Explaining obito's spirit crossing over to the living world

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

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You might have raged after reading this chapter but it actually doesnt violate the established manga logic

Starting off, spirits of dead people can be summoned from the pure world (where dead people go) using edo tensei

Edo tensei is actually just a variant of regular summoning jutsu (S/T jutsu) which has been tinkered and adjusted

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What is kamui? a S/T jutsu, of course!

Kamui as a S/T jutsu has consistently been said to be better than other S/T jutsus

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(Hiraishin is also a variant of summoning jutsu)

So there you go

If spirits can cross over to worlds using a variant of summoning jutsu then they can do so with kamui when kishi's says that long before this chapter

Kamui's potential as a jutsu>Edo tensei/Hiraishin (variants of regular summoning jutsu)>Regular summoning jutsu

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[Six Paths]

Perfect explanation. Makes really sense

 

[Dantе]

So he can perform Edo Tensei on himself with his Kamui?

 

[Haosrithy]

You know just as much as everyone else that the way Obito crossed from the spirit world and into Kakashi was BS. :|

 

[Tobi98]

Lel even if you're right this won't change the Sasuke fanboys

 

[Bogard]

Never seen it this way. That explains it better. Nice thread

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

So he can perform Edo Tensei on himself with his Kamui?

no but since spirits can be made cross over using edo tensei which is an S/T jutsu obito can do it with his kamui, an S/T jutsu

its not same but similar

Its the best explanation i got

You know just as much as everyone else that the way Obito crossed from the spirit world and into Kakashi was BS. :|

if people are okay with edo tensei, then they shouldnt have any problem with this

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

So what happened to the ceasing to exist every other character who died doesn't have afterlife this is kishi doing more bs

 

[Joon]

That shit was bullshit. Aint no explaining that. Naruto officaily sucks. :|

 

[Nicki Minaj]

I think the only difference between Kamui being linked between spirit world and real world and Edo Tensei is that Kamui clearly doesn't solidify the being while Edo Tensei does solidify the being. Other than that, Kamui sounds even more amazing now

 

[Kyoto Samurai]

why can't people accept that it was bullshit .-.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Well you have to actually think of the basis first. It is said to be able to perform jutsu you must be able to mold chakra. Obito only having a spirit form should not have been able to mold chakra due to not having physical energy. Therefore restricting the use of jutsu, I.E. Kamui.

Only ones able to mold chakra while in spirit form are ninja who are currently using a jutsu to enter spirit form and thus it allows them to mold chakra and use jutsu.

 

[Tobi98]

You know just as much as everyone else that the way Obito crossed from the spirit world and into Kakashi was BS. :|

Lel Tsunade's lover can do the same...

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

why can't people accept that it was bullshit .-.

why have a negative outlook all the time

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Lel Tsunade's lover can do the same...

Tsunade's lover actually uses a jutsu allowing him to enter spirit form. I think it's a kekkei genkai, not sure but the jutsu he uses allows him to use jutsu or chakra while in spirit form

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Well you have to actually think of the basis first. It is said to be able to perform jutsu you must be able to mold chakra. Obito only having a spirit form should not have been able to mold chakra due to not having physical energy. Therefore restricting the use of jutsu, I.E. Kamui.

The two places pure world (world of dead) and impure world (world of living) are connected by chakra, dont know what exactly it means but where there is chakra there can be ninjutsu

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Lel Tsunade's lover can do the same...

exactly, he gave chakra to her, hagoromo gave chakra to naruto/sasuke, its nothing new

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[Joon]

Lel Tsunade's lover can do the same...

Understandable because he was Edo Tensei and can use the Spirit Technique. Obito died and moved on. Then, his spirit came back via Kamui and gave Kakashi Sharingan. WTF. Officaily something I consider an asspull on the count Kakashi was useless and Kaguya was whack. Kishi had to spice shit up for the audience.

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Understandable because he was Edo Tensei and can use the Spirit Technique. Obito died and moved on. Then, his spirit came back via Kamui and gave Kakashi Sharingan. WTF. Officaily something I consider an asspull on the count Kakashi was useless and Kaguya was whack. Kishi had to spice shit up for the audience.

he most likely used his technique to move the huge distance between him and tsunade, he was a spirit not bound to any jutsu like edo tensei as edo tensei was released

 

[Tobi98]

Understandable because he was Edo Tensei and can use the Spirit Technique. Obito died and moved on. Then, his spirit came back via Kamui and gave Kakashi Sharingan. WTF. Officaily something I consider an asspull on the count Kakashi was useless and Kaguya was whack. Kishi had to spice shit up for the audience.

It wasn't his spirit, it was his chakra...

It's true it was an asspull (cuz we didn't knew this could be made) but it makes sense so it's not a plot hole

 

[Johndoesknowall]

The two places pure world (world of dead) and impure world (world of living) are connected by chakra, dont know what exactly it means but where there is chakra there can be ninjutsu

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exactly, he gave chakra to her, hagoromo gave chakra to naruto/sasuke, its nothing new

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That is fine, if it is connected by chakra but he shouldn't be able to mold chakra or use any jutsu due to being in spirit form. It is never stated that you can't give chakra away in spirit form. So Hagoromo giving Naruto and Sasuke chakra is no big deal. Obito performed a jutsu in spirit form which he shouldn't have due to not having physical energy, I.E. a body