[Explanation] Orochimaru's Cursed Mark [Assisted Summoning Technique]

FearxDeath

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In this thread I am going to explain how Orochimaru's Cursed Mark works in regards to Sasuke Summoning him from the Totsaku Blades Genjutsu Realm. As usual read ALL of it before you begin posting

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This is going to be a short analysis on the workings of Orochimaru's cursed mark and how infact Sasuke summoing him from it does not invoke the powers of Plot No Jutsu. As always grab some chips, a drink and settle down, this ones gonna take a while.


Analysis of the Cursed Marks​

First off I want to talk about how the Cursed Mark is applied to a ninja.

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The way Orochimaru places the Cursed Mark is by placing his Chakra into his opponent. Much like the same way a genjutsu works but alot more complicated. The Chakra he places into said ninja takes on physicality in the form of a seal. And so far we have seen it working in 2 ways:

The First Way:
[ ] It allows Orochimaru to get inside the heads of the people who possess his cursed marks. Allowing him to not only see through them but also speak through them allowing him to control those who have them.

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Some examples of Orochimaru controlling Sasuke through his cursed Mark. Or atleast letting his presence be known.

The Second Way:
[ ] It allows the user under its spell to draw upon the power of the Cursed Mark becoming more powerful and taking on a new look as well. Another ability it has is to absorb chakra. Much like the people in Jugo's clan, and so a person with the Cursed Mark doesnt have to worry about the Senjutsu Chakra that Orochimaru put in them running out as it recharges over time by absorbing chakra[ ] around it, including the ninja itself.

Introduction of a Misunderstanding

Now to understand the misunderstanding you need to understand the events surrounding Orochimaru's Sealing.

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Now the reason people think that it is impossible for Sasuke to have summoned Orochimaru is because of this.

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Now in the scan I just showed Hiruzen thinks that he was the one who stopped the 3rd coffin from being summoned but in reality we know that the reason the 3rd coffin didnt go through was because the 4th Hokage, Minato, which was the person in the 3rd coffin had already been sealed within the RDS(Reaper DeathGod Seal). And with that the premise was made that people who have been sealed cannot then be summoned. Whch is also why Orohcimaru had to go through the trouble of getting the mask and undoing the RDS jutsu in order to summon the kage, along with getting his arms back.

But then the question arises, If Orochimaru was infact sealed by Itachi's jutsu then how was Sasuke able to summon Orochimaru? Could it really be Plot No Jutsu at its finest? Personally I dont think so, Take a look at this.

Introduction of an Explanation​

Now in order to explain away this misconception I am going to need you guys to pay close attention to the scan I am about to show you.

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What Orochimaru says in this scan is the question and the answer. It is what has confused mostly everyone but also what can help everyone understand things better when put in the proper context.

First off the most confusing thing he says is "But as I was split from it, My consciousness also inhabited it" another scan interpreted it to say "As I was split from it[meaning the cursed mark], my consciousness was left inside of it." Now people have seen this to mean that with the splitting of Orochimaru's consciousnesses there are now multiple Orochimaru's. With one remaining in the Genjutsu Realm and another who is now with Sasuke. But that isnt true.

Pay close attention to what Orochimaru said prior to saying the above sentence. "Ive been watching you the entire time from within Anko." Now this statement is crucial to understanding how the cursed mark works. Now before i move on look at the next few scans and keep them in mind as I explain them to you.

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Now first off let us take a look at Scan #4 now within Scan #4 Sasuke has a flashback of scan #3 which is where Kakahsi uses the "Evil Sealing Method" in order to seal the Cursed Mark. And much like other seals when the Cursed Mark is sealed its power is limited and is well, sealed... Now Sasuke used Evil Unsealing Method to undo the seal on Ankos Cursed Mark and release Orochimaru. Now one thing I would like to bring up is that although you may not be able to see Anko's seal it is infact sealed based on the fact that she displays none of the symptoms of being possessed by the Cursed Marks power. She does not employ its use nor is she drawn towards Orochimaru's power. Also keep in mind that seals arent always seen, Orochimaru proves this in Scan #5 when he is apparently surprised by the fact that Naruto's seal is visible. Even on top of that I dont think they would have let Anko walk around with an unsealed Cursed Mark.

Now this may all seem like nonsense. But look at Scans #1 and 2. These scans here shows that Orochimaru placed the Cursed Mark on Anko long before the Chunnin Exams, to be exact he placed it on her back when she was still his pupil. Now if Orochimaru did place his Curse Mark on Anko all the way back when he was still a part of Konoha, and if his consciousness was split from the real Orochimaru upon doing so, thus theoritically creating 2 Orochimaru's. With the fact that the Cursed Mark was sealed only further emphasizing this point. Then HOW IN THE WORLD DOES THIS HAPPEN!!!

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How did he have the information he had? How did he know things that only the "Real" Orochimaru knew, like the secret behind the shinigami masks which he only looked into AFTER losing his arms. How did he know Sasuke wanted to destroy the leaf village? How did he even know who Sasuke was other than him being a hidden leaf student that the original orochimaru was after. How did he know the specifics behind undoing the RDS and most importantly, why was HIS arms sealed. If he is infact a separate consciousness of the original Orochimaru then his arms shouldnt have been sealed and upon being "revived" he would have been free to use his arms. The original Orochimaru had HIS
arms sealed and not the new orochimaru who was alive and kicking long before Orochimaru got his arms sealed.

