Episode 65 - Worth watching

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I agree with all of the above.

The Jogan is a forced eye, I was kind of disappointed instead of devlop the Byakugan or focus on it they decided to pull a new dojutsu out of the rear end. They needed some way to hand out all spets of powerups it's ridiculous and doesn't even make sense.
It does make sense given who his mother is, who is father is, The Last: Naruto the movie and his role as the main character.

-It has ties to the aliens and his mother is a descendant of them who was carrying Hamura's chakra.

-His father is a transmigration of Ashura and considered his human side as Momoshiki would explain it.

-Sharingan and dojutsu that isn't Byakguan/Rinnesharingan are mutations. Jougan is potentially a new mutation

-He's the main character and has to have something unique about him.


It isn't forced because it has a potential role in the story given on the flash-forward between Kawaki and Boruto, Momoshiki reading his fate, and toneri's words. It isn't there just to be there. We just have no information on it because it's new and anyone who seems to have an idea about the eye and the karma seal happen to be evil.
 
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Which part was equal? .... The part where Boruto dodged Momoshiki - the part where Boruto steam hitted Momoshiki / While Kakashi who is much weaker was able to dodge it .... The part where Boruto outsmarted Momoshiki with clones. And Ofc Outpowering God lvl monster with Rasengan :bdpf:
-You're over-analyzing a filler episode

-Boruto dodged momoshiki with jougan activated and immediately got his clone killed.

-Multiple clones were using Boruto stream all at once, more than the amount he used against Kakashi

-Shadowclones have outsmarted god-like beings and expert tacticians throughout the entire manga. In that very episode, Naruto and Sasuke used basic Henge no Jutsu to trick Momoshiki multiple times.

-That Rasengan was powered by another god level monster.:bdpf:


None of that exchange was equal. Had it not been that Sasuke took away of of his rinnegan, Naruto giving Boruto a massive rasengan and his use of shadow clones he would have immediately been killed.
 
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It does make sense given who his mother is, who is father is, The Last: Naruto the movie and his role as the main character.

-It has ties to the aliens and his mother is a descendant of them who was carrying Hamura's chakra.
Not really otherwise Himawari would also have it.

-His father is a transmigration of Ashura and considered his human side as Momoshiki would explain it.

-Sharingan and dojutsu that isn't Byakguan/Rinnesharingan are mutations. Jougan is potentially a new mutation
Being a transmigrant of Ashura Naruto inherited what exactly? That doesn't cut the mustard mate, it would've been a new mutation had it not been recognised by Toneri and others.

-He's the main character and has to have something unique about him.
So a dojutsu which was pulled from the rear end becomes necessary got it.


It isn't forced because it has a potential role in the story given on the flash-forward between Kawaki and Boruto, Momoshiki reading his fate, and toneri's words. It isn't there just to be there. We just have no information on it because it's new and anyone who seems to have an idea about the eye and the karma seal happen to be evil.
The story of Boruto and Kawaki isn't a flash forward that's the current. If anything this is a flash back to explain the ass pulls which have 0 foreshadow.
 

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The Jogan is a forced eye, I was kind of disappointed instead of develop the Byakugan or focus on it, they decided to pull a new dojutsu out of the rear end. They needed some way to hand out all sorts of powerups it's(Jogan's existence) ridiculous and doesn't even make sense.
It works just fine. Adding things to simple Bayakugan at this stage wouldn't wash that well and we had seen too much of sharingan already. So something new is not bad and it fits with Kishi's eye fetish. Besides, it's not even the first time some Naruto character got some kind of special power up. + Rinnegan let's people jump through dimensions. And new villains are doing it. Hero must have something to match or he would be useless.
 
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-You're over-analyzing a filler episode

-Boruto dodged momoshiki with jougan activated and immediately got his clone killed.

-Multiple clones were using Boruto stream all at once, more than the amount he used against Kakashi

-Shadowclones have outsmarted god-like beings and expert tacticians throughout the entire manga. In that very episode, Naruto and Sasuke used basic Henge no Jutsu to trick Momoshiki multiple times.

