[Debate] Every year we are told about the end of the world!

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Science can not correctly predict the weather during the week what you are talking about :lmao:

And they never claim to be able to correctly predict the weather. It's probability, not prophecy. Weather is sporadic and isn't constant. You can't predict it to a tee as there are thousands of different things that need to be monitored to make just one prediction.

That doesn't mean science can't explain it.
 

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Nostradamus had predictions that didn't happen. Also, you're using a completely different source now. We were talking about the bible, not an alleged seer.

Also, it's a very vague and cryptic wording. That means absolutely nothing to me. Like I said before, you can interpret passages such as this in any way to fit your narrative as you are doing right now.


I'll ask again, do you believe the world will end on September 23rd?

Have you read the title of the topic? I'm not going to discuss 23 and the Bible, I just give the following date, and I want to hear people's opinion about this and that these predictions have become frequent
 

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Have you read the title of the topic? I'm not going to discuss 23 and the Bible, I just give the following date, and I want to hear people's opinion about this and that these predictions have become frequent

Yes, yes, 23. 2 divided by 3 is 666. It's all just bullshit. You're searching for a conspiracy, not trying to work within reality.

What you're not getting is that end of the world predictions have been made since the dawn of human civilization. Not one has been right so far.

The bible isn't a credible source. The bible historically and scientifically inaccurate. It has contradicting texts and debunked prophecies. Why would anyone believe another prophecy from the bible?

It's like continuously investing into stocks that Leo Dicaprio from Wolf of Wallstreet tells you.
 

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Yes, yes, 23. 2 divided by 3 is 666. It's all just bullshit. You're searching for a conspiracy, not trying to work within reality.

What you're not getting is that end of the world predictions have been made since the dawn of human civilization. Not one has been right so far.

The bible isn't a credible source. The bible historically and scientifically inaccurate. It has contradicting texts and debunked prophecies. Why would anyone believe another prophecy from the bible?

It's like continuously investing into stocks that Leo Dicaprio from Wolf of Wallstreet tells you.
Faith helps to stay human, and it does not matter whether it's right or not. The main thing is that I believe in the Bible. Most of the laws and regulations were taken from him! I believe that you can not kill, I also believe that the other orientation is a sin and 23 here 50 to 50
 

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Faith helps to stay human, and it does not matter whether it's right or not. The main thing is that I believe in the Bible. Most of the laws and regulations were taken from him! I believe that you can not kill, I also believe that the other orientation is a sin and 23 here 50 to 50

But what you're describing is blissful ignorance, which in the long run hurts everyone.

You don't need to have a religious book to tell you that murder, rape, theft, and violence are wrong....
 

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Faith helps to stay human, and it does not matter whether it's right or not. The main thing is that I believe in the Bible. Most of the laws and regulations were taken from him! I believe that you can not kill, I also believe that the other orientation is a sin and 23 here 50 to 50

Faith in something fictional, or faith in something actual. Cause otherwise it just sounds like an escape or an excuse to just believe in something that doesn't serve an actual purpose.

Not telling you who to believe in, but certainly something to consider or acknowledge.
 

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But what you're describing is blissful ignorance, which in the long run hurts everyone.

You don't need to have a religious book to tell you that murder, rape, theft, and violence are wrong....

Without faith and religion, a person becomes immoral, and nothing restrains him, except the law! Change laws where everything is possible, and faith is always with you, it will give hope even in the most difficult situation
 

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Without faith and religion, a person becomes immoral, and nothing restrains him, except the law! Change laws where everything is possible, and faith is always with you, it willgive hope even in the most difficult situation

But that's not true as there are countless people who are good without faith and religion.

On the other hand there have also been countless atrocities committed in the name of religion.

If you need to be enticed with some eternal reward or punishment in order to remain good, then you are not actually good.
 

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Faith in something fictional, or faith in something actual. Cause otherwise it just sounds like an escape or an excuse to just believe in something that doesn't serve an actual purpose.

Not telling you who to believe in, but certainly something to consider or acknowledge.

