Establishing why MS Kakashi is immune to tsukuyomi

[RedRobin]

That wasn't even Itachi and he couldn't even use MS that was a regular genjutsu you fail.

Its still genjsutu that Kakashi would have countered in the same way lol.

 

[Javaweb]

The Blood thing is what allows Uchihas to awaken the MS. Itachi didn't think it was possible for a non-Uchiha

The thing is Kakashi didn't awaken the MS. Obito did because he had Uchiha blood and his eye was connected to Kakashi.

 

[Styles]

Clearly you didn't read the whole thing my friend

I know that was a Kakashi clone but that Itachi wasn't the real one and he couldn't use MS only regular jutsu's

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Its still genjsutu that Kakashi would have countered in the same way lol.

But it wasn't Tsukuyomi Kakashi cannot escape that.

 

[Bogard]

The thing is Kakashi didn't awaken the MS. Obito did because he had Uchiha blood and his eye was connected to Kakashi.

According to Obito he did

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Besides it doesn't matter anyway as long as he masters his Mangekyou. Like Itachi said you can cast genjutsu on people with similar eyes.

Only Sharingan can counter Sharingan
Only MS can counter MS
Only Rinnengan can counter Rinnengan

And Kakashi showed great mastery over his MS during this war

 

[RedRobin]

But it wasn't Tsukuyomi Kakashi cannot escape that.

Dude its still visual genjsutu, replace that genjustu with Tsukuyomi, same thing happens. Kakashi counters with shadow clone.

 

[Styles]

Dude its still visual genjsutu, replace that genjustu with Tsukuyomi, same thing happens. Kakashi counters with shadow clone.

Yea like he would be able to make a clone in time before he is hit with it.
but a Tsukuyomi wouldn't work on a shadow clone.

 

[RedRobin]

Yea like he would be able to make a clone in time before he is hit with it.
but a Tsukuyomi wouldn't work on a shadow clone.

lol he does right there right under Itachi's nose. Yes it would.

 

[Styles]

lol he does right there right under Itachi's nose. Yes it would.

He made that shadow clone when that fake Itachi shot that fireball or when Kakashi used hidden mist.

 

[King Lelo]

I wonder what would have happened if Itachi saw Tobi's MS n noticed it's the same as Kakashi. I guess Kishi covered his ass with Kakashi being unable to use his MS in his teens before the massacre, otherwise Itachi was gonna investigate and we all know where that could lead to

 

[Kamui Sama]

He made that shadow clone when that fake Itachi shot that fireball or when Kakashi used hidden mist.

Hidden mist was filler. Anyway, tsukuyomi would only work if Kakashi looked into Itachi's eyes or if Itachi forced eye contact. That isn't going to be easy considering Kakashi is an expert at clone feinting himself and can go underground. The counter to tsukuyomi is basically canon lol

 

[ARGUS]

Kakashi should be able to break tsukuyomi, if and only if, he got hit by it whilst his MS is activated,, otherwise he would fall prey to it just how he did in part 1,
either way, he is NOT immune, he can just counter it,

 

[Minator93]

I sincerely believe that War-Arc Kakashi who has mastered his MS to the highest degree can counter the Tsukuyomi but there are few parts of the thread I sadly disagree with.

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^^ This was actually an Illusion, an illusion we saw Sasuke get out of [in reality Itachi let him]

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Zetsu Actually thought Itachi had won because he believed Itachi hit Sasuke with Tsukuyomi

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Itachi later played the card "

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" giving Sasuke the fake confidence which he needed Sasuke to have and in doing so he tricked Zetsu who later on told Tobi about this fight and then Tobi told pain that Sasuke's "eyes" will surpass Itachi's which never ended up happening, Sasuke's eyes are in some lab, whereas Itachi's eyes awakened the Choku Tomoe and later on Rinnegan.

Here's why I say that Itachi let him break it, Itachi used the "prolonged" Tsukuyomi as opposed to the "instant" Tsukuyomi.

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Kakashi however can counter it, just as he countered Obito's MS Jutsus capable of controlling every bijju in an instant

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[Bogard]

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I sincerely believe that War-Arc Kakashi who has mastered his MS to the highest degree can counter the Tsukuyomi but there are few parts of the thread I sadly disagree with.