-That Rasengan was powered by another god level monster.:bdpf:


None of that exchange was equal. Had it not been that Sasuke took away of of his rinnegan, Naruto giving Boruto a massive rasengan and his use of shadow clones he would have immediately been killed.
Same Boruto steam was used against Kakashi , you can check if you want. Two clones using the wind and pushing Boruto / same case what happened here. Kakashi was able to dodge / Momoshiki didnt :bdpf:

and dont call it filler.

Sasuke soloed that shit
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It works just fine. Adding things to simple Bayakugan at this stage wouldn't wash that well and we had seen too much of sharingan already. So something new is not bad and it fits with Kishi's eye fetish. Besides, it's not even the first time some Naruto character got some kind of special power up. + Rinnegan let's people jump through dimensions. And new villains are doing it. Hero must have something to match or he would be useless.
Which I would agree with however out of nowhere doesn't cut it, he could've activated it later as an upgrade or something. Getting a random eye right off the bat is what makes it out of place. Anyway Kishi wanted to give Boruto and Hima Byakugan eyes he forgot so Kodachi decided on this one

@bold: Why have him as a hero if he doesn't cut it without handouts and freebie's?
 

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Not really otherwise Himawari would also have it.



Being a transmigrant of Ashura Naruto inherited what exactly? That doesn't cut the mustard mate, it would've been a new mutation had it not been recognised by Toneri and others.



So a dojutsu which was pulled from the rear end becomes necessary got it.




The story of Boruto and Kawaki isn't a flash forward that's the current. If anything this is a flash back to explain the ass pulls which have 0 foreshadow.
-That's not how Mutations or genetics work. Otherwise Ashura would have received a dojutsu when he didn't.

-It being recognized doesn't mean it isn't a mutation.

-He inherited something from Naruto other than his appearance, whether it's his humanity "Son of man" or whatever.

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-It isn't an asspull. That's like calling sharingan's abilities or kurama asspulls. They pertain to the plot heavily and have reasons on why they exist.

-Not everything has a foreshadow.
 

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-That's not how Mutations or genetics work. Otherwise Ashura would have received a dojutsu when he didn't.
Flawed logic mate their power is split between the two sons of the sage. It underwent division instead of compounding to something stronger. Even Hogaromo and Hamura were a split of Kaguya's power instead of becoming something greater.

-It being recognized doesn't mean it isn't a mutation.

-He inherited something from Naruto other than his appearance, whether it's his humanity "Son of man" or whatever.
Of course it does that's why Naruto plays no part in it.

As for inheriting something from Naruto, appearance why else is he referred to as clone? Ontop of that man refers to mankind it's a shorter form. Here the word man is based upon classification by genus.

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-It isn't an asspull. That's like calling sharingan's abilities or kurama asspulls. They pertain to the plot heavily and have reasons on why they exist.

-Not everything has a foreshadow.
Not really conpareable as the Sharingan's abilities or Kurama's. They didn't pop out of thin air and were explored.

You're right when the MC isn't involved a foreshadow isn't required or necessary. With main characters though it's a different story altogether and if not foteshadowed it's ass pulled.
 
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Same Boruto steam was used against Kakashi , you can check if you want. Two clones using the wind and pushing Boruto / same case what happened here. Kakashi was able to dodge / Momoshiki didnt :bdpf:

and dont call it filler.

Sasuke soloed that shit
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it is filler at the end of the day though. None of these events, no matter how unbelievable or cool they were actually happened in the actual continuity.

Some of my favorite scenes are filler from both Naruto and Sasuke.

So there's little merit in over-analayzing and not taking them at face value.
 

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Flawed logic mate their power is split between the two sons of the sage.



Of course it does that's why Naruto plays no part in it.

As for inheriting something from Naruto, appearance why else is he referred to as clone? Ontop of that man refers to mankind it's a shorter form.

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-It isn't an asspull. That's like calling sharingan's abilities or kurama asspulls. They pertain to the plot heavily and have reasons on why they exist.

-Not everything has a foreshadow.[/QUOTE]

Not really conpareable as the Sharingan's abilities or Kurama's. They didn't pop out of thin air and were explored.

You're right when the MC isn't involved a foreshadow isn't required or necessary. With main characters though it's a different story altogether and if not foteshadowed it's ass pulled.
I will reply to this once you fix the broken format.
 

