[Discussion] EOS Straw Hat pirates

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What will they be like? What powers will they have?
Setup:
I believe the crew will have divisions. However the subordinates of the important main characters will be unnamed and mostly fodder. They will only appear for maybe five or six chapters at the very end after a time skip after the foretold global scale war.

Strength levels:
Luffy = God tier (Like Roger and Whitebeard)
Zoro = Top of Top tier (Like Shanks)
Sanji = Middle of Top tier (Just above the Marine Admirals)
Franky = High tier (Comparable to Chinjao in his prime)
Robin and Brook = Roughly as strong as the current M3 are right now
Chopper = Roughly as strong as Vergo is right now (Vergo only beat Sanji because of his already broken leg)
Usopp = Comparable to Caeser and Monet
Nami = Comparable to Caeser and Monet
Violet (IF she joins) will be on par with Robin and Brook
Jinbe (IF he joins) will not really change in strength

Powers:
Luffy:
Luffy will have the strongest of all three types of Haki. And will be capable of gear stacking. Thus allowing him to use fire and lightning imbued attacks. At once. He will also be able to avoid side effects of gear stacking. On top of this he would increase his physical attributes many times over.

He would be able to use Hasshoken : due to the elasticity of rubber he could amplify his Hasshoken even further in order to create tremors etc.

Just imagine this:
Hasshoken Gomu Gomu no Jet Thor Elephant Gatling Hawk

Zoro:
Zoro will become a master of Busoshoku haki (above admiral level) and have admiral tier Kenbushoku haki.
His attacking and slashing power will have improved tenfold by this point. On top of this he will be capable of using either lightning within his swords (he can choose which).

Zoro will be able to cut diamond with ease. Zoro will be able to create hurricanes with his sword slashes (the force alone does this). Lastly: He will have Haoshoku haki MASTERED.

Sanji:
Sanji will become a master of Kenbushoku haki (above admiral level) and have low admiral tier Busoshoku haki. He will have even more variants of Rokushiki. E.g. he will have a mobile tekkai (like Jabra) with the capability of absorbing and then redirecting an impact etc. He would also be able to use Rankyaku (far beyond Lucci or Kakkus capabilities) and add flames to it when using hells memories. Soru will also be used by Sanji.

He can combine Haki and Rokushiki to create the worlds hardest and strongest legs. Full body armament + the strongest moving Tekkai + Flames of Hells memories + Diable Jambe. His legs will become extremely powerful.

Franky:
He will use even more pacifista technology. Spamming explosive lasers from his shoulders or eyes etc. He will become harder than a Pacifista: to top all of this off he will use both types of Haki to a high level (similar to Luffy now). He will have many technological advancements that we cannot even imagine.

Robin:
She will be able to spam clones of herself and use Busoshoku haki to the same level Luffy currently can perform at and low level Kenbushoku haki. She will also be able to make giant clones of herself and to disperse small amounts of limbs in order to avoid damage as she recieves damage if her limbs do.

She will be capable of a couple of Rokushiki moves. These being: Shigan , Tekkai and kami-e.

Brook:
Brook can use his devil fruit to take over other peoples bodies (leaving his body idol). And to communicate with the dead spirits. By consuming or absorbing spirits he becomes more powerful and larger. He will become even faster and use Shigan (piercing with his sword) and kami-e (light body makes him the worlds best user of this art). On top of that he will learn to use Kenbushoku haki to the level Luffy can currently use it. He will become faster than the current G2 Luffy and be able to use long distance sword slashes. To accompany ice (of hell) he would be able to use the flames of hell.

Chopper:
Perfect control of his monster point. He will learn to use both types of haki to a lower level than the others of the weak trio , but because he uses two types : he makes up for that. He will learn how to heal himself while in mid combat and become a fantastic support character.

Usopp:
He will learn to use Kenbushoku haki and be able to dodge attacks from close range and track down and hit targets moving very fast (even as fast as G2 Luffy). His pop green will also develop and evolve very quickly. Maybe some gigantic energy sapping plants would be of use.

Nami:
Her clima tact will improve even more , she will gain the ability to use Kenbushoku haki to a decent level.

Violet (IF she joins):
She will learn to use Busoshoku haki to a low level (her devil fruit is very similar to Kenbushoku haki). She will also increase in physical strength, stamina and speed.