A real goal without faith will make of you a bio robot that listens and executes without morality and awareness
 

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Without faith and religion, a person becomes immoral, and nothing restrains him, except the law! Change laws where everything is possible, and faith is always with you, it will not give hope even in the most difficult situation

That's not true.

And the hope you speak of, is pure delusions and a presumptuous outlook on life. You don't need religion to have standards, values, compassion,worth, self-esteem, and a realistic understanding of things and situations. Religion just distorts everything, it paints over the issue.Manipulates the truth, like you did in your comment.

Sure, some people need guidelines, cause the people around them aren't fit and do disgraceful things behind closed doors.And religion happens to be the perfect ESCAPE, for those who don't wanna learn the real way. Religion is typically hypocrisy.

It's fear based, used to prevent those who are disgraceful, from doing disgraceful things.A manipulative tool. It's not doing things, in a real way.Not having a real affect on people. Just a bunch of self-imagined people.

And the law, is necessary, but typically used for control purposes.Just pure control.
 
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and it does not matter whether it's right or not. The main thing is that I believe in the Bible. Most of the laws and regulations were taken from him!

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I believe that you can not kill, I also believe that the other orientation is a sin and 23 here 50 to 50

So if you were in a position to save 100 people by just killing someone, would you kill that person? If not then those 100 persons will get killed at the end of the day & you'll follow them as well.

I like the way you think, s/
 

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A real goal without faith will make of you a bio robot that listens and executes without morality and awareness

Aww, how idealistic.

You don't need "morals"...you don't need to make a rule or principle out of it, you just SIMPLY don't do it. Morals, are just an excuse.A complete excuse.

As a mature adult, with better UNDERSTANDING of things, you will simply not do certain things, because you KNOW what it entails. Making a rule out of things, just shows refusal to understand as to why people do certain things.It no longer becomes real.

Rules and principles= fear,refusal, and lack of security in one self...because you fear that if it's not made into a rule or principle, you or someone else will think it's okay to do it.It's an INSERTION, which you seem to make a lot.

When you're secure about yourself, you don't have to make it into a "moral"...you KNOW what it's really about.
 

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So if you were in a position to save 100 people by just killing someone, would you kill that person? If not then those 100 persons will get killed at the end of the day & you'll follow them as well.

I like the way you think, s/
Yes, I will let these people die! I did not give him life, and not my right to take it!
 

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Example:

Rule-do not rape people.

no, you simply don't rape someone because it's unnecessary.When is it EVER necessary to rape someone?And if you do, what does that make YOU?Plain and simple. There's so many reasons why behind it, that you don't need to make it into a rule or principle, or define it as wrong or right. It's self-explanatory.

When it's a rule, it's an insecurity, and you lack understanding of the situation. That's just how i see it.
 

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Example:

Rule-do not rape people.

no, you simply don't rape someone because it's unnecessary.When is it EVER necessary to rape someone?And if you do, what does that make YOU?Plain and simple. There's so many reasons why behind it, that you don't need to make it into a rule or principle, or define it as wrong or right. It's self-explanatory.

When it's a rule, it's an insecurity, and you lack understanding of the situation. That's just how i see it.
Who writes the rules and what stops you? Tomorrow everything can change and that it will be right to kill and rape, what will stop you? The answer is one faith, not upbringing and understanding what is good and what's bad
 

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Yes, I will let these people die! I did not give him life, and not my right to take it!

B-but doesn't the bible say that you should help other people out?
 
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I can´t even explain how stupid that is. The whole point of Christianity,Jesus and new testament contradicts the old testament, so Bible doesn´t even make sense to begin with and this is coming from Christian itself.

No, it's not. Those are shills used to ridicule the religion and make it sound as if it's a lie. Where in the Bible is it said 23 September is the last day before humanity is erased? There isn't, so there's no reason for any ''Christian'' to believe that.

The Bible itself blatantly states Jesus Christ himself doesn't know the day and time. That alone already debunks any bs any supposed Christian conjures up.
 
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