Even with The Hype of Third Databook Itachi looses to Narutoverse top 10

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Hello guys, I would like to prove that even with the hype of Third Databook Itachi could still loose to top tiers of Narutoverse and I will prove that.

1. Itachi fans arguments: "Amaterasu gg", "Finger Genjutsu gg", "Tsukuyomi gg", "Totsuka gg", "Yata gg"

2. While First three are easy to prove I will mainly focus on the two last ones based on infamous spirit weapons Itachi is wielding.

3. Although Totsuka blade has massive hype being able to seal anything it pierces. It was never stated that Totsuka CAN pierce through everything, which is fallacy and vague statement at least. Of course it can change shape and has no form, so it could not be deflected basically.

The only weakness of it is limited range of attack and speed of Totsuka movement depends on speed of wielder, same with reaction time which is needed to react to target/victim in line of his sight.

4. Yata Mirror, another spirit weapon or rather shield which turn back/nuliffy any attack by mirror changing it's properties to whatever attack has nullifying it in effect. The Mirror was shown able to expand and change it's shape freely covering all 360 degrees around Itachi.

The only weakness of it is it need reaction time of wielder to expand in time and cover all 360 degrees and even then it was never shown to shield Itachi from down or from top.

Ok, so finally I can come to Naruto top tiers proving how they can beat that Itachi will all mighty hype:

1. Kaguya
Despite the common belief that Kaguya is mindless or stupid lacking battle experience to fight properly she seems to be smart enough to avoid any attack she can not counter. It was clearly shown when Sasuke used Enton Kagatsuchi or even when naruto and Sasuke triend to land seals on her she went through space portal to get them back.

Amaterasu's counter: Absorption powers, Opening Dimenssion hole to send attack somwhere else

Finger genjutsu's counter: If Rinnegan was stated being immune to all visual genjtusu, then Rinnesharigan aka supreme eye is certain of it, especially if Kaguya was the one who used Ultimate genjutsu aka IT.

Tsukuyomi's counter: As stated above, there is no hope for Itachi to catch her in it

Totsuka's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on constant avoiding attack of it's thrusts while shooting Ash bones at him, which can be also used from any direction due to Dimenssion portals. Also She can always use her Godly Vacuum palm to push weapon along with Itachi back.

Yata's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on attacking from uncovered place by Yata with supperior speed before Itachi can even react. Another way she can always disappear and make the world attack him so he has not time to make yata expand and shield him from all angles. Another way is throwing him in lava or acid dimenssion, using gravity dimenssion she can hold him down while ending him with murderous ash bone. Last way woudl be freezing Itachi then finishing him.

2. Ten tails host Hagoromo,
Amaterasu's counter: Preta Path, using TSB to get rid of them

Finger genjutsu's counter: Rinnegan was stated being immune to all visual genjtusu and Hagoromo has mastery over Rinnegan as none else.

Tsukuyomi's counter: As stated above, there is no hope for Itachi to catch him in it

Totsuka's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on constant avoiding attack of it's thrusts while shooting TSB at him. Also He can always use Shinra Tensei to push weapon along with Itachi back.

Yata's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on attacking from uncovered place by Yata with supperior speed before Itachi can even react. Another way is using Nunoboko Sword Hagoromo would deflect Totsuka with no need of direct contact. Another way is blitzing behind Itachi and using Human path to rip Itachi soul out of body, the moment he got touched Itachi is unable to fight back or use any weapons.

3. Ten tails Host Three eyed/dual Rinnegan Madara,
Amaterasu's counter: Preta Path, using TSB to get rid of them

Finger genjutsu's counter: Rinnegan was stated being immune to all visual genjtusu.

Tsukuyomi's counter: As stated above, there is no hope for Itachi to catch him in it

Totsuka's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on constant avoiding attack of it's thrusts while shooting TSB at him. Also He can always use Shinra Tensei to push weapon along with Itachi back. The only issue would be Madara's ego and depending on having knowledge about Totsuka or no. If he has data on it, then despite his ego Madara would fight smart avoiding thrusts, else Madara would be beaten by his arrogance by tanking the thrust wanted to show supperiority.

Yata's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on attacking from uncovered place by Yata with supperior speed before Itachi can even react. Another way is blitzing behind Itachi and using Human path to rip Itachi soul out of body, the moment he got touched Itachi is unable to fight back or use any weapons.

4. Six paths Sage mode Naruto/Rinnegan Sasuke
Amaterasu's counter: Chakra cloak and extend it from himself, cut it then or tailed beast roar /Preta Path, using TSB to get rid of them

Finger genjutsu's counter: Tailed beasts awake him no problem/Rinnegan was stated being immune to all visual genjtusu and Hagoromo has mastery over Rinnegan as none else.

