Establishing why: Nagato > Kirābī

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Nagato Uzumaki vs. Kirābī | 長門うずまきvsキラービー

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  • Basic Manga Knowledge.
  • The location is where Naruto fought Nagato and Itachi.
  • Starting distance is 35 Meters.
  • Their intent is to kill.


Taming the Beast | 獣を飼いならす

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In all honesty, countering 's techniques won't be hard for someone like Nagato and I'll prove that by starting off with Nagato's counter to the Rariatto. As we know Rariatto was able to rip open both Sasuke's and Kisame's chests. [ ][ ] However he only managed to do this because of the fact that he activated his Gyūki Cloak to gain more power in his Rariatto. [ ][ ] This won't be an option here due to Nagato's Fūjutsu Kyūin which has shown the ability to stop Gyūki Cloak Rariatto before. [ ] Bī's Rariatto will only manage to make Nagato stronger. Heddo Batto would fail against Nagato as well.

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Sumi Bunshin no Jutsu or Sumi Clouds won't be able to do anything against Nagato mainly due to Shinra Tensei which would blow away the Sumi Bunshin or the Sumi Cloud with ease. [ ] Or to counter them even more easily, all Nagato has to do is take flight on his Chikushōdō Bird and the Sumi Bunshin nor Clouds won't be able to reach him since they lack the ability to fly. [ ] Honestly, Nagato doesn't even require the bird for this since he has shown to have the ability to fly via Tendō. [ ] Now before anyone says how Bī could try to use the Sumi Bunshin or the Sumi Cloud on Nagato in order to sneak up on him and deal him a blow that would kill him, but that's basically impossible for two reasons. First of all, Nagato and his summons share their field of vision [ ] so Nagato would see what the Chikushōdō Animals see. [ ] He already countered Bī's sneak up attack once with this tactic. [ -> ] And to ruin Bī's small chance of pulling off a sneak attack, Nagato is a sensor as noted when Itachi said that Nagato is able to sense other people's Chakra so he'll simply sense Bī's Chakra just like Kisame did and counter his attack. [ ]

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The only thing that base Bī has in his arsenal that could possibly hurt Nagato is his Kenjutsu mastery. [ ] However these blades won't really be a problem to Nagato due to Shuradō Armor. [ ] Bī's swords are rather weak and they can be easily broken. [ ] It's doubtful that they can do anything to Nagato's Shuradō Armor and no, Raiton won't help since it would be absorbed by Gakidō. [ ] Also let's not forget that Nagato can always blast Bī with a Shuradō Cannon if he gets too close. [ ][ -> ] Bī's only chance would be throwing the swords at Nagato, but all Nagato has to do is use his Chikushōdō Panda to block them. [ ] Basically Bī will have to rely on Samehada which Nagato can end rather quickly. All he has to do is use Banshō Ten'in to pull Samehada away from Bī's grasp and while it's flying towards him, he needs to kill it with Shuradō Rockets. [ ] It's that simple.

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Since Bī can't hurt Nagato in his base form, he will be forced to change into his Gyūki Bijū Mōdo. While in that form, Bī could try to hurt Nagato with his Bijū Hachimaki technique, however that won't work on Nagato because of two reasons. Not only can he fly so he won't be caught in it, he could also use a big Shinra Tensei to blow away Bī and seperate himself from him. [ ] But I doubt that it will come down to that since Nagato can fly off as soon as he sees the Gyūki start to spin. [ ] With Bijū Hachimaki being unable to kill off Nagato, the only option left is the Bijūdama which can be countered in several ways;

  • Breaking Bī's focus would be one of those ways. As we know, Bī needs to focus in order to charge up a Bijūdama since he needs a 8:2 ratio. [ ] In the manga, we have seen that Bī was concentrating while making a Bijūdama. [ ] Some could say that Bī could just blast off multiple Bijūdama just like he did in the manga, but even when he did that, he needed to concentrate in order to make those Bijūdama before blasting them off. [ ] Since Bī needs time to charge up a Bijūdama, all Nagato has to do is use his Banshō Ten'in to pull away the Bijūdama from Bī while he is still making it and then it will explode. [ ] Or Nagato could simply drop a giant boulder on him while he is charging it up just like he did to Kurama. [ ] And of course Shuradō Cannon can be used here as well.

