Est Why KCM & BM Arent Boroowed Power

[Devauzamaki]

First, KCM

KCM is Naruto forcibly taking Kurama's chakra against his will, ithere's no borrowing going on.

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And BM

BM CANNOT be used if you have one without the other. if you have host but no bijuu? no BM. If you have Bijuu but no host? no BM. Having host and Bijuu is needed for BM to be achieved. Therefore Naruto himself, is a prerequisite for BM.

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[SenseiSama]

Huge amount of stamina is needed to control large amounts of chakra as mentioned in part 1. Uzumaki have the body to host bijuus with no side effects unlike the rest of NV.

 

[Ansatsuken]

BM only can be achieve if Host befriend with his Bijuu. Example: Killer Bee and Gyuuki before Naruto and Kurama and not like what you said above.

But KM can be say as using Bijuu chakra by force after subduing the Bijuu and creating special chakra reservoir.

 

[The Necromancer]

Probably the worst rationale behind this opinion.

 

[Magnolius]

Huge amount of stamina is needed to control large amounts of chakra as mentioned in part 1. Uzumaki have the body to host bijuus with no side effects unlike the rest of NV.

I don't know if this was filler or not, but in part 2 it is also suggested that not everybody can sustain a tailed beast in them. The host of Hachibi before Bee died because of Hachibi's overwhelming power. Yet a young Bee was able to contain the tailed beast.

 

[SenseiSama]

I don't know if this was filler or not, but in part 2 it is also suggested that not everybody can sustain a tailed beast in them. The host of Hachibi before Bee died because of Hachibi's overwhelming power. Yet a young Bee was able to contain the tailed beast.

Cloud village had to go through trial and error to find someone that could host 8 tails, on the other hand Uzumaki have no trouble finding someone from their own bloodline capable of hosting Kurama.

And a young Kushina was able to become jinchuuriki as well while Naruto was able to be one only a few minutes after his birth which is even more impressive.

 

[Mari Makinami]

Cool.

 

[Zavage10]

You can argue that kcm isn't borrowed , but BM not one bit. It is the truest form of a borrowed power.

 

[The Necromancer]

You can argue that kcm isn't borrowed , but BM not one bit. It is the truest form of a borrowed power.

This.

Kurama is literally handing Naruto power because they're buddies. No different than Sakura giving him Byakugou before a fight.

Bodily compatibility has nothing to do with whether or not a power comes naturally or not. Kabuto had a body that could handle 9 or more people's abilities, yet that doesn't change the fact that he had to leech off of 9 or more other people to become relevant.

 

[Nick01]

I agree, Naruto earned his power.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

I can agree with kcm, but fail to see what possessing the prerequisites have to do with borrowed power

 

[-immortal-]

Damn still trying to convince others this borrowed power isn' borrowed because its borrowed?

 

[Tyris]

didn't read.

was prolly good fanfic :kk:

 

[SSU]

The entire point of Ashura was to get stronger by being with others. He favoured teamwork and he had others to help him grow. Naruto is doing the same with Kurama.

 

[Uzumaki Death god]

Kcm and sage mode are definitely not borrowed power.BM on the other hand is debatable

 

[The Necromancer]

The entire point of Ashura was to get stronger by being with others. He favoured teamwork and he had others to help him grow. Naruto is doing the same with Kurama.

That doesn't mean it's not borrowed power.

It means that Ashura's and Naruto's abilities come directly from borrowed power, which is kind of the opposite point this thread is trying to make.

 

[lndra]

KCM is sort of what Sasuke does with the Rinnegan in a sense, but BM is a definite stretch. Lmao it even says in the DB that Naruto borrows power from Kurama in the Last version.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Befriending a bijuu is like signing a summoning contract. Should be considered as the user's power as the biju won't share their power otherwise willingly.

 

[The Necromancer]

Befriending a bijuu is like signing a summoning contract. Should be considered as the user's power as the biju won't share their power otherwise willingly.

Except summonings are borrowed power too.

Don't tell me you truly think Naruto can fight Shukaku by himself.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Nope, but a summon is considered as the extension of user's power cuz they summon them using their own chakra to fight on their behalf. Without the user summoning them the summons can't fight on the user's behalf and that's how a summon is not borrowed power.