[Discussion] Eric Garner

[Uzumaki Menma]

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Unlike Ferguson, this crime was blatant and unmitigated.

This goes to show that there IS something wrong with the system and cops are abusing their power and getting away with it. The narrative that cases like these are not inhibited with racism are just slanderous, ignorant forms of thinking.

Although it is blacks primarily making the news, this is not just about African Americans. Incidents like these show that nobody is safe from the police and they can get away with whatever they want.

This officer deserves to be prosecuted and thrown in prison for his murder of an innocent man.

As a country, we need to stand up and protest this unfair system which is allowing individuals of a certain profession to kill and murder our people.

 

[Joker]

Exactly, I didn't understand why he was dismissed, there was a video showing what happened, unlike with Mike Brown, we actually KNOW what happened, it wasn't a dispute of well witness one said this, or witness two said that, no. We saw it happen, poor guy died by suffocation by someone who's supposed to be protecting the citizens, not killing them.

 

[Kαmi]

Yeah it's pretty sad. It's clear that this man's "punishment" was undeserved. He wasn't doing anything that required violence and a banned chokehold. I'm pretty worried on the message that this sends to people. Even as an African-American, with Ferguson and Garner, it's showing that a cop can get away with what they please and seemingly not have to worry about any consequences. It shows that they can take the law in their hands to what they see fit and that's scary. These people are supposed to be our protectors but instead, they will soon be the people we fear if this continues.

 

[Umari Senju]

I agree. This looks like another white cop kills unarmed black man on the surface, but it really goes far beyond that. This is not going to be an issue of race....let me rephrase that,

this is NOT an issue of race. The guy could have easily had been white but the media is ridding the racial tension wave hard for the ratings. This is a blatant case of "cops can do no wrong" even when there are dozens of witnesses and video.

to make matters worse, one of the witnesses who recorded the incident was actually indicted for recording the cops doing their jobs.

Source: Associated Press

I mean really? Even dozens of videos depicting the same damn thing and another cop telling press himself that the cop clearly used an illegal maneuver that has been banned from NYPD's very own handbook and we get officials saying he didn't die from the chokehold but because he was fat?

Nevermind the guys had multiple cops pinning him down and the assailant clearly said several times he couldn't breathe then when he went lifeless and began turning purple no CPR was administered and nothing came of this?

This is going to get much worse....for EVERYONE regardless of skin tone, because apparently even cops are above the law.

There are sooooooo many things wrong with this i can't even......

 

[Romezio]

I think the cops actually knew this guy personally from previous encounters unlike mike brown and he was arrested 30 plus times before this incident. Im not saying he had to die but I dont think this was as race related as the ferguson case. I still think they still shouldnt have suffocated the dude though

 

[Umari Senju]

I think the cops actually knew this guy personally from previous encounters unlike mike brown and he was arrested 30 plus times before this incident. Im not saying he had to die but I dont think this was as race related as the Ferguson case. I still think they still shouldnt have suffocated the dude though

It wasn't 30 plus times but yes you are correct he was arrested several times before for the same thing. which is a misdemeanor. What was also mention and buried was that Garner was also known to mediated between troubled youth and other police officers due to his knowing both young assailants and cops from his own previous arrests and was known for defusing a number of situation that could have turned hostile as well.

But you are correct it was indeed excessive force. There were enough cops present to subdue him without choking him.

 

[Uzumaki Menma]

I think the cops actually knew this guy personally from previous encounters unlike mike brown and he was arrested 30 plus times before this incident. Im not saying he had to die but I dont think this was as race related as the ferguson case. I still think they still shouldnt have suffocated the dude though

Umm, no. Check your facts again.

He had not been arrested "30 plus times" before his death. He ran into the law twice before this scenario for selling cigarettes in New York illegally (because they're ten dollars + there). And this crime is a misdemeanor, not even a felony.

And his past behavior means absolutely nothing in this case because he showed no violence during the confrontation and it does not excuse what happened to him.

 

[Multiply]

The case shouldn't be considered as a race related case. It's simply the cops killing another citizen. Cops have been doing this for a while and people are finally catching on. This shit needs to stop and it's not just about race.

 

[Joker]

The case shouldn't be considered as a race related case. It's simply the cops killing another citizen. Cops have been doing this for a while and people are finally catching on. This shit needs to stop and it's not just about race.

It's really not, it's just the fact that it's a person in general that died because of a ****er abusing their power.

 

[Umari Senju]

The case shouldn't be considered as a race related case. It's simply the cops killing another citizen. Cops have been doing this for a while and people are finally catching on. This shit needs to stop and it's not just about race.

You are absolutely right. You can blame the media for drumming up the "race card" They know it will immediately raise blood pressures and gain them tons of ratings so they will play that angle up as much as possible.

This is more of a use of excessive force and cops getting off with not even a slap on the wrist for it. And you are right, people are just getting tired of it. I think people would be up in arms if the guys was Asain, Native American, or White. I know I would be. Clearly the cops have been taking things too far.

 

[Multiply]

You are absolutely right. You can blame the media for drumming up the "race card" They know it will immediately raise blood pressures and gain them tons of ratings so they will play that angle up as much as possible.

This is more of a use of excessive force and cops getting off with not even a slap on the wrist for it. And you are right, people are just getting tired of it. I think people would be up in arms if the guys was Asain, Native American, or White. I know I would be. Clearly the cops have been taking things too far.

Yeah dude. I hate the people that are just feeding into the hands of the media. Trying to debate that no one cares if a white man is shot by a black cop. Well, no one can protest over it because no one hears about it. The media is only highlighting specific cases to rile everyone up. They are adding flames to a race war that should not even exist.

 

[Donald Trump]

I'm starting to get sick of people just labeling every victim as "Innocent" or "doing nothing wrong." Please get it through your heads that this man was selling cigars, ok?

Besides that, I'm disappointing in the American justice system. This man was doing an illegal move on a guy who did not need to die. Contradictory to the Michael Brown case, we have proof that he was not attempting to attack police, rather, he was selling cigars and didn't want to be arrested. All they had to do was smack them out of his hand and tell him to keep it moving. I don't get why 4 guys had to get down on this man when he didn't hit anyone or pull out a weapon. It's just sad. Michael brown was one thing, but this is just too far.

 

[Luther]

RIP eric.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Population control.

 

[YowYan]

Looks like a group of hyenas closed in and attacked the buffalo successfully. Predators, they are. They, by law, do not serve the people. They serve the state. And this is what you get