Every power naruto has is his.

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Even if Naruto lost the fox, he would remain a top tier.
How? Both Kakashi and Ebisu have said during the chuunin exam arc that Naruto's basics and fundamentals are far below Sasuke and Sakura's. His ability to mold chakra and control it were considered terrible. He was the worst student in the academy and failed twice because he couldn't even do things like transformation jutsu and replication jutsu properly which are two of the easiest techniques in the shinobi world and everyone learns before they become genin. He wouldn't have made it to top tier, he would have been a kunai chucker that fights zetsus. Without the massive chakra reserves from Kyuubi, his ability to use Kage bunshins would be severely diminished and that messes up his ability to do many of his techniques.
 

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How? Both Kakashi and Ebisu have said during the chuunin exam arc that Naruto's basics and fundamentals are far below Sasuke and Sakura's. His ability to mold chakra and control it were considered terrible. He was the worst student in the academy and failed twice because he couldn't even do things like transformation jutsu and replication jutsu properly which are two of the easiest techniques in the shinobi world and everyone learns before they become genin. He wouldn't have made it to top tier, he would have been a kunai chucker that fights zetsus. Without the massive chakra reserves from Kyuubi, his ability to use Kage bunshins would be severely diminished and that messes up his ability to do many of his techniques.
Yeah, but Naruto struggled because of Orochimaru's Five Pronged Seal. When Ebisu was training Naruto. The boy still had the mark in his belly.
 

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Kyuubi: his father and mother give it him.

Sharingan: booldline.

And let me ask you all this question....is the Sharingan a living thing? while Kurama on the other hand is a living thing.
Ok yes Kurama is a living thing but Sasuke got his power from another source just like Naruto got his power from another source.

Sasuke was made to take the eyes from his brother just like Naruto was the only one who is able to house Kurama.

Yes there are similarities but how Naruto has mastered his power far exceeds anything Sasuke is doing right now. Sasuke's Amaterasu was unlocked by his brother in hope he would be better than him. Sasuke needed his brothers eyes to even get ahead in that situation while also gaining a great power boost. Even then with the EMS Sasuke was of no use when both Itachi and Sasuke were fighting Kabuto.

Naruto on the other hand have been dealing with his power all of his life and is much more mature in how he uses it. Now I could say that Naruto is more powerful than him, which he is, but that is irrelevant when you look at how much more mature Naruto is with his power. Naruto has much more control over his power and has brought it to lengths that Sasuke right now would need some assistance from Senju DNA in order to attain the Rinnegan. I only say that because of when I seen him fuse both the SM and Kyuubi energy and now since he has BM that potential right there would be so much greater.

So like the OP has said everything that Naruto has is his power because not only was he with Kurama in the womb but he inherited by fate or just because he was the only other Uzamaki who could ever house Kurama again who knows. But the point is he has had it forever and has been fighting a literal demon not something dealing with emotions or thinning bloodline from Rikudo. He has trained, worked hard, appreciated, and acknowledged his responsibility for such power that was given to him by his father and why it was given to him.

IMO Naruto has made every power he has his own and no one can dispute that because he has mastered all of them like it was second nature.
 

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Man your naive do you think Sasuke never copied the hand seals with the Sharingan also Mito never controlled Kurama she just got perks for being the Jinchuriki it wasn't control.
dude kakashi passed down the chidori to sasuke doesn't mean he copied it he learned it and kakashi handed it down to sasuke like you could say sasuke is carrying on his legacy (chidori) and by what your saying then naruto copied jariya hand seals for the toad summoning technique
 

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Ok yes Kurama is a living thing but Sasuke got his power from another source just like Naruto got his power from another source.

Sasuke was made to take the eyes from his brother just like Naruto was the only one who is able to house Kurama.

Yes there are similarities but how Naruto has mastered his power far exceeds anything Sasuke is doing right now. Sasuke's Amaterasu was unlocked by his brother in hope he would be better than him. Sasuke needed his brothers eyes to even get ahead in that situation while also gaining a great power boost. Even then with the EMS Sasuke was of no use when both Itachi and Sasuke were fighting Kabuto.

Naruto on the other hand have been dealing with his power all of his life and is much more mature in how he uses it. Now I could say that Naruto is more powerful than him, which he is, but that is irrelevant when you look at how much more mature Naruto is with his power. Naruto has much more control over his power and has brought it to lengths that Sasuke right now would need some assistance from Senju DNA in order to attain the Rinnegan. I only say that because of when I seen him fuse both the SM and Kyuubi energy and now since he has BM that potential right there would be so much greater.

So like the OP has said everything that Naruto has is his power because not only was he with Kurama in the womb but he inherited by fate or just because he was the only other Uzamaki who could ever house Kurama again who knows. But the point is he has had it forever and has been fighting a literal demon not something dealing with emotions or thinning bloodline from Rikudo. He has trained, worked hard, appreciated, and acknowledged his responsibility for such power that was given to him by his father and why it was given to him.

