ezequielosses (MS Kakashi) vs NSUNSR (MS Obito)

[NSUNSR]

Zex your judgement is crap. :| Did you actually judge our arguments, or just gave your opinion on the fight?

Thank you for the good debate EZQ.

 

[Zexion~]

Zex your judgement is crap. :| Did you actually judge our arguments, or just gave your opinion on the fight?

Thank you for the good debate EZQ.

Its crap because I had to judge your shitty arguments.


@EZ, Nah, the canon fight had them going one on one for a while without anything else interfering and if anything they were both equally exhausted

He can't spam kamui but he can use it to defend himself since he has no need for it otherwise.

 

[KidGamer65]

Its crap because I had to judge your shitty arguments.

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[TRE MERCER]

NUNS your arguments a huge holes in them that part was true you should always do your research on the chars your debating for.​

 

[NSUNSR]

Its crap because I had to judge your shitty arguments.

Thank you for admitting that your judgement is crap.

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You should be glad, that it's Zexion you're debating with, or I would have one posted you in the Nagato vs Minato and Itachi debate. Anyone with good knowledge on Nagato knows, that he isn't being pushed beyond low - med diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

Thank you for admitting that your judgement is crap.



You should be glad, that it's Zexion you're debating with, or I would have one posted you in the Nagato vs Minato and Itachi debate. Anyone with good knowledge on Nagato knows, that he isn't being pushed beyond low - med diff.

Considering Zexion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Deez Nuts>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You when it comes to debating, I don't find that likely.

Though if you one posted me, it'd probably because the BS I read caused my eyeballs to explode.

 

[TRE MERCER]

This is why Draegod didn't want none of them to be his judges in the Beans debate or they would have picked Beans just because he's there friend simple. Unorthodox got the same treatment in his debate with KG l00l.​

 

[EZQ]

Wow so much hate here. NSUNSR is a good debater mem. And i did use Kamui as a defence for Kakashi. He isn't warping away huge fire ball, and i did use it when it came to Mokuton. Besides that, the only thing left is cqc, where kamui isn't used, so i don't understnd that part of your judgement zex.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Wow so much hate here. NSUNSR is a good debater mem. And i did use Kamui as a defence for Kakashi. He isn't warping away huge fire ball, and i did use it when it came to Mokuton. Besides that, the only thing left is cqc, where kamui isn't used, so i don't understnd that part of your judgement zex.

Don't bother bro.​

 

[Lord Tywin]

Lmao it feels like everyone in this section is just here to flame the other.

 

[Zexion~]

Wow so much hate here. NSUNSR is a good debater mem. And i did use Kamui as a defence for Kakashi. He isn't warping away huge fire ball, and i did use it when it came to Mokuton. Besides that, the only thing left is cqc, where kamui isn't used, so i don't understnd that part of your judgement zex.

Your CQC was what I was taking about it was already shown in Canon the outcome of that :lol your feats on who has better reactions wasn't needed.

He can absorb a big fire ball

and raikiri would have sufficed for Mokuton.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Don't argue with the judges especially if your fate has already been determined it only makes you look like a angry fool.​

 

[solorflare99]

Great debate from the two of you. It wasn't an easy task deciding the winner.

First let me explain how I judge. I focus heavily on using good evidence. I see this as two interpretation of fictional characters from Naruto, and it's your job to convince me they would win, and the best way to do that is to use evidence from the manga. Make a claim is necessary, the evidence to support that claim is what will decide the victor. Make a good claim, Great! Make a bad claim I won't hold it against you it against, but if your opponent counters It will advantageous for him. Use good evidence, Great! Use Bad evidence and and I will hold that against you whether or not opponent acknowledges it.

ezequielosses (MS Kakashi)

The Bad

I feel as if you have could have done a better job explaining Kakashi's capabilities. You focused heavily on the V2 jins, but it wasn't a lengthy fight, and V2 jinchuriki do not have fast traveling speed, due to there heavy armor. It's impressive but there is better evidence out there and considering your Opponent(Obito).

Using a weakened almost blind Sasuke as speed feats is a weak.

You suggest Kakashi make 20 clones, yet also expect him to use his MS. That is a stretch, Kakashi stamina feats have been greatly improved in the war, but this is taking it too far.

Nothing suggest Raiton Bunshin are physically superior to Kage Bunshin,\.

What I feel is biggest flaw in your post is you don't explain how kakashi will kill obito. You do a great job at explaining how he will catch him off guard, but nothing that is truly fatal. Obito is very resilient and has a lot of stamina. This can decide be your down fall, depending on how much your opponent addresses that issue.

The Good

You do a great job explaining how kakashi will handle Obito's most powerful jutsu which is Kamui.

To make things better you prove that without kamui from either of the two Kakashi will be better off.

Shown great examples of Kakashi's CQC combat feats.

Displaying Kakashi using Kamui defensively.

You countered your opponents claims such as

Katon

Chakra rods

Mokuton

You explained why Obito's foot speed =/= Minato's footspeed.

Using doton to aid in Kakashi in warping a clone without Obito seeing is a great strategy

Overall your strategy was good and had a good representation of Kakashi's feats.

NSUNSR (MS Obito)

The Bad

Starting out by trying to counter an argument is never a good start(especially since your opponent hadn't even presented an argument yet.). Just elaborate on Obito and what is in his arsenal that will gain him victory over Kakashi. Worry about countering later.

You claim clones can't take damage and showed poor evedince to support this. Clones have been showed multiple times to endure minor injuries.

Claims Mokuton is too fast for Kakashi or his clones to react. With little evidence to support such a claim.

Obito did not use a chakra rod against konan that was just a pipe, how even MS Obito did use chakra rods when he raged out against the bloody mist ninja. Unfortunately you did not reference that.

Comparing the sensing allowed through Hiding Like a Mole, to actually Sensing done by actual Sensor ninja(like Minato and Tobirama) won't fly. To make things worse you fail to mention that Obito can sense chakra, which can be compared Minato and Tobirama.

he could sense chakra, allowing him to predict attacks and locate others from great distances, even in different dimensions;

This type of info could make a huge difference.

Your biggest downfall is your lack of your own strategy. You relied to heavily on countering you opponents strategy. You only played into his hands that way. Trying argue that Obito can handle Kakashi in CQC is good if you're trying say that CQC isn't Obito's downfall, but trying to argue that it will earn him victory is an a whole different level. Obito is superior long range and has more stamina, yet you just went along with your opponents idea of ending the battle with CQC. Things would be a lot better for you if you come up with your own solid strategy while countering your opponents.

The Good

You did great at explaining why Kakashi isn't outclassing Obito in speed.

You brought up that Obito has superior stamina.

You did a supported why Obito should be able to use Wood Release: Cutting Technique.

Showed that Obito had the superior weaponry

You was consistent with countering ezequielosses

Won the joke war.


The verdict

The winner is

Spoiler

Ezequielosses

The reason is he had a solid strategy and didn't have to counter much of what his opponent has to offer. While ezequielosses lacks a killing blow, NSUNSR lacks strategy which is even worse. The evidence was mostly their, it just wasn't apply as much as it could be. Aslong as Obito was going to be how NSUNSR intended, he was going to lose more times then not to Kakashi

 

[EZQ]

Well thanks to all the judges.

Kakashi GG