Even if you dont like Sakura.....

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Lol like they could do it.he's way too powerful for them.
 

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Do you think I don't know that?! The whole point of that fight was for Hinata to change herself, and she did. Her not being able to do it in the beginning doesn't matter, because, surprise surprise, she had character development in that fight, and by the end had enough of a back bone to stand up to Neji and defend herself against Neji bad mouthing her. Sakura didn't do that to sasuke

Your logic is wrong. You said Hinata stood up for herself against Neji... Okaaay, so? what's your point?

Flashnews: Hinata never loved Neji!

Sakura stood up for herself too against Ino, Naruto, Sai, the sound ninjas in the forest of death, sasori...

She wasn't able to defend herself against Sasuke but guess what, if Naruto had spoken to Hinata the way Sasuke had spoken to Sakura, let me tell you Hinata would have cried in fetal position, because all of her selfconfidence is based on whatever Naruto thinks of her.

You need to compare apples with apples...
 

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Your logic is wrong. You said Hinata stood up for herself against Neji... Okaaay, so? what's your point?

Flashnews: Hinata never loved Neji!

Sakura stood up for herself too against Ino, Naruto, Sai, the sound ninjas in the forest of death, sasori...

She wasn't able to defend herself against Sasuke but guess what, if Naruto had spoken to Hinata the way Sasuke had spoken to Sakura, let me tell you Hinata would have cried in fetal position, because all of her selfconfidence is based on whatever Naruto thinks of her.

You need to compare apples with apples...

Why do we all argue these points when we will never agree. :(
 

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Kishi just ruined Sasuke's, Sakura's, Kakashi's and Hinata's character in one chapter. Wow, It's getting pretty pathetic now.
 

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Kudos to Crystal Chakra for veering the thread towards Hinata, when no one was talking about her. Kudos.

OP: No, I don't. They deserved this blunt remark. Sharingan made Kakashi, he IS useless without it, and Sakura, despite her medical prowess cannot accomplish anything.
 

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Stop spreading shit! Hinata stood up to Pein all on her own without any back-up or instant healing ability. Sakura froze in fear in the kamui dimension when her byakugo wasn't activated and there was no back-up (Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi) for her. She only acted tough coz she knew physical attacks won't hurt her and if Madara tried sumn else team 7 would save her. Hinata was alone, no healing, no back-up, and didn't back down against the God of Ame.

Please, tell me where was Sakura's back-up when she was defenseless against three Sound's ninja in the forest of Death? They were hiding behind bushes... She didn't even know she was going to get helped after Lee had passed out. When that ninja girl grabbed her by the hair and one of them said they will kill Sasuke she did everything she could to save him, even after watching what they did to Lee. She knew she was outmatched but she decided she would rather die protecting Sasuke than watch him get hurt.
 

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Why do we all argue these points when we will never agree. :(

Fortunately, we don't need to agree, logic is not an opinion. She was insinuating that Hinata has more back bone than Sakura by comparing Hinata's interaction with her cousin and Sakura's interaction with the man she loves. I am just pointing out that this is not a valid argument, because you need to compare the right stuff.
 

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Please, tell me where was Sakura's back-up when she was defenseless against three Sound's ninja in the forest of Death? They were hiding behind bushes... She didn't even know she was going to get helped after Lee had passed out. When that ninja girl grabbed her by the hair and one of them said they will kill Sasuke she did everything she could to save him, even after watching what they did to Lee. She knew she was outmatched but she decided she would rather die protecting Sasuke than watch him get hurt.

There's no point in arguing with you, you're just a troll. You're just going to take me on a long goose chase by jumping around and switching around different issues. You were trying to discredit Hinata's will to stand up for herself by saying that she needs encouragement from a man, I prove that wrong and then you quickly run away from the thing all together to another irrelevant point. By the way, standing up to a bunch of sound genin is nothing compared to standing up to the God of Ame. The gap is literally as big as the gap between heaven and earth (Pein god complex and godly powers and all). And guess what, it was Lee who gave her the courage to do that anyway, she'd been on the verge of giving up before he intervened.
 

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dont you just want her to punch Sasuke in the face just once. Just 1 hit, doesnt even have to be very hard, just knock him off his ass.

No matter how true his statement was about them being useless, what he said was completely uncalled for.

I think this is a setup for a very nice moment where Sakura and Kakashi make him eat his words.

Coming from someone who really doesn't care about either one of them, it would be nice to see that.
 

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Kishi just ruined Sasuke's, Sakura's, Kakashi's and Hinata's character in one chapter. Wow, It's getting pretty pathetic now.

I wouldn't say ruined but it felt like they took 2 steps back.
 

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Lol, no. Sasuke was telling the truth-better for her to know her place now than get herself killed later on.
 

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There's no point in arguing with you, you're just a troll. You're just going to take me on a long goose chase by jumping around and switching around different issues. You were trying to discredit Hinata's will to stand up for herself by saying that she needs encouragement from a man, I prove that wrong and then you quickly run away from the thing all together to another irrelevant point. By the way, standing up to a bunch of sound genin is nothing compared to standing up to the God of Ame. The gap is literally as big as the gap between heaven and earth (Pein god complex and godly powers and all). And guess what, it was Lee who gave her the courage to do that anyway, she'd been on the verge of giving up before he intervened.

when did I ever say that Hinata needs encouragement from a man to stand up for herself? NEVER! You got the wrong person here, please read carefully before answering, otherwise i'm gonna start to believe you're the one who's ''trolling''... And I never said Sakura's determination wasn't inspired by Lee either...

And by the way, comparing Pain and those Sound's ninja brings absoluetly nothing to the discussion because both Hinata and Sakura were no match against their oponants. There's no point in arguing which opponant was stronger, it was obviously Pain.The point is Hinata would never stand up for herself against Naruto... Sorry, but that's the truth. Plus, I never said that Hinata isn't brave, but Naruto is her soft spot just like Sasuke is Sakura's soft spot.
 

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Sasuke has always been so, he needs a lesson, because he is to arrogant.
 

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I would put him in an arm bar and break his shoulder and elbow
 
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