[Theory] Establishing a New Kekkei Touta

[Hori]

Hello guys just thinking about something after I saw that lava rasenshuriken executed by Naruto.

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Because of that now I think Naruto is a new kekkei touta user. People think its a kekkei genkai which is not. If you look closely Naruto used 3 element together and fused them together to create a new element. Earth and Fire from lava and Wind element from Rasenshuriken.

Now before we move forward lets define

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. Yeah just follow those links if you wanna know their English translations. Now read below carefully as I convince you why I say its a Kekkei Touta

1. Its not a collaboration jutsu:

Wait..... wait I know most people would say no that is just a collaboration jutsu from naruto and the Son Goku like how Sasuke and Naruto used amaterasu rasenshuriken.

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When two or more elements/ jutsus are produced separately and then combined like how Sasuke and Naruto did back then its a collaboration, but when all comes and gets created at the same time with a new form like Onoki's dust release then its a Kekkei touta. Just a little provision of a few examples of colaboration jutsus

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[video=youtube;EHj3JrSLkPI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHj3JrSLkPI[/video]

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2. A new Element must be produced.

Yeah I know I kinda introduced this in point 1 but I think I should elaborate here a little. There are jutsus that become a mixture and those who become a solution. For example a jutsu that is a solution would be Onoki's dust release because jinton becomes a new element itself where we don't see any of earth, fire and wind. Actaully Naruto's Lava Rasenshuriken is composed of same elements as Onoki's particle style.. how ironic .

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Now when we look at naruto's new rasengan its effects are almost the same as Onoki's dust release effect just that Naruto's is a bit more sharper and more violent because of shape manipulation.

If we look at Naruto's new jutsu here:

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The lava(earth and fire) inhabits the core of the rasengan while the wind inhabits the outer of it... but when you go to the next page the lava core constantly scatters the lava to the outer layer as it is exploding, meaning the elements fuse even more there.

Well there is a difference beetween his and naruto's because one uses wind, earth and fire to create jinton but lava and wind to create the lava rasenshuriken... So I suppose I have cleared any misconception as to why Naruto's new lava rasenshuriken is a kekkei touta. Now if I missed any just reply there below and tell em what I missed and I'll try to explain it if I can.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Sorry about this!

 

[Tobi98]

No it's not, it's Lava boosted by Wind.

Like if you use Water and Wind at the same time it'll make a whirlpool (anybody as the potential to do this), but if you combine Wind and Water it'll create Ice (only some people can do this)

But I'll rep for making a well organized theory and for effort =D

 

[Hori]

Non of these are Kekke Touta

Please no way you can read all that in 2 mins....
OT: So you say everything here is not Kekkei touta even Onoki's dust release? Please stop trolling

 

[Cauzing]

It ain't kenkkai tota. Otherwise it would creat a whole new chakra element. Like Haku with Wind and Water to make ice

 

[Hori]

No it's not, it's Lava boosted by Wind, like if you use Water and Wind at the same time it'll make a whirlpool (anybody as the potential to do this), but if you combine like a Kekkei Genkai it'll create Ice (only some people can do this)

By your logic the explosion style of Baku is a normal jutsu to you because any ninja can explode people using paper bombs

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

Hahaha. Lol xD

 

[Apêx1]

I agree. There's no way a regular Yoton style can even 'burst' like that without the help of a Futon.

 

[FubukiShirou]

It's Lava boosted by Wind it's not a kekkei Tota

 

[Tobi98]

By your logic the explosion style of Baku is a normal jutsu to you because any ninja can explode people using paper bombs

That has nothing to do with my logic, I just said that he boosted the lava with wind. Naruto wasn't born with the ability to make Kekkei Tota and wasn't given any power that gives him that ability so it isn't kekkei tota

 

[Xlad]

I have to agree. Just because the word Futon isn't there doesn't that he didn't use Futon. An example would be when Naruto create Mini-Rasenshuriken. It didn't state Futon in there, yet he uses it.

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As Indraboi pointed out, there is no where lava would burst like that.