  • Blowing away the Bijūdama would be the second way of countering it. We have seen in the manga that Naruto countered the multiple Bijūdama by blowing them away with his Chakra Tail. [ ] Nagato can do the same thing here just with his Shinra Tensei. [ ]

  • Absorption would be the third and last way Nagato has of countering the Bijūdama. Nagato can absorb any Ninjutsu that comes into contact with his Gakidō orb. [ ] It probably will take a little more time than usually to asborb the Bijūdama, but Nagato can use his Chikushōdō Animals to buy him time just like against Jiraiya. [ ]

All in all, Nagato will counter every last one of Bī's techniques.


A God's Wrath | そして、神の怒り

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Killing Bī won't be hard for Nagato if Bī is in his base form. A simple Shuradō Cannon will take care of him in his base form since it was able to destroy buildings. [ ] Basically Bī will have to use his Gyūki Cloak in order to survive. However, unfortunately for him, all Nagato has to do is use Banshō Ten'in to attract Bī to himself [ ] and then finish him off wth Ningendō's Kyūkon no Jutsu. [ ]

Of course, to avoid being killed by this, all Bī has to do is enter his Gyūki Bijū Mōdo. However, then he would be an even easier target for Nagato due to the fact that he would be big and not very fast. Nagato can simply make his Chikushōdō Animals attack Bī. He has Chikushōdō Cerberus which will multiply every time Bī hits them just like they did against Jiraiya. [ ] And that Cerberus can split itself into new ones and those new ones will multiply as well when Bī hits them. Sooner or later the battlefield will be full of Chikushōdō Cerberus Dogs which Bī cannot put down and they will rip him apart.

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To make things even worse for Bī, the Cerberus Dogs aren't Nagato's only summonings. He has more Chikushōdō summonings such as the Rhino, Bird, Ox and the Centipede. The Rhino and the Bird can be used to pierce Bī and as we have seen, Bī doesn't deal well with piercing attacks. [ ] Both the Rhino and the Bird have a strong enough piercing attack. [ ][ ] The Ox itself can keep on pushing and hurting Bī [ ] while the Centipede can restrain him. [ ] With the Cerberus Dogs and all the other summonings, Nagato will easily be the victor against Bī.

If Nagato wants to end this quickly, all he has to do is summon the Gedō Mazō and then he can simply use the Chakra Dragon to take away Bī's soul [ ] and since Bī is too big and the Chakra Dragon is too fast, he won't be able to evade it. [ ]


Winner: Nagato Uzumaki | 勝者:長門うずまき

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You wasted your time stating the obvious.
 

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this was rather obvious, but I guess sometimes people fail to understand the even the most straightforward outcomes.

Some users still fail to understand genjutsu and chakra disruption
 

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Nobody wouldn't belive if you didn't this threat
 

Shura

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But.. People said that Bee can solo Nagato.. Where are all those people now..? ._.
 

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But.. People said that Bee can solo Nagato.. Where are all those people now..? ._.

I don't remember anyone saying that, but i've seen people say that it's high diff for Nagato or either way.
 

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I don't remember anyone saying that, but i've seen people say that it's high diff for Nagato or either way.

TheAncientCenturion said that and some other members.. But I don't really remember their names honestly. (._. )
 

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Attempting to win everyone over is impossible here on NB. The majority agreed nagato is stronger infact nagato makes top 5, bee is in top 15.
 

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TheAncientCenturion said that and some other members.. But I don't really remember their names honestly. (._. )

Have you read your own thread (._.)

Edit: My post didn't go through. Depending on Gakido, it could go either way. I personally believe the "Infinite Gakido" arugment to be fallacy, so IMO Bee High Diff.
 

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This was far too obvious. You wasted your time creating this thread (although kudos to you for the amazing formatting).
 
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