Establishing that everyone who tried to manipulate Sasuke failed at the end

[Dantee]

Itachi:

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Although Sasuke is sort of acting the way Itachi always wanted. It wasn't done through manipulation, but because Sasuke wanted to. Before you go "Oh so then at the Itachi got what he wanted at the end gg"

Stop right there they are brothers after all so don't turn this into something it's not. Both love each other alot so Sasuke is only doing what's right. If you have any respect for Itachi you should respect Sasuke as well.


Itachi 1st tried to lie and be deceitful with manipulation and that backfired completely when Sasuke found out the truth. Even though Itachi had good intentions the way he went about it was completely wrong. Itachi's manipulation failed and was forced to tell Sasuke what really happened.

Oro failed

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Lel, people actually think Oro manipulated Sasuke at all? Sasuke wanted more power from the get go to get to Itachis level. Oros main goal was to take over Sasukes body.That never happened so Oro was a complete and utter failure. His plan backfired as well.

Obito failed

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Sure Obito got Sasuke to kill Danzo even though Sasuke wanted to. Obito did get him to grab part of the 8 tail however Obitos main goal with Sasuke was to sync him to gedo. Thus Obito failed as well. Sasuke used Obito to get to Itachi's eyes granting him more power. Alas Sasuke was never on his side to begin with as he stated he was using Obito.

Hashirama

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Lol, This is just for the Sasuke haters because no one in their right minds think a good man like Hashi was trying to manipulate someone into doing something they don't want to. A manipulator would lie about the details of events to try and sway others. Just like Obito and Itachi did.


Hashirama actually told Sasuke what really happened, and Tobirama being a blunt person as well only confirms that. If you really think Hashirama manipulated Sasuke into becoming hokage plz reread the manga. Sasuke made that choice on his own after hearing the full truth.

 

[Power Bottom]

Didn't zetsu manipulate him

 

[Dannie]

Nice indeed.

Everything is spot on like always.

 

[Dantee]

Didn't zetsu manipulate him

Zetsu and Sasuke have nothing to do with each other. Zetsu manipulated Uchiha with the tablet. Sasuke is the one who questioned it and tried to stop Madara. Thus Sasuke is above all Uchiha.

 

[take it easy]

all of these people's partially, successfully manipulate sasuke.

 

[Dannie]

all of these people's partially, successfully manipulate sasuke.

In the end Sasuke was above them all.

 

[Dantee]

all of these people's partially, successfully manipulate sasuke.

Theres no such thing. They all had their end goals but all failed. The only one who succeeded in getting what they wanted was Sasuke.

 

[TruthSayer]

Itachi did actually really well he made sasuke do almost exactly itachi wanted. The only thing he didn't do was return to the village a hero.

 

[ministerC4]

Theres no such thing. They all had their end goals but all failed. The only one who succeeded in getting what they wanted was Sasuke.

Lel, you serve a nice point.

 

[Dantee]

Itachi did actually really well he made sasuke do almost exactly itachi wanted. The only thing he didn't do was return to the village a hero.

I never said he wasn't manipulated just that the end goals never come to virtue. This is true but look at the lengths Itachi went to manipulate Sasuke only to fail.

 

[AllHailKurama]

Sasuke was the most easily manipulated Uchiha there ever was...not sure why you mentioned Hashirama at all though, do people actually think he manipulated Sasuke?

 

[Dantee]

Sasuke was the most easily manipulated Uchiha there ever was...not sure why you mentioned Hashirama at all, do people actually think he manipulated Sasuke?

I can already tell you plan on hating on Sasuke in this thread with that 1st line. Easily manipulated? Tell me more how easy it is to kill of your entire clan and family. Torture your younger brother 24 hours for two encounters and then fight him to death. That's easy manipulation?
Compared to Obito? Who only lost his crush

Madara: Bz only changed the writing on the tablet.

Itachi is the only one with comparable circumstances because he hardly had a choice.

 

[AllHailKurama]

I can already tell you plan on hating on Sasuke in this thread with that 1st line. Easily manipulated? Tell me more how easy it is to kill of your entire clan and family. Torture your younger brother 24 hours for two encounters and then fight him to death. That's easy manipulation?
Compared to Obito? Who only lost his crush

Madara: Bz only changed the writing on the tablet.

Itachi is the only one with comparable circumstances because he hardly had a choice.

I think you're misunderstanding me a bit...Sasuke was easy to manipulate, he was a blank canvas, as Itachi said. I'm not sure why you bothered listing the things Itachi did when he was a kid, that's irrelevant. He was easy to influence. Sorry to piss on your parade.

 

[I Don]

It was never a one sided total manipulation when it comes to Sasuke. He also made it very clear from the beginning of each deal with each of the people you listed that it's a mutual usage of each other. Those guys manipulated Sasuke and that's a manga fact, but it's also a manga fact that Sasuke too used them all to gain something.

 

[Dantee]

I think you're misunderstanding me a bit...Sasuke was easy to manipulate, he was a blank canvas, as Itachi said. I'm not sure why you bothered listing the things Itachi did when he was a kid, that's irrelevant. He was easy to influence. Sorry to piss on your parade.

You just said easiest uchiha ever. You should be more clear when you post. Blank canvas and easy to manipulate is two different things. It was relevant when you're the one who brought it up yourself.

 

[Chīkara]

Itachi did actually really well he made sasuke do almost exactly itachi wanted. The only thing he didn't do was return to the village a hero.

Which means Itachi failed.

 

[lucario14]

It was never a one sided total manipulation when it comes to Sasuke. He also made it very clear from the beginning of each deal with each of the people you listed that it's a mutual usage of each other. Those guys manipulated Sasuke and that's a manga fact, but it's also a manga fact that Sasuke too used them all to gain something.

I agree with this. In fact I would go so far as to say that sasuke got more out of their mutual usage. Oro's powers then his comradery later on, ems from itachi and help from obito to interrupt the kage summit and kill danzo. Maybe kaguya or black zetsu might target him next?

 

[Dannie]

Sasuke was the most easily manipulated Uchiha there ever was...not sure why you mentioned Hashirama at all though, do people actually think he manipulated Sasuke?

Wonder what Sasuke did to actually deserve that title?

I'm pretty sure that Obito fits this spot perfectly.
> Lost his crush Rin and decided to be a fake Madara only because Madara told him to
> Decided to activate IT only because Madara mentioned it and said it could end all suffering

Sasuke follows his own path and what he feels he should do and in the end he gets what he wants.

> He got Orochimaru's power and absorbed him In the end
> He was part of Itachi's defeat, heard his story from Tobi and still decided to not follow In his footsteps
> Sasuke never once mentioned working or being with Tobi and end the end he was only using Tobi

Madara is similar to Sasuke in a sense that he seeks power at any price. Itachi is the only one that was not particularly manipulated but when you compare him to Sasuke it's not that bad. Sasuke wanting to gain power and following whoever is possible to get it is not at all being manipulated. He is just trying to achieve what he wants at any means possible. Sasuke was willing to give his own body to Oro if it meant destroying Itachi but in the end he backstabbed Oro and absorbed him.

Sasuke is not the most manipulated Uchiha because he follows his own shit and way. Obito easily takes that spot.

 

[Bogard]

No one manipulate Lord Sasuke

 

[Remedy]

Itachi: Kill me.
Sasuke: I'll kill you!!!

Orochimaru: Seek me for power.
Sasuke: I'll seek you!!!

Obito: Itachi was good, Konoha made him suffer.
Sasuke: I'll crush Konoha!!!

They didn't try to manipulate him, they all did to a extent. Where you got the Hashi part from I don't know, that makes no sense.