Establishing why 9yo Kakashi is a stronger ninja than current Sakura

[Bogard]

Doesn't impress me. He has experience with fighting along side Minato before and knew that Minato sensed their enemy before-hand, which was followed by Minato throwing out his Hiraishin marked Kunai into specific directions. It was not hard to realize that Minato was throwing kunais to the directions of their enemy.​

Minato never threw those kunais at the enemies. Re-read the manga. He threw them to cover kid Kakashi against the enemies kunais [

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[Shura]

Minato never threw those kunais at the enemies. Re-read the manga. He threw them to cover kid Kakashi against the enemies kunais [

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Even more simple. The kunai blocked the shuriken from specific directions, telling Kakashi from where did the shuriken came, giving him knowledge on the enemy's position. Once again, it's not that much of an impressing feat. Sakura had absolutely no experience fighting a puppet master, more so a puppet master of Sasori's caliber and was still capable of analyzing his attack pattern along with the feat of being capable of understanding and analyzing what Obito did to escape their attacks.​

 

[Bogard]

Shockwaves can kill. The fact that he'll be blasted away by the shockwave into the nearby ground, tree, whatever would harm Kakashi greatly. The force of the impact with any solid object after he gets blasted away by such force will harm Kakashi greatly, if not kill him. At the very least, it would force him to wait for a few moments before he manages to recover from it and be capable of fighting again. Unless Sakura stands and watches, that isn't a scenario that has a chance of happening.

Rasengan? Elaborate. Either way, still doesn't put him on Sakura's level of Ninjutsu.​

A direct shochwave made by Kyubi [

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] and not only Kyubi's shockwave is greater but it was a direct attack on the contrary of the shockwave created by Sakura's punches that doesn't touch you directly since she hits the ground to create it, and depending on your distance, it wouldn't even phase you(if you're far enough). Naruto and Sasuke who were close to Sakura barely felt it.

That shockwave can't do significant damage, let alone kill

Concerning Chidori he created it because he failed to put his lightning affinity in the rasengan [

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Shockwaves can kill. The fact that he'll be blasted away by the shockwave into the nearby ground, tree, whatever would harm Kakashi greatly. The force of the impact with any solid object after he gets blasted away by such force will harm Kakashi greatly, if not kill him. At the very least, it would force him to wait for a few moments before he manages to recover from it and be capable of fighting again. Unless Sakura stands and watches, that isn't a scenario that has a chance of happening.

Rasengan? Elaborate. Either way, still doesn't put him on Sakura's level of Ninjutsu.​

other that her medical jutsu and CES she doesnt have any ninjutsu :|

 

[Shura]

A direct shochwave made by Kyubi [

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] and not only Kyubi's shockwave is greater but it was a direct attack on the contrary of the shockwave created by Sakura's punches that doesn't touch you directly since she hits the ground to create it, and depending on your distance, it wouldn't even phase you(if you're far enough). Naruto and Sasuke who were close to Sakura barely felt it.

That shockwave can't do significant damage, let alone kill

Concerning Chidori because he failed to put his lightning affinity in the rasengan [

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Kyuubi's shockwave is greater? No. Not a chance. A full Kyuubi's? Yes, but a three tail Kyuubi's? No. The best feat it has is crushing a simple bridge made out of wood while Sakura's shockwave managed to

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and blast away the Juubi Clones meters away in the air. More so, look at the size of the shockwave compared to the Juubi clones. These two shockwaves are not comparable. And you only make this easier for me considering that I don't remember early pages well, in the same exact scan you linked me to, such a simple shockwave managed to

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while Kabuto himself was harmed to the point where blood was spilling through his mouths and

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. The same thing will happen to Kakashi, however far, far more worse. Considering that shockwave was never aimed at Naruto and Sasuke as well as them being a good distance away, it's no wonder they didn't get hurt. However, here the shockwave shall be aimed at Kakashi.

The Rasnegan point is good, however it seems his Rasengan is weaker than his Chidori so can't say that it matters really.​

other that her medical jutsu and CES she doesnt have any ninjutsu :|

Does it matter? No. It's still Ninjutsu that is far above a nine year old Kakashi's simple Chidori.​

 

[Minator93]

Well I know that a 14 yo Kakashi would beat the living crap out of Sakura but after reading your thread I'm starting to think that yo're right. I mean the feats are canon and Kakashi with his Chidori, Sharingan, Speed and the most important thing his Intelligence and Experience. Sakura can't beat him since someone like Omoi beat her ass Neg Diff U_U

It's not that Sakura is weak, its just that Kakashi is that impressive!

 

[Bogard]

Kyuubi's shockwave is greater? No. Not a chance. A full Kyuubi's? Yes, but a three tail Kyuubi's? No. The best feat it has is crushing a simple bridge made out of wood while Sakura's shockwave managed to

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and blast away the Juubi Clones meters away in the air. More so, look at the size of the shockwave compared to the Juubi clones. These two shockwaves are not comparable. And you only make this easier for me considering that I don't remember early pages well, in the same exact scan you linked me to, such a simple shockwave managed to

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while Kabuto himself was harmed to the point where blood was spilling through his mouths and

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. The same thing will happen to Kakashi, however far, far more worse. Considering that shockwave was never aimed at Naruto and Sasuke as well as them being a good distance away, it's no wonder they didn't get hurt. However, here the shockwave shall be aimed at Kakashi.​

Kabuto didn't "barely" got up. He was just in a "wow" by this unbelievable chakra feat. We saw him later as if nothing happened. Sakura has weak durability feats from the start, so it's nothing new U_U

Naruto and Sasuke were at this distance [

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The Rasnegan point is good, however it seems his Rasengan is weaker than his Chidori so can't say that it matters really.​

Rasengan is just a chakra based attack. As long as you've chakra, you can create it when you already know the 3stages of course. I don't see how you can suggest his rasengan is weaker. Because he didn't use it? Even Adult Kakashi never uses it, but his rasengan has been shown to be on par with that of Naruto during training. It's just not his style, that's all. Don't also remember we barely saw Kid Kakashi on the contrary of Sakura who is far more developed, so you can't know what he really could do or not. The simple fact that we only heard later in the shippuden that he could also use rasengan as a kid shows he probably had more ninjutsus than you think

 

[Ovan]

The thread is funny. Kakashi at that time would not beat Sakura.

