSIDE the body in order for it to take whatever shape is necessary and being able to distribute the chakra to anyone else according to a persons chakra type. Naruto is a master chakra manipulator and distributor because of his many variants of rasengan and because he can distribute chakra to any person, regardless of their type in mass amounts and even control that distributed chakra himself.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

2. He did finish the tailed beast rasengan.

This is Tailed Beast Ball, which he makes with 2 hands

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This is tailed beast rasengan, which he was able to make with one hand.

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3. Its highly reasonable that he formed them indeendently, as i have already shown you examples of naruto creating rasengan variants with one hand. I feel as though you are limiting naruto's abilities based off his past Pre-bijuu mode experiences. But we have seen that he has learn alot of new abilities and tricks during his battle with obito and the advice he was given from kurama.

2.That's a mini tailed beast ball.

3.The way i see it is that it was kurama influence.
Just like back in part 1 when he fought against sasuke at vote.After all their chakra's are now fused. But thats just a theory.

Realistically I think it's more reasonable that he used chakra arms. Anyways you have failed to show me any scan of naruto doing a rasengan in base.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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[shelke]

BenjerminGaye has basically covered all the points I wanted to expound upon. Naruto's chakra control is downright abysmal. This can be easily proven as he requires clones even in Sage Mode - considering the flow of Sage energy - to form FRS and Rasangan. This can also be aligned with his lack of prowess to break out of genjutsu at base mode, OR summon without Kurama's aid.

Drawing Bijuu Chakra and summoning or forming Rasangan - which he has done so on many occasions with Chakra arms or clones - again proves this thread wrong. Sasuke on the other hand has created Variants at a very young age when Naruto was struggling with a single Rasangan and with clones at that. He summons flawlessly and his genjutsu is another testament to excellent chakra control.

This thread is wrong from the get go.

 

[MickNerks]

2.That's a mini tailed beast ball.

3.The way i see it is that it was kurama influence.
Just like back in part 1 when he fought against sasuke at vote.After all their chakra's are now fused. But thats just a theory.

Realistically I think it's more reasonable that he used chakra arms. Anyways you have failed to show me any scan of naruto doing a rasengan in base.

It isnt that i dont have scans to show you, its that naruto hasnt attacked anyone in base form since before the war.lol
Naruto has been in Sage mode, Kyuubi mode, and Bijuu mode since the war began. And if he was in base mode it was only to gather more chakra.

Kurama's influence has nothing to do with naruto molding or manipulating his chakra. Kurama just gives naruto a larger pool and stronger chakra.


And the picture you showed is naruto pre-bijuu mode. Naruto didnt display mastery over chakra manipulation until Bijuu mode when the alliance arrived.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

It isnt that i dont have scans to show you, its that naruto hasnt attacked anyone in base form since before the war.lol
Naruto has been in Sage mode, Kyuubi mode, and Bijuu mode since the war began. And if he was in base mode it was only to gather more chakra.

Kurama's influence has nothing to do with naruto molding or manipulating his chakra. Kurama just gives naruto a larger pool and stronger chakra.


And the picture you showed is naruto pre-bijuu mode. Naruto didnt display mastery over chakra manipulation until Bijuu mode when the alliance arrived.

Kurama's manipulation is the only reason he was able to make his 1st 1-handed rasengan.
and the pic i showed u is after naruto got bijuu mode, not pre-bijuu.

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[XxLapizxLazulixX]

BenjerminGaye has basically covered all the points I wanted to expound upon. Naruto's chakra control is downright abysmal. This can be easily proven as he requires clones even in Sage Mode - considering the flow of Sage energy - to form FRS and Rasangan. This can also be aligned with his lack of prowess to break out of genjutsu at base mode, OR summon without Kurama's aid.

Drawing Bijuu Chakra and summoning or forming Rasangan - which he has done so on many occasions with Chakra arms or clones - again proves this thread wrong. Sasuke on the other hand has created Variants at a very young age when Naruto was struggling with a single Rasangan and with clones at that. He summons flawlessly and his genjutsu is another testament to excellent chakra control.

This thread is wrong from the get go.

AND we're done