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This is by far the best Boruto episode. It's on par with the best Naruto episodes too. Loved it, probably gonna rewatch it later. Awesome nostalgic feeling, the whole fight was just... Pure class.
 

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Fixed not that your response will make much difference and now I'm off to watch the last 2 episodes:)
You're right given the fact you dislike Boruto to the point that getting an objective response from you is like pulling teeth.


Sarada using genjutsu with 1 Tomoe makes sense because you want it to, using Indra as a catalyst,

Boruto having jougan is a asspull despite multiple references in the anime and manga to his mother and hyuga genes.

Boruto using multiple nature releases is a asspull.

Sarada using multiple nature releases isn't.


You just don't like Boruto.
 
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Which I would agree with however out of nowhere doesn't cut it, he could've activated it later as an upgrade or something. Getting a random eye right off the bat is what makes it out of place. Anyway Kishi wanted to give Boruto and Hima Byakugan eyes he forgot so Kodachi decided on this one

@bold: Why have him as a hero if he doesn't cut it without handouts and freebie's?
He is the one series is named after.

Whether Kishi forgot or was not sure how to do it at the time doesn't mean much at this point. For, Naruto's power influencing and changing Bayakugan to jogan can explain the eye, anyway- Boruto is his son. I may not paying much attention but isn't the Toneri's bit was anime only addition? I don't remember the episode, but if manga contradicts anime I ignore anime version.

-That's not how Mutations or genetics work. Otherwise Ashura would have received a dojutsu when he didn't.
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Why some of you have this much problem in spelling Asura properly?
 
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He is the one series is named after.

Whether Kishi forgot or was not sure how to do it at the time doesn't mean much at this point. For, Naruto's power influencing and changing Bayakugan to jogan can explain the eye, anyway. I may not paying much attention but isn't the Toneri's bit was anime only addition?



Why some of you have this much problem in spelling Asura properly?
I'm stuck in my ways due to that being the first translation seen. Now that I googled Ashura on google images I no longer think of Hagoromo's son but instead blood and violence.
 

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I'm stuck in my ways due to that being the first translation seen. Now that I googled Ashura on google images I no longer think of Hagoromo's son but instead blood and violence.
I never saw that translation but grew up reading stories of Indra and wars with Asura. Every time I see it spelled as "Ashura" with extra H alarm goes off screaming "wrong"...
 

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You're right given the fact you dislike Boruto to the point that getting an objective response from you is like pulling teeth.
My points are always objective


Sarada using genjutsu with 1 Tomoe makes sense because you want it to, using Indra as a catalyst,
Irrelevant and it was never said one tomoe can't use the Rinnegan.

Boruto having jougan is a asspull despite multiple references in the anime and manga to his mother and hyuga genes.
Already addressed in my previous post.

Boruto using multiple nature releases is a asspull.
Off topic and to the level he does yes it's ass pull.

Sarada using multiple nature releases isn't.
Off course not she has a KKG that assists her and they're not high level skills. Also off topic and irrelevant.

You just don't like Boruto.
I don't like badly written characters.

I see your attempts to show an element of bias but there isn't any when I analyse.

I've just watched episode 64 now I'm off to watch episode 65.

Salamander's leaving you in peace. :bye:

He is the one series is named after.

Whether Kishi forgot or was not sure how to do it at the time doesn't mean much at this point. For, Naruto's power influencing and changing Bayakugan to jogan can explain the eye, anyway- Boruto is his son. I may not paying much attention but isn't the Toneri's bit was anime only addition? I don't remember the episode, but if manga contradicts anime I ignore anime version.
Except the manga also implies via bad writing that Boruto didn't inherit anything from Naruto. It would've made some sense but it's a load of mishmash at the moment which I doubt will ever get better.


Edit: anybody have a link to episode 65 the websites I'm visiting seem to be crashing.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Except the manga also implies via bad writing that Boruto didn't inherit anything from Naruto. It would've made some sense but it's a load of mishmash at the moment which I doubt will ever get better.


Edit: anybody have a link to episode 65 the websites I'm visiting seem to be crashing.

Thanks in advance.


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Chill and stop nit picking. I don't even remember where they said he didn't inherit anything. It's meaningless when he is wearing his jump suit right there, has whiskers and so on.
 
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