 

[dms_kakashi]

kakashis intellect alone lets him fight on par with opponents stronger than him. sakura has not mych analytical skill. the amount of knowledge sakura gained was simple. she said its either a image or if he can teleport his body he can teleport each part of body(minato can teleport top burlt cant teleport part)
everyone who fought him knew that(excluding raikage nd some fodders) with some time like fu and torune, minato, .
sakuras info wasnt useful. that was common but kakashi found out its true way.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Kabuto didn't "barely" got up. He was just in a "wow" by this unbelievable chakra feat. We saw him later as if nothing happened. Sakura has weak durability feats from the start, so it's nothing new U_U

Keep in mind Kabuto has auto healing abilities.
Um, even Sasori praised her endurance and durability. During her fight with Sasori, she was able to start healing herself even with a poisoned sword still lodged in her abdomen. And when she had been surrounded by Sasori's poison cloud she used an explosive tag to dispel the cloud of poison without sustaining much damage herself.

Also comparing the 3 tailed Kyuubi's shockwaves with the shockwaves of Sakura's punch is laughable at best.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Actually no, because base Sasuke was able to use the chidori, without his Sharrigan once, Kakshi cant really do it, and such high speed.

Base Sakura eyes > Base Sasuke's.

And besides, unlike Rin she can regenerate

 

[Bogard]

Actually no, because base Sasuke was able to use the chidori, without his Sharrigan once, Kakshi cant really do it, and such high speed.

Base Sakura eyes > Base Sasuke's.

And besides, unlike Rin she can regenerate

Kakashi could also use chidori without Sharingan. [

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] The problem isn't there. The problem is due to his sheer speed not allowing him to see the opponent's counter movements when running at high speed, and Sharingan was there to complete it

In this thread i consider Kid Kakashi with Sharingan anyway, so the one without drawbacks of his Chidori technique

 

[Fuzzy Panda]

We had to establish something like that..? Haha

 

[KingHashirama]

1 hand/singer solos

 

[Flawž]

Although i agree about kakashi being underrated, This is going too far.

Current sakura beats all forms of kakashi except adult kakashi.

 

[Optimistic]

No can give a solid counter.

Its official Kid Kakashi > Current Sakura

 

[TheEvilOne]

No can give a solid counter.

Its official Kid Kakashi > Current Sakura

AC pretty much soloed this thread.

 

[Amaterasuice]

While it's not technically "Canon", I might as well bring it up.

In Naruto Shippuden 4: The lost tower, it showed his stats at the age of ten.

Ninjutsu: 3
Taijutsu: 3
Genjutsu: 2
Intelligence: 4
Strength: 1.5
Speed: 3.5
Stamina: 2
Hand seals: 3.5
Total: 22.5

While Sakura when she was only 16 in the 3rd databook had these stats:

Nin: 3
Ta: 3
Gen: 3.5
Intelligence: 4
Strength: 3
Speed: 3
Stamina: 2.5
Hand seals: 4
Tota: 26

I'm pointing this out to help and hurt some of your points. For one thing, Sakura is a year older now so she would've gotten stronger. On the other, Kakashi would've been a year younger in this match up, so he would've been weaker.

It was basically comparing him to 13 year old Sasuke without cs2. That's what his stats are implying anyway. Though, stats aren't everything.

Either way, Kakashi is being overhyped here.

 

[Bogard]

While it's not technically "Canon", I might as well bring it up.

In Naruto Shippuden 4: The lost tower, it showed his stats at the age of ten.

Ninjutsu: 3
Taijutsu: 3
Genjutsu: 2
Intelligence: 4
Strength: 1.5
Speed: 3.5
Stamina: 2
Hand seals: 3.5
Total: 22.5

While Sakura when she was only 16 in the 3rd databook had these stats:

Nin: 3
Ta: 3
Gen: 3.5
Intelligence: 4
Strength: 3
Speed: 3
Stamina: 2.5
Hand seals: 4
Tota: 26

I'm pointing this out to help and hurt some of your points. For one thing, Sakura is a year older now so she would've gotten stronger. On the other, Kakashi would've been a year younger in this match up, so he would've been weaker.

It was basically comparing him to 13 year old Sasuke without cs2. That's what his stats are implying anyway. Though, stats aren't everything.

Either way, Kakashi is being overhyped here.

They don't seem right at all(like you said it's not canon). From the simple fact that it puts Sakura above Kid Kakashi in handseals for example when Kakashi has better feats than even part1 Sasuke(who should be better than current Sakura in the category since i don't remember her having great feats)

Like i've said, Kid Kakashi displayed outstanding/noteworthy feats even as a kid since he was capable to engage someone stated to be as fast as Kakko [

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This feat is particularly interesting especially when you know that someone like part1 Sasuke couldn't even perform the handseals and jutsu(Chidori) correctly without preparations [

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Yet Kakashi could use it in a run of CQC against a high speed taijutsu fighter

I'm still interested to know where you got those stats from Kid Kakashi please