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^^ This was actually an Illusion, an illusion we saw Sasuke get out of [in reality Itachi let him]

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Zetsu Actually thought Itachi had won because he believed Itachi hit Sasuke with Tsukuyomi

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Itachi later played the card "

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" giving Sasuke the fake confidence which he needed Sasuke to have and in doing so he tricked Zetsu who later on told Tobi about this fight and then Tobi told pain that Sasuke's "eyes" will surpass Itachi's which never ended up happening, Sasuke's eyes are in some lab, whereas Itachi's eyes awakened the Choku Tomoe and later on Rinnegan.

Here's why I say that Itachi let him break it, Itachi used the "prolonged" Tsukuyomi as opposed to the "instant" Tsukuyomi.

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Kakashi however can counter it, just as he countered Obito's MS Jutsus capable of controlling every bijju in an instant

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It's what i thought as well until i saw Sasuke's Rinnengan instantly dispelling infinite tsukuyomi without time issue. He was never affected by it. His Rinnengan dispelled the genjutsu instantly. So it seems that prolonged or not, the MS or above allows to break tsukuyomi instantly. Sasuke struggled because he didn't have MS, but the variation of Sage Mode(CM) made up for it

 

[shelke]

There is nothing in the manga to support this. Sasuke broke out of Itachi's Tsukuyomi, and the databook backs it up as well. Kakashi lacks the second condition to break out of it.

I don't agree.

 

[Bogard]

There is nothing in the manga to support this. Sasuke broke out of Itachi's Tsukuyomi, and the databook backs it up as well. Kakashi lacks the second condition to break out of it.

I don't agree.

Sage Mode boost all your characteristics(nin-gen-taijutsu). CM is a variation of it. It boosted Sasuke's Sharingan genjutsu/counter-genjutsu capabilities to the point of matching MS skills without MS. Without CM, he wouldn't have been able to break it with a simple Sharingan. He needed MS for it, something that Kakashi possessed and mastered

 

[shelke]

Sage Mode boost all your characteristics(nin-gen-taijutsu). CM is a variation of it. It boosted Sasuke's Sharingan genjutsu/counter-genjutsu capabilities to the point of matching MS skills without MS. Without CM, he wouldn't have been able to break it with a simple Sharingan. He needed MS for it, something that Kakashi possessed and mastered

He never used CM against Itachi to boost his sharingan. Unless you have proof, then it's just speculation. I don't think so. Itachi backed this up way back that Sasuke has the capability to beat Itachi. Back then, he only had two Tomoe Sharingan. After mastering 3 Tomoe and exhibiting mastery over his eye, he did just that.

Kakashi can never truly master MS. It's just you speculating again.

 

[Bogard]

He never used CM against Itachi to boost his sharingan. Unless you have proof, then it's just speculation. I don't think so. Itachi backed this up way back that Sasuke has the capability to beat Itachi. Back then, he only had two Tomoe Sharingan. After mastering 3 Tomoe and exhibiting mastery over his eye, he did just that.

Kakashi can never truly master MS. It's just you speculating again.

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Kishimoto even directly put the implication of CM during that moment

And it's obvious Kakashi mastered his MS during this war. Obito said as much and his feats shows that much

 

[shelke]

He did [

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Kishimoto even directly put the implication of CM during that moment

And it's obvious Kakashi mastered his MS during this war. Obito said as much and his feats shows that much

That never happened in real world.

Mastered his Sharingan to the extent a non-Uchiha can. Time and time again, we have seen that only the one who actually posses the eye and awakens it, has true mastery over it. Obito couldn't control even one Rinnegan, and outright stated that only the eye holder can use it fully.

I don't know why you keep denying this.

 

[cafe123]

No
Itachi let Sasuke out of his Tsukyomi
Tsukyomi > all

Lol, without any proof. Sasuke broke out of it, that's manga facts.

 

[Unorthodox]

he didnt master shit kakashi only looked good because of naruto during this war he failed to get rid of gedo mazo twice tsukuyomi one shots