The answer is simple, both Orochimaru's are infact one and the same.

Introduction of an Elaboration of the Explanation​

Now that we have assertained that the two Orochimaru theory doesnt hold up and we are left with 1 option. There is and always will be 1 Orochimaru. But that doesnt make sense because his was sealed, Sasuke couldnt summon him right? And even if he could HOW??? Could it be Plot No Jutsu?

The answer to this question lies inside of a 3rd hidden ability of the Cursed Mark. teleportation, much like Minato's FTG except not as applicable. The Senjutsu Chakra that Orochimaru places in his victims serves as a lighting rod the same way the seals of FTG act. Thus allows Orochimaru to transport his consciousnesses from Cursed Mark to Cursed Mark. Much like how he kept his consciousness within Sasuke's Cursed Mark after Sasuke defeated him, only revealing himself after being drawn out by Itachi which lead to him being sealed.

Now this makes sense when you think about it because that is what his Body Transfer jutsu is all about, placing his conciousness into another body for him to control. If he could do this with a body it doesnt seem too far fetched for him to do this with a Cursed Mark specially made by him.

And with that only 1 question is left. Wasnt Orochimaru sealed by the Totsuka Blade? So far I have come up with 2 reasons as to why Orochimaru could escape this.
  • Orochimaru was able to escape from the jutsu in the form of a small white[ ] [ ] snake leaving behind a clone to be sucked into the jutsu. Although the scan labeled 2 shows Orochimaru's snake dying scan #1 clearly shows more than 1 snake escaping, show falling down from Sasuke's head. Similar to the snakes that we see compose Orochimaru's body. [ ][ ].[This is the most plausible]
  • Orochimaru's body was sealed within Totsuka but upon Itachi's death the seal was broken, but Orochimaru was still trapped within the genjutsu realm of the Totsuka Blade with no means to escape, and as you know what you do in a genjutsu does not reflect real life. So even if he attempted to shift over to a cursed mark that would not really happen, his consciousness would only think that was happening. Sasuke was then able to break the seal and summon Orochimaru out of said Genjutsu Realm for him. [Also Plausible]

Conclusion

With that you have the theory of how Orochimaru's Cursed Mark works. By becoming the "White Snake" Orochimaru has reduced himself to a form of pure consciousness, this is what allows him to inhabit other peoples body through the Body Transfer Jutsu. But Orochimaru knew that he would eventually fall into trouble and given that he could only use the Body Transfer Jutsu once every 3 years so he created the Cursed Marks as a kind of Safe Guard incase anything happens to him prior to him being able to use the Body Trasnfer Jutsu.

In which case he would be able to hide his consciousness within the Cursed Marks. The Cursed Marks are all linked through Orochimaru's Senjutsu Chakra allowing him to move to and from the Cursed Marks as he pleases, or perhaps even reside in all of them at the same time.

It is sort of like summoning Jutsu which all the Cursed Marks act as doors to the same dimension in which Orochimaru's consciousnesses resides. But only Orochimaru can open the door and so in order for Sasuke to summon Orochimaru he had to first undo the seal, and then use Orochimaru's Chakra [from kabuto's flesh] in order to summon Orochimaru [ ] [ ] out of Itachi's Genjutsu world.

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I really admire the work you out into this. But it was way too long so I pretty much just looked at the pictures lol
 

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I really admire the work you out into this. But it was way too long so I pretty much just looked at the pictures lol

Ill see what I can do about shortening it through my proof read of it. My threads normally tend to shrink a tad bit and become alot clearer after proof reading them. Hopefully youll be back later to check it one once it is completely finished :)
 

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I didn't read all of it, but it wasn't really summoning Orochimaru per se, my interpretation of that sequence was that his conscience was summoned. I will comment further when I have read all of it.
 

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Orochimaru's body was sealed within Totsuka but upon Itachi's death the seal was broken, but Itachi was still trapped within said realm with no means to escape as he could not escape as he was still trapped within the genjutsu realm, and as you know what you do in a genjutsu does not reflect real life.][/CENTER]

You made a small mistake I think u meant Oro was trapped
 

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Wow. Amazing theory. Sounds pretty good.

rep and great job.
 

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I didn't read all of it, but it wasn't really summoning Orochimaru per se, my interpretation of that sequence was that his conscience was summoned. I will comment further when I have read all of it.

Interesting theory, wish I had thought of something like that. :)
 

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Mkay read through most of it. Pretty interesting
 

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Off topic but there can be more than one orochimaru.
Anyone who has a curse seal contains orochimaru.

This is actually a common misconception and I made a lenghty thread explaining how this is wrong and detailing how the Cursed Marks actually work. THere is also a very huge problem with the idea of the multiple orochimaru idea which is this.

If the orochimaru that was inside of Anko is a seperate entity from the one inside of sasuke or the REAL oro then how did it know, after it was pulled out of anko by sasuke, how to undo the RDS? It was locked into Anko the entire time and thus would not have known anything about that since it never had its arms taking from it, the real oro did but it is separate from it. Infact that would mean that it would still have its oroginal arms since it is separate from the real oro.

I go further into this in my thread, i recommend you read it
 
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