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Obito couldn't travel travel through dimensions because of the juubi.

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But Madara could, even though he had the juubi inside him too.

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Explain this.

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VIZ specifically states that only his phasing was restricted. Full Kamui travel was not.
 

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bc of plot. it was kishi crap writing to nerf my boy. not to mention madara was split in half... if phasing sends part of the body away why did maddy go thru as a juubi jin?!!!
 

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scans or gtfo. his "phasing" is traveling through dimensions.

I gave you the best answer. Choose to believe it or not, but don't let your bias blind you.

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Here is the Viz scan:


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I gave you the best answer. Choose to believe it or not, but don't let your bias blind you.

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you know him "passing" through things is him sending body parts into kamui..... which is what Madara did when he kamui'd half his body to kamui land.
 

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scans or gtfo. his "phasing" is traveling through dimensions.


How is it not obvious that they're two different things?

His phasing only lasts 5 minutes and he's visible in both dimensions.

When he travels to kamui, he can stay in kamui as long as he wants and is not visible in the real world.

Phasing is also instant, traveling to kamui takes time.
 

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you know him "passing" through things is him sending body parts into kamui..... which is what Madara did when he kamui'd half his body to kamui land.

1. Phasing and Absorbing [or travelling] 2 different things :
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2. Viz scan of what Obito said:
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3. Look back at number 1


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Swish

Kamui is kamui, but there are multiple uses. Phasing and Transport may be the same jutsu, but they have fundamentally different characteristics.
 

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Kamui is kamui, but there are multiple uses. Phasing and Transport may be the same jutsu, but they have fundamentally different characteristics.
their the same jutsu regardless... kakashi even says its the same jutsu. if one doesn't work so shouldn't the other
 

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their the same jutsu regardless... kakashi even says its the same jutsu. if one doesn't work so shouldn't the other

Same jutsu with two different functions.

Amaterasu and Enton are two different things, derived from the same jutsu.

Susanoo has different stages

Rasengan has different forms




Bottom line is, phasing and teleportation are two different things. Phasing with the Juubi doesn't work, teleportation does
 

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Same jutsu with two different functions.

Amaterasu and Enton are two different things, derived from the same jutsu.

Susanoo has different stages

Rasengan has different forms




Bottom line is, phasing and teleportation are two different things. Phasing with the Juubi doesn't work, teleportation does

without Amaterasu you can not use Enton

without sunanoo you can't activate the other stages.

without rasengan you can't manipulate your chakra into it to give it diff forms.

whats your point?
 

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without Amaterasu you can not use Enton

without sunanoo you can't activate the other stages.

without rasengan you can't manipulate your chakra into it to give it diff forms.

whats your point?

wow you're really not getting it.

Jutsus have different variations. Just like the colors has different tones.

You're literally arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point. Ample evidence has been provided already that Kamui phasing and Kamui teleportation are two different things.

You just refuse to accept that.
 
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