Establishing Why Naruto > Edo Madara

[DemonicAvenger]

Unfortunately you were only able to see apart of my post. It usually happens when your overconfident in your logic. Based on what the manga says about Naruto's capable of jutsu and technique wise in One round of Bijuu mode because of the limit of chakra Kurama can supply in a single go VS What Edo Madara is able to Tank, and what he can survive. Also:

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I have already flawed your OP without even countering it. Also to note, Your OP is basically hypothetical situations in Naruto's favor but many members won't see that because your using terms like "Shunshin" to sound canonically intellectual. Your not listing factual counters but Assumptions implied to your Hyp-Situations and severe underestimating Edo Madara and his potential. :b

I've never seen a post so long but with no content.

Kurama stated they could go for 5 minutes. The skirmish with the Bijudama isn't last anywhere near 5 minutes and we know it wasn't a chakra problem since Naruto went on robust far more Chakra the next go round.

Your post that supposedly "flawed" mine. Has no base.

 

[Zato]

I didn't even read what you had to say and really I don't have to. Madara has all of Hashirama's Mokuton powers and on top of that he has all of the Rinnegan powers and his own EMS powers. Madara would stomp Naruto out. If Kishi wanted to he could have Madara go ape sh*t on Naruto and pull out all the tricks. BM Naruto can't even beat EMS 9 tailed Madara...

 

[Waltz]

I've never seen a post so long but with no content.

Kurama stated they could go for 5 minutes. The skirmish with the Bijudama isn't last anywhere near 5 minutes and we know it wasn't a chakra problem since Naruto went on robust far more Chakra the next go round.

Your post that supposedly "flawed" mine. Has no base.

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[DemonicAvenger]

That was a result of both encounters. Not just the one.

I didn't make the thread under the assumption that Naruto could keep up BM forever.


And the typo's in the post you responded to are bothering me. This iPod is getting on my nerves.

*Biju , *didnt last

The first time he used used BM was agains the Biju's. I doubt you even know what I meant when I said it wasn't a chakra problem.

 

[Waltz]

That was a result of both encounters. Not just the one.

I didn't make the thread under the assumption that Naruto could keep up BM forever.

I didn't know you were kurama. Why are you making things up?

 

[DemonicAvenger]

I didn't know you were kurama. Why are you making things up?

I'm sorry simple logic can't reach you.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Chapter 571:
-Naruto goes Bijuu Mode for the first time.

Chapter 572 - 597:
-Naruto rests

Chapter 597:
Naruto goes bijuu mode again.

Chapter 611:
-He rests again.

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Simple logic that can't reach you. It clearly wasn't because of both activations.

 

[Waltz]

I'm sorry simple logic can't reach you.

You mean your logic? Well the manga Disagrees. Kurama Mentioned nothing about the prior Transformation which only lasted 5 minutes. After the Inital BM Transformation Kurama had more than enough time to recuperate his chakra.

-> Naruto had a talk with obito about learning 9 names
-> Edo Tensei was realeased
-> Kakashi, Guy and Naruto had some melee attaks on the Gedo
-> Obito fed it the Sealing pot an guard
-> The Chapter Proginator
-> Naruto attacked Obito with a rasengan in Kyuubi mode (which he deflected with the gunbai)
-> Then Naruto used BM Again

This is several chapters as Meido listed. As i stated prior kurama didn't mention nothing about the prior transformation, being a fact that he ran out of chakra. He was just at his limit for one go:

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[Omnipotent]

Isn't EMS Madara enough to be above BM Naruto?

Do remember that BM Naruto only has a time limit of eight minutes as of now...

 

[nakumaru]

Chapter 571:
-Naruto goes Bijuu Mode for the first time.

Chapter 572 - 597:
-Naruto rests

Chapter 597:
Naruto goes bijuu mode again.

Chapter 611:
-He rests again.

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Simple logic that can't reach you. It clearly wasn't because of both activations.

They turned off Biju mode after They defeated the Biju, probably because there was no point to BM against Toni and KM would have served just as well.

This is apparent since when he turned it back on the used far more chakra. Than against the Biju

 

[DemonicAvenger]

You mean your logic? Well the manga Disagrees. Kurama Mentioned nothing about the prior Transformation which only lasted 5 minutes. After the Inital BM Transformation Kurama had more than enough time to recuperate his chakra.

-> Naruto had a talk with obito about learning 9 names
-> Edo Tensei was realeased
-> Kakashi, Guy and Naruto had some melee attaks on the Gedo
-> Obito fed it the Sealing pot an guard
-> The Chapter Proginator
-> Naruto attacked Obito with a rasengan in Kyuubi mode (which he deflected with the gunbai)
-> Then Naruto used BM Again

This is several chapters as Meido listed. As i stated prior kurama didn't mention nothing about the prior transformation, being a fact that he ran out of chakra. He was just at his limit for one go:

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:b​

I read the chapter on ***********, Kurama never mentioned a previous transformation.

But whether your right or wrong doesnt apply here. In this thread, I'm considering Naruto at his current level.

 

[Waltz]

They turned off Biju mode after They defeated the Biju, probably because there was no point to BM against Toni and KM would have served just as well.

This is apparent since when he turned it back on the used far more chakra. Than against the Biju

Nope.

This is why. Time limit:

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If you notice here:

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The same thing happens here:

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The bold also doesn't make logical sense being that obito has already countered KM. Why would naruto hold back and use a mode that he already knows is counter-able by his opponent? I Don't think he's that dumb.

I read the chapter on ***********, Kurama never mentioned a previous transformation.

But whether your right or wrong doesnt apply here. In this thread, I'm considering Naruto at his current level.

What did i say in my initial post about being over-confident in your logic? And you have nor have stated any proof that Naruto currently has more chakra than the last time he transformed for 8 minutes, which is the kyuubi's limit according to the manga. You've already lost the essence of your Argument.

 

[MyOwnVengence]

Ehh, Good Points. I agree. Naruto should win this.

I'm starting to regret getting banned now. This forum like its full of Maddy wankers.

@Puppy

The second part of your argument is baseless. If this "current" Nauto. Then ts already Canon that he can keep it up for 8 minutes while doing everything he already did.

 

[MyOwnVengence]

Good thread. I agree.

Although I'm regretting getting banned cuz it seems like this forum is full of Maddy wankers.

@puppydog

Your post is essentially irrelevant. Current Naruto is cannonacally able to do everything he's already done and then some

 

[MyOwnVengence]

I agree Naruto takes this

@puppy

You post is essentially irrelevant. Naruto is already cannons lot able to what he's done. That's indisputable.

 

[MyOwnVengence]

I agree. Naruto takes it.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Your post is essentially irrelevant. No matter which translation is correct, it's already Canon that Naruto can do what he already has.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Your post is essentially irrelevant. No matter which translation is correct, it's already Canon that Naruto can do what he already has.

Yes it's true he can sustain BM for 8 minutes. But you actually think Naruto can beat Madara in under 8 minutes?

It would be more plausible if it was 8 hours, or even 8 days.

 

[Waltz]

Your post is essentially irrelevant. No matter which translation is correct, it's already Canon that Naruto can do what he already has.

It would be useless and at most, illogical for naruto to start in anything but Bijuu Mode being that Edo Madara could easily defend and survive against anything he is capable in his prior modes. Though Naruto possesses the abilities listed in your OP Canonically, Once he initally begins in bijuu mode, he can't perform all of that in 8 minutes (after which he is useless) based on the prep time for certain techniques and the recharging of others like Sage mode also the fact that it would be a drawn out battle, which contradicts your entire post claiming that he could actually do so. You should just give it up.