TheTailedSage
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Deidaras victory
I understand this is a sensitive topic however i can explain why this is so. BTW IMO Kisame is one of the most badass Akatsuki members so im not being biased.
Anyone who has read my threads like this will know gifs are used for illustrating my points, weather they are canon or not is entirely irrelevant
C1 and Kisame/Samehada
Iv'e heard people say that Samehada slices the clay bombs and renders them useless but first off Deidara would have to be an idiot to let the bombs get that close in the first place and even One C1 bomb were to get sliced Deidara would know from that, that Kisame has a way to disable his Clay bombs. However there is a way round this.
By the command "Katsu" he is able to detonate his clay bomb now its because he can do this is why he has the advantage over samehada. By detonating it before it even gets within Samehadas range is a wise idea but an even better idea is since they are controlled projectiles, he is able to dodge Samehadas slices with ease giving the c1 size and agility. Kisames slices are sluggish but Samehadas compensates for that with its chakra absorption ability. This is negated by the C1. The blast of C1 is big enough to cause minimal damage on its own but several at the same time which Deidara is quite easily able to do will be causing a lot more damage. Escaping all the C1 bombs for someone with Kisames agility isn't very probable.
C2 and Kisame/Samehada
These bombs are a lot bigger thus reduces their ability to be "slippery" . The same "Katsu" principle applies. This blast is even bigger than C1 blast obviously and is able to make even more of an impact on kisame.
Blast
Their agility is amazing and even the blast was able to catch Hebi sasuke and it was only because of Sasuke speed as to why he evaded the blast AND because he "flew" upwards. Keeping in mind that these projectiles only took a small portion out of The C2 dragons tail and caused this level of explosion.
Even IF kisame Used colliding wave to elevate himself the blast is still too big but a small portion of the blast may be absorbed by the water. This is assuming he can create hand signs fast enough to remotely counter the agile dragon. If deidara decides to use the entire dragon then Kisame struggles to find a way to counter it. Like i said If not even sasuke could find a suitable counter for it giving he had the elemental advantage i dont see what Kisame can do.
C3 and Kisame
Its most likely He is going to use this if kisame Begins to give him much difficulty because since this takes up a lot of clay its more of a last resort jutsu. But if he is to use this i definitely don't see Kisame Evading or countering this. In order for Kisame to even come close to countering this level of jutsu requires a water source which he has to initially make. He wont be able to make this in time. Given the weight and velocity in which This travel at. Of course Deidara has to be high up to escape the blast giving Kisame a couple C2 or C1 bombs to take care of seals the deal.
C4 And Kisame
Kisame has absolutely no counter for this and has zero knowledge on its abilities. Just like Sasuke he will assume its going to be a big ass explosion. It was only because sasuke had sharingan is why he as able to counter it AFTER it exploded.
The sensible thing for Kisame to do THINKING its going to create a huge explosion is get cover or create a plan. When he see's it explode he will think its a dud just like Sasuke did and then think that Deidara failed most likely going to head back for tricking Kisame. He will then suffer the consequences of his actions.
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I understand this is a sensitive topic however i can explain why this is so. BTW IMO Kisame is one of the most badass Akatsuki members so im not being biased.
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Anyone who has read my threads like this will know gifs are used for illustrating my points, weather they are canon or not is entirely irrelevant
C1 and Kisame/Samehada
Iv'e heard people say that Samehada slices the clay bombs and renders them useless but first off Deidara would have to be an idiot to let the bombs get that close in the first place and even One C1 bomb were to get sliced Deidara would know from that, that Kisame has a way to disable his Clay bombs. However there is a way round this.
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By the command "Katsu" he is able to detonate his clay bomb now its because he can do this is why he has the advantage over samehada. By detonating it before it even gets within Samehadas range is a wise idea but an even better idea is since they are controlled projectiles, he is able to dodge Samehadas slices with ease giving the c1 size and agility. Kisames slices are sluggish but Samehadas compensates for that with its chakra absorption ability. This is negated by the C1. The blast of C1 is big enough to cause minimal damage on its own but several at the same time which Deidara is quite easily able to do will be causing a lot more damage. Escaping all the C1 bombs for someone with Kisames agility isn't very probable.
C2 and Kisame/Samehada
These bombs are a lot bigger thus reduces their ability to be "slippery" . The same "Katsu" principle applies. This blast is even bigger than C1 blast obviously and is able to make even more of an impact on kisame.
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Blast
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Their agility is amazing and even the blast was able to catch Hebi sasuke and it was only because of Sasuke speed as to why he evaded the blast AND because he "flew" upwards. Keeping in mind that these projectiles only took a small portion out of The C2 dragons tail and caused this level of explosion.
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Even IF kisame Used colliding wave to elevate himself the blast is still too big but a small portion of the blast may be absorbed by the water. This is assuming he can create hand signs fast enough to remotely counter the agile dragon. If deidara decides to use the entire dragon then Kisame struggles to find a way to counter it. Like i said If not even sasuke could find a suitable counter for it giving he had the elemental advantage i dont see what Kisame can do.
C3 and Kisame
Its most likely He is going to use this if kisame Begins to give him much difficulty because since this takes up a lot of clay its more of a last resort jutsu. But if he is to use this i definitely don't see Kisame Evading or countering this. In order for Kisame to even come close to countering this level of jutsu requires a water source which he has to initially make. He wont be able to make this in time. Given the weight and velocity in which This travel at. Of course Deidara has to be high up to escape the blast giving Kisame a couple C2 or C1 bombs to take care of seals the deal.
