[Spoilers] Explination of Tobi Jutsu and how he got hit !

[alexu9696]

Why Tobi can have the same MS jutsu as Obito !

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[alexu9696]

well given the nature of how Kamui works they go thru a portion of space that is unique to it. The reason why tobi is getting hit in that dimension as the op stated is that when you have 2 similar techniques being used in close proximity to each other, their will be an overlap. So instead of just tobi sending body there kakashi is also sending objects there also. Because of their close proxmity.

The reason why i say this, is if we can recall the battle with Diedra that kakashi had when he used Kamui in combat that we saw him send deidras arms into a dimension, now if it was the same dimension that tobi occupied arms and other things should have been appearing there but that was not the case.

Also i have seen others speculate that S/T techs used by Minato and Tobirama go thru the same dimension as Tobi which also i believe is incorrect because one of the nature technique and two when minato escaped from tobi during kushina's flashback we saw him slip away. If he was traversing the same dimension that tobi used i believe that he would have been easily countered there. Its interesting because it touches on the theories of wormhole physics and behaviour even though its still theoritical

Its very possible that minato jutsu was phasing very fast to that dimesion with high speed and tobirama could have some very powerful space-time jutsu

 

[Shirou Emiya]

Well how do we see tobi in this demension when he is in the other?

 

[n00bsauce]

Well how do we see tobi in this demension when he is in the other?

He's a ghost. But since his body can't be in two dimensions at once, his senses are only fixed on the "real" dimension. He only has one set of eyes, nose, etc and etc. So it would physically impossible to be conscience of two different sets of worlds with one set of senses.

He's blind to attacks from the pocket dimension because he can't focus his senses in that dimension.

 

[Grasiano]

Its interesting because it touches on the theories of wormhole physics and behaviour even though its still theoritical

What we are talking about is like

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compared to actual

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I think what Minato does is pure teleporting, no shifting into a different demension
I like this theory (even though the whole Tobi disapearing flaw) because it actually explains the Kunai and rasengan hitting places it never came close to hitting.

 

[alexu9696]

Well how do we see tobi in this demension when he is in the other?

his like a spirit/ghost .... like Dan kato ghost transformation he transform into a ghost and we can see him but his body is another place ..

Dan was in tsunade body while his body was on the battlefield


Ghost man very scary xd

 

[VisionOfDisorder]

+rep i like it. great analysis

 

[Michael92]

At first I thought that Kakashi warped the Rasengan back from the other dimension to the exact same position that he warped the Rasengan away from earlier, making it hit Tobi's shoulder, but then again this theory makes more sense with the kunai hitting Tobi and all. Well put.

One question though, Kakashi has now successfully used two Kamuis... Isn't that his limit?

 

[alexu9696]

At first I thought that Kakashi warped the Rasengan back from the other dimension to the exact same position that he warped the Rasengan away from earlier, making it hit Tobi's shoulder, but then again this theory makes more sense with the kunai hitting Tobi and all. Well put.

One question though, Kakashi has now successfully used two Kamuis... Isn't that his limit?

i knew that his limit is three :shrug:

Also Kishi coud use plot no jutsu .... Naruto has a life giving chakra cloak and kishi could say naruto gived Kakashi chakra with his chakra mode.... or just trol no jutsu !

Or kakashi cant just make one more Kamui and then he is out of the game xd

 

[alexu9696]

+rep i like it. great analysis

thanks

 

[6PathsofKami]

Ok that ghost thing makes sense but that would mean he exists as two beings when he travels? Damn kishi better explain how that works this is the only thing thats confusing me.

 

[Edge]

I also really liked how the Gedo was warped away this chapter...oh wait! It was still there!

 

[alexu9696]

Ok that ghost thing makes sense but that would mean he exists as two beings when he travels? Damn kishi better explain how that works this is the only thing thats confusing me.

one being.... dan uses ghost transformation and he is a spirt both his body is still on the ground

tobi principle is the same only that it uses dimensions

 

[Higekage]

What I dont get it when he becomes intangible how come people can still see him een though he has phased to the other dimension

He just phases the part of the body that is being attacked

 

[~Dream~]

Yeah, nice find +rep.

 

[Randombody]

I don't think he can keep the kamui spam up.

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

Rep+,at least you know what your talkin about

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

+rep it makes perfect sense and fits perfectly with what kakashi said.

 

[Naruto The 2nd SO6P]

They should try the next attack as a Bijuu dama (tailed beast bomb).

Yeah then Bee should do one so he doesn't just stay there and he'd have to get hit by one of them.xd

 

[Kotetsu Uchiha]

There is only one logical conclusion, Tobi power and Kakashi power in their eyes work on the same principal,how? We know Kakashi got His Sharigan from Obito, so could Tobi be related to Obito if not Obito it self?I have never ben an Obito is Tobi proponent at all, I have railed against such theories in the past, But with Tobi and Kakashi Sharigan powers working on the same principle, I can't help but wonder?

(sorry if someone already answered this, I didn't check)

The thing is, S/T jutsu isn't a sharingan jutsu, only Kamui is. It's a coincidence (Plot no jutsu) that they both send them to the same dimension. It wouldn't be possible.

Thank you though! I was confused.. ._. XD But now I'm not