Every jutsu has a weakness, so does Kotoamatsukami

[Bogard]

Like Obito or/and Itachi said, every jutsu has a weakness and i believe Kotoamatsukami is no exception

People think it's impossible for someone to detect Kotoamatsukami, but Ao proved us wrong since he was able to notice that the technique wasn't affecting Mifune anymore by sensing his chakra flowing normally:

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That also means that under the effect of kotoamatsukami, there is a slight disturbance that a skilled sensor like Ao could notice

Another example can be seen with Karin. It's also what Karin did when she wanted to expect if either Sasuke or her was in Danzo's genjutsu or not:

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And she came to the conclusion that none of them is in a genjutsu because she noticed no disorder in their respective chakra flow

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So all in all, if you are aware of fighting a kotoamatsukami user and is a skilled sensor, you are able to notice if you get manipulated if you concentrate yourself enough for that

Ao for example said he

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, so he probably did face his Kotoamatsukami, but still survived the encounter without problem

Reason why he was even confident that Danzo can't fool him with Kotoamatsukami:

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[mas129]

Cool down rate

 

[Fusion Reborn]

You are 100% right. I agree

 

[Allsymbolsparttwo]

yeah like danzo took shisui's eye

 

[Waltz]

You haven't proven that Ao Faced Kotoamatsukami during his fight with shisui, that is your speculation. What your thread goes to show is that in any one-one situation Koto would be effective, and even if an alias was able to detect the genjutsu they wouldn't be unable to help their partner as the partner himself wouldn't acknowledge the fact, due to the genjutsu.

 

[obito777]

hmmm.... I don't know about this jutsu though, I'm just saying. It wasn't hyped for nothing.

 

[Adebayo]

I agree that a skilled sensor can sense the effects of KA on another individual, but if the KA technique is used on the sensor himself, he wouldn't knw. AO was able to sense mifune being controlled cos he had the bykugan and could see that mifune And danzos' chakra flow wasn't normal, also he's familiar with the technique, that gave him an edge into sensing something wasn't right, and most important of all, he wasn't the one under danzos' control

 

[Bogard]

You haven't proven that Ao Faced Kotoamatsukami during his fight with shisui, that is your speculation. What your thread goes to show is that in any one-one situation Koto would be effective, and even if an alias was able to detect the genjutsu they wouldn't be unable to help their partner as the partner himself wouldn't acknowledge the fact, due to the genjutsu.

The example of karin is to show that a sensor can know if himself is put under a genjutsu by simply checking his own chakra flow, so a skilled sensor like Ao can see thru Kotoamatsukami

 

[minatouzumaki97]

yeah u r right

 

[Omnipotent]

The example of karin is to show that a sensor can know if himself is put under a genjutsu by simply checking his own chakra flow, so a skilled sensor like Ao can see thru Kotoamatsukami

They wouldn't know when to check their own chakra flow because they would already be under the genjutsu. They could be long dead before they even check.

 

[Reiki]

100% right

 

[Uchiha Shikiruire]

You're probably right, every jutsu has it's weakness and even the OP-ass jutsu kotoamatsukami has it's weakness.

 

[Bogard]

They wouldn't know when to check their own chakra flow because they would already be under the genjutsu. They could be long dead before they even check.

The point of the thread is not to know if they could notice in time or not, but that kotoamatsukami can be countered

 

[Waltz]

The example of karin is to show that a sensor can know if himself is put under a genjutsu by simply checking his own chakra flow, so a skilled sensor like Ao can see thru Kotoamatsukami

Kotoamatsukami affects reality, it doesn't put your mind in an illusive state leaving your natural body untouched but the target's reality is the illusion. It basically makes you his puppet without you knowing it, and what ever command is given you obey...believing that it is done on your own accord.

 

[fastrthnwind]

Im guessing that this thread was made to answer my thread.

Why didnt you just post it in there?

 

[Bogard]

Kotoamatsukami affects reality, it doesn't put your mind in an illusive state leaving your natural body untouched but the target's reality is the illusion. It basically makes you his puppet without you knowing it, and what ever command is given you obey...believing that it is done on your own accord.

If you know you are fighting a Kotoamatsukami user, it would be stupid not to try to check your own chakra flow during the fight

 

[Adebayo]

The example of karin is to show that a sensor can know if himself is put under a genjutsu by simply checking his own chakra flow, so a skilled sensor like Ao can see thru Kotoamatsukami

KA isn't just any kind of genjutsu, it manipulates the victim into thinking they are doing things of their own accord, so due to that, a skilled sensor like Karin wouldn't bother to check her chakra flow to see if she's in a genjutsu, cos she'll think everything is perfectly Normal. Karin did the check on herself during the danzo fight cos she saw stuff out of the ordinary, so she had to confirm it wasn't a genjutsu. But with the KA, u don't feel u doing anything out of the ordinary, so why bother checking ur chakra flow

 

[Bogard]

Im guessing that this thread was made to answer my thread.

Why didnt you just post it in there?

Haha true it was to answer your thread, but seems i thought it would be better to give a general answer to everyone, i created a thread instead

 

[Frikid]

In a 1 vs 1 match, KA is an automatic win.
In a 2 vs 1 match, if one of them is a good sensor then he can probably save the other one.

And , we have been told in the manga that KA takes a decade(10 yrs) to recharge so its possible that shisui never used it.

 

[Omnipotent]

The point of the thread is not to know if they could notice in time or not, but that kotoamatsukami can be countered

Can't be countered if they aren't fast enough, now can it?
Like I said before, it being able to be countered in the first place is a variable as it could be hours before the sensor attempts to check their own chakra flow; by then they could be used and disposed of.
What if the demand that was used on KA was specifically not to check the chakra flow? How would it be countered, then?