 

[Hori]

That has nothing to do with my logic, I just said that he boosted the lava with wind. Naruto wasn't born with the ability to make Kekkei Tota and wasn't given any power that gives him that ability so it isn't kekkei tota

Sasuke was not born with blaze release and yet he has it just like how Madara, Obito and Danzo are able to use mokuton. So would you say they don't have wood release just because they were not born with it?

I agree. There's no way a regular Yoton style can even 'burst' like that without the help of a Futon.

Yup... *_*

 

[Zorø]

I agree with this thread i was thinking the same thing reading it....so this means naruto is on a whole new level where he csn borrow any element from the bijuus and use it that is seriously OP.

 

[Tobi98]

Sasuke was not born with blaze release and yet he has it just like how Madara, Obito and Danzo are able to use mokuton. So would you say they don't have wood release just because they were not born with it?

Sasuke was given a power that gives him the ability (MS), Naruto was not. And if it is Kekkei Kota what element is it?

 

[Behemoth55]

So you say everything here is not Kekkei touta even Onoki's dust release? Please stop trolling

Onoki combine the Seishitsuhenka of Katon, Doton and Futon to create something new. But Naruto uses Futon and Gokūs Yōton-Chakra to enhance Rasengan.

The missing new name giving is the proof that the Senpō: Yōton Rasenshuriken isn't a Kekkai Tōta.

 

[Xlad]

Another thing. Using purely Lava to rotate in the same place wouldn't make sense. Wind is about the only element that creates a blade and maintains in the same place due its nature. It makes more sense that Wind has to be incorporated into the jutsu because Lava cannot operate the same way as would Wind.

 

[Hori]

Sasuke was given a power that gives him the ability (MS), Naruto was not. And if it is Kekkei Kota what element is it?

Its dust release I suppose... you saw the similarities I provided on the 1st post also why are you Ignoring the Madara, Obito and Danzo part?

I agree with this thread i was thinking the same thing reading it....so this means naruto is on a whole new level where he can borrow any element from the bijuus and use it that is seriously OP.

Exactly... Naruto produced lava and wind simultaneously.. which most people don't get. When Naruto uses that lava rasenshuriken he is doing the same thing Onoki, Muu, Madara, Obito and hashirama to when they use their kekkeis they combine their elements and use them simultaneously to create their new elements...

 

[Tobi98]

Another thing. Using purely Lava to rotate in the same place wouldn't make sense. Wind is about the only element that creates a blade and maintains in the same place due its nature. It makes more sense that Wind has to be incorporated into the jutsu because Lava cannot operate the same way as would Wind.

But there's wind in the jutsu, it's just not a KKG or KKT, it's basicly what Yamato and Naruto did against Kakuzu, but done by one person

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[Behemoth55]

Exactly... Naruto produced lava and wind simultaneously.. which most people don't get. When Naruto uses that lava rasenshuriken he is doing the same thing Onoki, Muu, Madara, Obito and hashirama to when they use their kekkeis they combine their elements and use them simultaneously to create their new elements...

Nope, you just don't understand that he can't combine Yōton and Futon without another Kekkai Genkai. Actually, it should be impossible to fuse a Kekkai Genkai with another Seishitsuhenka. Hashirama uses his Kekkai Genkai to combine Suiton and Doton. Onoki learned to create the dust-release "Jinton" with fire-release(Katon, earth-release(Doton) and wind-release(Futon).

However, even that's irrelevant, because the name of Narutos Jutsu is still Senpō: Yōton Rasenshuriken. A Kekkai Tōta on the other hand creates something new and independent out of three Seishitsuhenka(chakra-release).

Fire, earth, wind= dust

 

[Hori]

Onoki combine the Seishitsuhenka of Katon, Doton and Futon to create something new. But Naruto uses Futon and Gokūs Yōton-Chakra to enhance Rasengan.

The missing new name giving is the proof that the Senpō: Yōton Rasenshuriken isn't a Kekkai Tōta.

That's no proof its not, I suppose the name given to it was just a description of it. a kekkei genkai or touta is established when one can use 2 or 3 natures simultaneously now look at video below to jag up your memory:
[video=youtube;kT3aoHI6Fns]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT3aoHI6Fns[/video]
Now ask yourself didn't Naruto use 3 nature elements simultaneously?