Tsukuyomi's counter: Tailed beasts can easily switch with him in control of body avoiding itachi's attack while using time to awake Naruto/As stated above, there is no hope for Itachi to catch him in it

Totsuka's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on constant avoiding attack of it's thrusts while shooting TSB/Susanoo arows at him. Also He can always use Tailed beast roar/Shinra Tensei to push weapon along with Itachi back. Sasuke can also switch places with itachi so itachi ends sealing himself.

Yata's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on attacking from uncovered place by Yata with supperior speed before Itachi can even react. Another way is blitzing behind Itachi and using Human path to rip Itachi soul out of body, the moment he got touched Itachi is unable to fight back or use any weapons(for Sasuke) or Use charka arms to hold Itachi in place to attack him from all degrees using clones(Naruto's case).

5. 8Th Gate Gai,
Amaterasu's counter: Avoiding at blitzing speed

Finger genjutsu's counter: Gai is expert in avoiding eye contact, besides I doubt Itachi could even keep eye contact with speed Gai is moving at.

Tsukuyomi's counter: As stated above, there is no hope for Itachi to catch him in it

Totsuka's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on constant avoiding attack of it's thrusts while shooting using evening elephant steps to finish Itachi.

Yata's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on attacking from uncovered place by Yata with supperior speed before Itachi can even react. Gai would be blitzing around Itachi making it impossible for Itachi to know from where he will attack. As the last resort Guy can use Night Guy which lethaly wounded Jinchurki Uchiha Madara even being close to kill him.

6. Ten tails host Obito,
Amaterasu's counter: using TSB to get rid of them

Finger genjutsu's counter: Rinnegan was stated being immune to all visual genjtusu

Tsukuyomi's counter: As stated above, there is no hope for Itachi to catch him in it

Totsuka's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on constant avoiding attack of it's thrusts while shooting TSB at him. Also He can always use Shinra chakra arm to clash with weapon avoiding direct contact.

Yata's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on attacking from uncovered place by Yata with supperior speed before Itachi can even react. Another way is using Nunoboko Sword to deflect Totsuka with no need of direct contact. Another way is blitzing behind Itachi and using Human path to rip Itachi soul out of body, the moment he got touched Itachi is unable to fight back or use any weapons.

7. Rikudou DMS Kakashi,
Amaterasu's counter: Kamui warp, or phasing through it

Finger genjutsu's counter: Kakashi uses Obito's sharigan to counter it.

Tsukuyomi's counter: Kakashi has mastered sharigan powers so he would most likely fight back

Totsuka's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on constant avoiding attack of it's thrusts by for example phasing through it while shooting Kamui shurikens at Itachi. Also He can always use Perfect Sussano to attack from above Itachi before he will be spotted

Yata's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on attacking from uncovered place by Yata with supperior speed/ Kamui warp to get behind him before Itachi can even react. Another way is using long range warp to warp Yata Mirror. Another way is phasing through ground and attack Itachi from underground.

8. SM Hashirama
Amaterasu's counter: extend his caught on fire parts of body via wood release and deattach them

Finger genjutsu's counter: Hashirama was contantly fighting against Uchiha clan so he should be more or less prepared for such tricks.

Tsukuyomi's counter: One of dangerous attack which would potentialy put Hashirama in danger as even if it doesn't work to break Hashirama's mind, then it would give perfect oppening for Totsuka blade slash. The only way of Hashirama to fight avoiding it is use of wood clones.

Totsuka's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on constant avoiding attack of it's thrusts while shooting Throwing many wood release attacks to obscur Itachi's vision and overhelm him from all sides. Summoning buddha would be one of solutions as Totsuka should be not able to seal it as it not living being.

Yata's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on attacking from uncovered place by Yata with supperior speed before Itachi can even react. Another way is overhelm him from all sides using massive mokuton attack or sleeping pollen to put Itachi to sleep ending him.

9. BM Minato
Amaterasu's counter: extend his caught on fire parts of body via chakra cloak and deattach them

Finger genjutsu's counter: Minato is clever shinobi who trained one Uchiha clansman, so he should now how to fight against Genjutsu users.

Tsukuyomi's counter: Basically he is too fast for it

Totsuka's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on constant avoiding attack of it's thrusts while blitzing around using FTG to get behind him and and end him with powered Rasengan. Shotting TBB from point black at unexpected Itachi is alone one of the ways.

Yata's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on attacking from uncovered place by Yata with supperior speed before Itachi can even react. Another way is shooting multiple chakra arms at Itachi trying to grab Yata Mirror and hold it in place, while trying to get to him.