C4 And Kisame
Kisame has absolutely no counter for this and has zero knowledge on its abilities. Just like Sasuke he will assume its going to be a big ass explosion. It was only because sasuke had sharingan is why he as able to counter it AFTER it exploded.
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The sensible thing for Kisame to do THINKING its going to create a huge explosion is get cover or create a plan. When he see's it explode he will think its a dud just like Sasuke did and then think that Deidara failed most likely going to head back for tricking Kisame. He will then suffer the consequences of his actions.
Kisame jutsu
Lets talk a bit about Kisames jutsu though
Water dome
He is technically able to go air borne if he does this and can chase after Deidara but The speed in which it travels is most probably not as fast as Deidaras Bird. Keeping in mind his bird his his more agile transport. Deidara can simply use his special water C1 bombs to drop into the water dome and give Kisame a run for his money. Detonating them before he can get to the bombs and absorb the chakra out of them. Its probable to assume since he can morph the clay into animals he can do a C2 version of the fish, a shark if you will. The way it would be designed gives it agility under water and then gives kisame more to work with.
Water only intensifies the shock wave and the blast so putting Clay bombs in his water dome is giving Kisame a lot of trouble. If Kisame swims away the water dome follows him:
But like i said Deidara wont let him do this as this requires Kisame to use great colliding wave to initially set it up.
EDIT: Ive been hearing also that Deidara cant stop Kisame from using water dome. Bee was unable to stop it due to him being washed away by great colliding wave. Deidara can fly so this jutsu will not in the slightest affect Deidara and thus the C3 bomb continues to drop.
Hypothetically if its created and bombs are dropped inside this results in a sure-hit because he has to be the center of the dome so the bomb goes deeper and deeper in the dome and detonates when he gets close enough.
1000 sharks
Im not going to lie if Kisame could to do this (which is highly improbable since again he needs to create a very large water source e.g. lake size) Deidara would have to use an entire C2 dragon to Explode the amount of sharks. However there is a range in which the sharks can fly away from its user so deidara COULD fly away from them or upward until the range is then insufficient, thus the sharks turning in to normal water. Countering it would most probably be a last resort because just the size is overwhelming and Deidara is more than capable the out running them on the bird
Other Shakr jutsu
C1 bombs are more than enough to take out the other jutsu there snot much to say here.
If Deidara were low on clay
The smart thing to do in this case is to create an explosion to mask his presence briefly and then create a clay clone tricking Kisame or stalling Kisame until Deidara Has enough time to create more clay. This could take a while though and Deidara would have to make a plan B. The Clay has only been shown to destabilize if Raiton hits it which Kisame doesn't have. If deidara Stalls kisame by allowing the clone to Improvise then he may have enough time to gather enough clay. This is not very probable though since The elemental advantage sasuke had is not on Kisames side.
Dont get me wrong He puts up a very good fight.
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Water dome
He is technically able to go air borne if he does this and can chase after Deidara but The speed in which it travels is most probably not as fast as Deidaras Bird. Keeping in mind his bird his his more agile transport. Deidara can simply use his special water C1 bombs to drop into the water dome and give Kisame a run for his money. Detonating them before he can get to the bombs and absorb the chakra out of them. Its probable to assume since he can morph the clay into animals he can do a C2 version of the fish, a shark if you will. The way it would be designed gives it agility under water and then gives kisame more to work with.
Water only intensifies the shock wave and the blast so putting Clay bombs in his water dome is giving Kisame a lot of trouble. If Kisame swims away the water dome follows him:
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But like i said Deidara wont let him do this as this requires Kisame to use great colliding wave to initially set it up.
EDIT: Ive been hearing also that Deidara cant stop Kisame from using water dome. Bee was unable to stop it due to him being washed away by great colliding wave. Deidara can fly so this jutsu will not in the slightest affect Deidara and thus the C3 bomb continues to drop.
Hypothetically if its created and bombs are dropped inside this results in a sure-hit because he has to be the center of the dome so the bomb goes deeper and deeper in the dome and detonates when he gets close enough.
1000 sharks
Im not going to lie if Kisame could to do this (which is highly improbable since again he needs to create a very large water source e.g. lake size) Deidara would have to use an entire C2 dragon to Explode the amount of sharks. However there is a range in which the sharks can fly away from its user so deidara COULD fly away from them or upward until the range is then insufficient, thus the sharks turning in to normal water. Countering it would most probably be a last resort because just the size is overwhelming and Deidara is more than capable the out running them on the bird
Other Shakr jutsu
C1 bombs are more than enough to take out the other jutsu there snot much to say here.
If Deidara were low on clay
The smart thing to do in this case is to create an explosion to mask his presence briefly and then create a clay clone tricking Kisame or stalling Kisame until Deidara Has enough time to create more clay. This could take a while though and Deidara would have to make a plan B. The Clay has only been shown to destabilize if Raiton hits it which Kisame doesn't have. If deidara Stalls kisame by allowing the clone to Improvise then he may have enough time to gather enough clay. This is not very probable though since The elemental advantage sasuke had is not on Kisames side.
Dont get me wrong He puts up a very good fight.
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