IMO Naruto has made every power he has his own and no one can dispute that because he has mastered all of them like it was second nature.
Itachi's didn't give Amaterasu to Sasuke, facepalm. Also, EMS Sasuke didn't use all his powers against Kabuto and he withdrew from attacking as much as Itachi. So don't jump to conclusions.
 

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How? Both Kakashi and Ebisu have said during the chuunin exam arc that Naruto's basics and fundamentals are far below Sasuke and Sakura's. His ability to mold chakra and control it were considered terrible. He was the worst student in the academy and failed twice because he couldn't even do things like transformation jutsu and replication jutsu properly which are two of the easiest techniques in the shinobi world and everyone learns before they become genin. He wouldn't have made it to top tier, he would have been a kunai chucker that fights zetsus. Without the massive chakra reserves from Kyuubi, his ability to use Kage bunshins would be severely diminished and that messes up his ability to do many of his techniques.
You do realize that Naruto struggled to control his chakra because of the Kyuubi's interference, also he was subjected to biased teachers who would rather ignore hi, again the reason he couldn't do a normal transformation and a normal clone was because he had to much chakra also Naruto without the Kurama would have 4 times the chakra that Kakashi has so he'd still be able to do shadow clones...no if anything with no Kyuubi in the picture Naruto would of probably been better than Sasuke he'd be taught properly his chakra control would be better, and you say that Kakashi and Ebisu said that Naruto was below average well so...look at the two of them Kakashi, Naruto's teacher who taught him nothing over than tree walking and Ebisu who is the weakest Jounin ever.

Just so you know Naruto has SM which has nothing to do with the fox and he easily owns both Kakashi and Ebisu with SM
 

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How? Both Kakashi and Ebisu have said during the chuunin exam arc that Naruto's basics and fundamentals are far below Sasuke and Sakura's. His ability to mold chakra and control it were considered terrible. He was the worst student in the academy and failed twice because he couldn't even do things like transformation jutsu and replication jutsu properly which are two of the easiest techniques in the shinobi world and everyone learns before they become genin. He wouldn't have made it to top tier, he would have been a kunai chucker that fights zetsus. Without the massive chakra reserves from Kyuubi, his ability to use Kage bunshins would be severely diminished and that messes up his ability to do many of his techniques.
Yes he was bad at those things but if you would have read the Manga you would know that his inability to mold chakra correctly is due to him having Kurama inside of him and always suppressing Kurama's enormous chakra. So what do you expect??

Plus you have to remember that Naruto had no one to teach him any jutsu or the way of being a ninja like everyone else had. He had no one in his life to teach him anything and yet he is the only one I know who has taught himself Kage Bushin no Jutsu and have exceeded at it beyond what anyone in the Manga can do.

Now lets just say that his parents were alive, you know Minato the Yondaime and Kushina, he would have skills yet again no one else would have had because his parents were phenominal ninjas. He would basically just mess over everyone because he would have his father to teach him all of his awesome jutsus and mother to teach him all of her awesome Fuinjutsu. Now you can't say he doesn't have the potential to learn all of it because he is not a genius but you don't know that. Naruto had nothing to base his ninja way off of had any prior knowledge to being a ninja before the academy.

IMO he would have been on the same level if not higher than Sasuke because Minato was a better ninja, stronger ninja, and more talented ninja than anyone that could teach Sasuke anything about being a ninja or using ninjutsu.
 

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dude kakashi passed down the chidori to sasuke doesn't mean he copied it he learned it and kakashi handed it down to sasuke like you could say sasuke is carrying on his legacy (chidori) and by what your saying then naruto copied jariya hand seals for the toad summoning technique
No that's not the point my point was that he could do it. All Sasuke has to do is watch the hand seals of a jutsu and he can copy it would you say that when Sasuke copied Lee it was Sasuke's moce, people say Kurama is not Naruto's power despite Naruto having to live with the hatred of being the Jinchuriki and defeating Kurama to control it's power therefore making it his.
 

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Itachi's didn't give Amaterasu to Sasuke, facepalm. Also, EMS Sasuke didn't use all his powers against Kabuto and he withdrew from attacking as much as Itachi. So don't jump to conclusions.
Awakened given to him no matter what Itachi had a bigger hand in him using it than Sasuke had in any way. Didn't you see when Tobi met with him and the Sharingan went off and the MS design was that of ITACHI..

Plus I don't jump to conlusions I look at the facts and the fact is that Sasuke should have been able to do exactly what Itachi did but on a whole other level since he didn't have to worry about going blind and would have had way more chakra. All I am saying is that if Sasuke is suppose to be stronger and have a much more powerful eye shouldn't he have been able to take down Kabuto with the most graceful finesse since the jutsus he would have been using would have not affected him as much. From what I seen he was taking a back seat while his brother with only a MS was using more than just power but skill, genius, and strategy that Sasuke doesn't really have none of which is the reason why he was basically useless in that fight against Kabuto. Itachi did all the work and he finished him off.

What did Sasuke do with his oh so superior eye that is on levels way above that of the Magenkyo Sharingan???
 
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