10. Prime Nagato
Amaterasu's counter: Preta Path/Shinra Tensei

Finger genjutsu's counter: Rinnegan is immune to visual genjtusu

Tsukuyomi's counter: as stated above

Totsuka's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on constant avoiding attack of it's thrusts while blitzing(using summons to distract Itachi, or movie around) using to get behind him and and end him with Human path soul rip. Shotting Ashura chakra canoon, or cnoon of projectiles, using summon to distract him is also good way

Yata's counter: Basically it is not counter or rather way around based on distracting to get to place not covered by Yata before Itachi can notice him. Another way is use CT to seal Itachi in giant rock construction.

^^ SO as I promised I proved how even with The hype Itachi is behind top 10 of the strongest characters.
I will not go further to prove more characters would have chance, but yes there is so more.

NOTE: I excluded Hamura, Indra, Ashura, Toneri who are featless almost, by but powerscalling and being Ootsutsuki as deities they could beat Itachi as well.

Basically anyone with much supperior speed and way to finish itachi in one blow can beat him and assuming Itachi is ready to fight with Complete Sussano wielding mirror and blade already.

If only Itachi has God tier speed and huge chakra amount then he would be indeed invicible to everyone.

Thanks for reading !
 
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It Was Also Never Stated That It Cant Seal Everything.
 

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This thread wasn't needed. Anyone with a shred of common sense already knows this.
 

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good thread OP forget about the trolls and also sasuke could use genjutsu:Rinnegan to deal with itachi easily, naruto can use his shukaku sand to get itachi out of his susanoo like what gaara did to madara.

itachi=overrated
 

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You wasted your time with this. Anyone with a shrivel of common sense know that every top tier and every semi-demi-God absolutely laugh at Itachi. Itachi has and always will be on Tobirama's tier, and Tobirama was never top 10 (Itachi was because of his naturally stronger techniques).
 

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LMAO, this thread is such a failure

Reading first of his top-3 list:

Totsuka: basicly it's not a counter...
Yata: basicly it's not a counter...

Dat self ownage Lol

/thread
 

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What's the point in this thread? Everyone knows this already and besides Itachi is overrated.
 

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Illness > Itachi. DONE. No need for more although these are perfectly reasonable arguments.
 

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I disagree...

You said third databook?

Itachi's speed is rated 5 at speed..
So Totsuka GG

Yata can stop all things..

Anaterasu isn't his signature attack sooo
 

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It Was Also Never Stated That It Cant Seal Everything.

Of course, But this is not main point of thread anyway

This thread wasn't needed. Anyone with a shred of common sense already knows this.

Maybe, but I think sometimes people need some things to be reminded

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good thread OP forget about the trolls and also sasuke could use genjutsu:Rinnegan to deal with itachi easily, naruto can use his shukaku sand to get itachi out of his susanoo like what gaara did to madara.

itachi=overrated

Yeah exactly, although I am really impressed by Itachi's performance as he didn't have power ups handed to him.

Anyway Itachi with Rikudou chakra(Same which DMS Kakashi got) would be indeed invincible, as issue with piercing Totsuka thrust would be gone and Reaction time as well so Yata would always shield him in time and outlasting effect would be hard to reach.

Which implies not many on NB do

Yeah, saldy this is the conclusion we can pull from the posts here

You wasted your time with this. Anyone with a shrivel of common sense know that every top tier and every semi-demi-God absolutely laugh at Itachi. Itachi has and always will be on Tobirama's tier, and Tobirama was never top 10 (Itachi was because of his naturally stronger techniques).
Maybe, but I think sometimes people need some things to be reminded

LMAO, this thread is such a failure

Reading first of his top-3 list:

Totsuka: basicly it's not a counter...
Yata: basicly it's not a counter...

Dat self ownage Lol

/thread

Yes, yes Mr. smartass but you know what ?

Way around something can be as effective as counter itself. It still proves that There is ways to go around them so they are not complete invincible, unavoidable.

stay butthurt

What's the point in this thread? Everyone knows this already and besides Itachi is overrated.

Well, I wanted to estabilish it, that all.

Illness > Itachi. DONE. No need for more although these are perfectly reasonable arguments.

Thank you U_U

I disagree...

You said third databook?

Itachi's speed is rated 5 at speed..
So Totsuka GG

Yata can stop all things..

Anaterasu isn't his signature attack sooo

Yes, Databook stats are not important as every character was stated in base state.

Most of the character recieved enhacements or boost so their speed is much more supperior to these in databook.

Totsuka GG only work if Itachi is fast enough to land it on target, else it is useless and manga shows it would not work at speed tiers of Juubi arc at least.

Yata can stop all things, well yes but even then it need time to expand to cover all 360 degrees not just front and it takes time as well as requires reaction of wielder which if not enough make way to bypass this defence for super fast characters or space time users.
 
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Yata Mirror couldn't block Itachi's disease
 
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