Establishing why Ay can beat Itachi (IF HE HAS KNOWLEDGE)

[King Of Crows]

Sure.. That's why i gave Ay knowledge... He knows Itachi's susanoo can't be used for more than 5 minutes lol and about the finger genjutsu.. It can be countered with High chakra releases (Chiyo and sakura saved Naruto with that) and AY has more chakra than base Naruto so he can free himself of it

Proof of this ? When Itachi used his Susanoo it was at the end of an extremely strenuous fight. One which he spammed amaterasu, Genjutsu, and several other jutsu's. How does that equate for him being able to only use Susanoo for 5 minutes overall ? He's was damn near exhausted when he pulled out final Susanoo. Don't be an idiot. Itachi's chakra control made up for his low stamina.

I'm not one to intervene in these kinds of threads ( wrong section btw ), but OP seems like an ass when trying to argue.

 

[Cursed Prince]

Sure.. That's why i gave Ay knowledge... He knows Itachi's susanoo can't be used for more than 5 minutes lol and about the finger genjutsu.. It can be countered with High chakra releases (Chiyo and sakura saved Naruto with that) and AY has more chakra than base Naruto so he can free himself of it

You actually need a chakra "surge" That is something Ay cant do if he's already in Lightning Armor... then Totsuka blade GG

 

[ballerjordan]

Ay with knowledge would win eventually.

 

[EZQ]

Proof of this ? When Itachi used his Susanoo it was at the end of an extremely strenuous fight. One which he spammed amaterasu, Genjutsu, and several other jutsu's. How does that equate for him being able to only use Susanoo for 5 minutes overall ? He's was damn near exhausted when he pulled out final Susanoo. Don't be an idiot. Itachi's chakra control made up for his low stamina.

Itachi would be more exhausted after a battle with Ay than after a battle with Hebi Sasuke... He would try to use amaterasu but Ay would keep dodging... The same with tsukuyomi.. Also after Sealing Orochimaru the susano dissapeared that's my proof on how short is Itachi's susano in time

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

You actually need a chakra "surge" That is something Ay cant do if he's already in Lightning Armor... then Totsuka blade GG

How could the Totsuka Blade hit the fourth fastest character in Naruto?

 

[King Of Crows]

Itachi would be more exhausted after a battle with Ay than after a battle with Hebi Sasuke... He would try to use amaterasu but Ay would keep dodging... The same with tsukuyomi.. Also after Sealing Orochimaru the susano dissapeared that's my proof on how short is Itachi's susano in time

That's not proof at all. :| He used Susanoo after essentially exhausting his chakra, after the fight. That does not at all mean he can only use it for 5 minutes. Did you even read my post, or do words confuse you ? Comparing Itachi and Sasuke is not a bright move. Itachi's intelligence far surpasses Sasuke's, who was not exactly in an emotionally stable state in his fight with Ay. Tsukyomi isn't something you spam. He just needs to make eye contact, and Ay is finished. ( If you truly believe Ay can counteract being entrapped within Tsukyomi )

 

[GreenBeast]

Itachi points his index finger GG

Stupid posts like this smh

 

[King Of Crows]

Stupid posts like this smh

Idiocy is prevalent on NB. Whether it is spam worthy posts like that, or stupid threads, there is no end to them.

On a side note:

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Sleepy time. :gn:

 

[GreenBeast]

That's not proof at all. :| He used Susanoo after essentially exhausting his chakra, after the fight. That does not at all mean he can only use it for 5 minutes. Did you even read my post, or do words confuse you ? Comparing Itachi and Sasuke is not a bright move. Itachi's intelligence far surpasses Sasuke's, who was not exactly in an emotionally stable state in his fight with Ay. Tsukyomi isn't something you spam. He just needs to make eye contact, and Ay is finished. ( If you truly believe Ay can counteract being entrapped within Tsukyomi )

He compared heibi sasuke to ay........... you ****ed up.

 

[EZQ]

That's not proof at all. :| He used Susanoo after essentially exhausting his chakra, after the fight. That does not at all mean he can only use it for 5 minutes. Did you even read my post, or do words confuse you ? Comparing Itachi and Sasuke is not a bright move. Itachi's intelligence far surpasses Sasuke's, who was not exactly in an emotionally stable state in his fight with Ay. Tsukyomi isn't something you spam. He just needs to make eye contact, and Ay is finished. ( If you truly believe Ay can counteract being entrapped within Tsukyomi )

You missunderstood what i meant:

- Itachi would suck up all his chakra in his battle with Ay (using susano form te beggining would be stupid for him because he has low chakra reserves) So when he finally has to use susanoo it would last as much or less as it did against Orochimaru

 

[King Of Crows]

He compared heibi sasuke to ay........... you ****ed up.

I am well aware of that. I was comparing Itachi's intelligence to Sasuke's because he said that Itachi would make the same moves as Sasuke. :| If your too stupid to provide proper input, don't bother posting.


@OP: Am going to sleep, VM me if you wanna talk, since no one else can say anything worth reading.

 

[VongolaX]

Your 4-5th scan proves why A would falter to itachi, itachi's crow technique is perfect to place amatersu on A's whole body or even tsukyomi.

Madara used a standard sharingan genjustu, tsuyomi would kill him.


Let's not forget these factors kcm naruto with just reflexes:

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Now itachi with reflexes against kcm naruto and bee:

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Itachi was being controlled too, and many people forget this..

Itachi would know all of A's moves before he can even do them, just like he did to naruto, bee, dsm kabuto, and nagato.

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I'm no itachi fanboy, but akatsuki members such as obito, itachi, nagato, and kisame(bee couldn't beat him) are well above kages like A

 

[Europa]

Stupid posts like this smh

Last time I checked he has no dojutsu to break him out of genjutsu nor is he a sensor nor does he have Bunshins nor is Ay the smartest person in NV nor is he stated to have above average chakra control. So yes Itachi's finger genjutsu or dusk crow genjutsu or any genjutsu is GG

 

[Xāvî1]

Itachi also lacks stamina to fight him. So I agree with evidence. Itachi fanboys are coming hope you come prepared with evidence. ESPECIALLY for tosuka blade

i dont agree with you. both susanoo, amaretasu, tskyomi takes a lot of toll on the eyes a uses a huge amount of chakra. raikage can dodge amaretasu but not itachis tskyomi.

 

[GOD2U]

Itachi would lose. His susanoo probably couldn't even handle Ay's punch and by then itachi would just about be dead chakra wise non-edo.

 

[slimreaper]

You underestimate AY... Itachi can't make clones with susanoo... and a normal Itachi clone (without susano) is stomped by AY easely... Clones are weaker than main bodies

yes clones are weaker but the point is to distract ay. when he thinks hes killed itachi, a susanoo arm snatches him up and bits gg

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

yes clones are weaker but the point is to distract ay. when he thinks hes killed itachi, a susanoo arm snatches him up and bits gg

Ay will be too fast for that to happen though....

 

[Fodder#4]

Itachi can win this, he was capable of keeping up with KCM Naruto. Comparable to Ay's V1 speed. Itachi's reaction time and Susano'o will save him from certain demise.

Genjutsu can end this, as it's been shown he doesn't require eye contact for everything. Exploding clones are also a valuable tool.

 

[Sanguis]

full powered Itachi would use Tsukuyomi and its over.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

full powered Itachi would use Tsukuyomi and its over.

Tsukiyomi requires eye contact and Ay will be moving too fast for it to happen.