She may be able to not only gain the sight of animals she creates with her eyes but also their abilities (except from aquatic animals) e.g. Echolocation and flight.

Jinbe (IF he joins):
No change. If anything he will have Busoshoku and Kenbushoku haki on a similar level to Vergo.
 

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Luffy: Rodger's level/WB's level

Zoro: Top like Mihawk/Shanks

Sanji: not far behind Zoro (level just above admirals)

Robin, Franky, Brook: Admiral equivalent levels or just below them

Jinbei: Either no real change, or one that puts him comparably just under Sanji

Violet: Comparable or minimally under Brook

Nami, Chopper, Ussop: Roughly around or just below the current M3.



It would be virtually impossible for the SH's to rule the New World if the majority of their forces stay below the level of the current M3... Because only Luffy is able to compete with Doflamingo, and honestly Doflamingo is still above him. Zoro and Sanji can't take Doffy.

To try and take on Yonko Crews or fight a war of the best... A small 10ish person crew needs Far more total strength IMO.



Abilities...

Luffy

Hard to say, but most likely a Gear 4 that fuses the scale of 3 with the speed of 2. I can't see him using lightning as Rubber naturally deters it (the entire reason Enel lost). He will have Fire, and masterful levels of Haki. The strongest Conqueror Haki.

Zoro

He will probably stay as a pure Swordsmen... No element. He will be able to cut through everything though. His final success being cutting through Diamond. Showing he has surpassed Mihawk. He will have the strongest Observation Haki. High level armament, and probably Rayleigh level conquer...nothing too powerful.

Sanji

The best Armament Haki. As you mentioned Some combination of that, full body Haki, Movable Tekkai, hell memories.

Robin

She'll be able to use clones as Pseudo Logia: meaning she can dissipate and reform parts about to be struck(clones only obviously). Very strong Armament Haki, and a master in Shigan (meaning both CQB and Ranged Shigan). She already has notable stealth. Probably Giant clones or at least giant Haki limbs.

Franky

Basically what you said. Extremely durable, more tech upgrades. Probably some homing beacon to call Shogun Franky to him on demand. Strong observation Haki. Will likely create some form of a Kairoseki armament to fight Logia or DF users.

Brook

Won't absorb souls... Not a SH move. But he will be able to posses people. Quickly able to switch bodies.He'll have great speed and strong ice based strikes. Strong Observation or Armament

Chopper

Mastery of Monster Point. A small degeee of being able to fuse some points (excluding Monster), strong Armament.

Ussop

Peerless marksmanship. More plant variety. Probably a degree of his old moves coming back. Strong armament.

Nami

Probably great control over weather. Or enduring favorable effects. Strong observation Haki.



The SH's have to make up quantity with Quality. WB's Division commanders at least up to Vista were handling Admiral level people on their own without distraction. While yes WB had allies in fights, Luffy will likely be less inclined to call allies until he goes to war with the WG. Ruin his free adventure in a way. Also remember WB's crew had divisions let alone allies... His family was huge. His division numbers outnumber SH members including the ship, Jinbei, and Violet (assuming they join). Just to better explain the rather high power levels.
 

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I really doubt every Strawhat will get Haki
 

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I could of sworn you've made this thread before in the past. Or am I tripping right now lol
 

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Na I think the low tiers will be around Vergo/VA's level EOS. That's one serious let down if they are at Monet's level, especially Usopp.
 

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I agree with all of them apart from Zoro having Conquerors Haki.
 

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You don't think Oda will make a Rayleigh parallel?

Nope.
I think Luffy will be the only one with it since I think its a requirement of some sort to get to Raftel.
Therefore, I only want Luffy gazing upon One Piece for the first time.
 

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Luffy: Prime Roger/WB
Zoro: WSM WB
Sanji: On par with Dragon/Mihawk/Shanks
Franky: Stronger than current Doflamingo
Brook: Stronger than current Doflamingo
Robin: Sronger than current Doflamingo
Chopper: Around current M3
Usopp: Around current M3
Nami: Around current M3


The reason I think the middle trio will be around current Doflamingo is because they can currently stomp the pre timeskip monster trio. Therefore, EOS they should be able to stomp post timeskip M3 trio. Current weakling trio should be able to tango with pre timeskip monster trio so the same applies to them for EOS to tango with current monster trio.
 

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What will they be like? What powers will they have?
Setup:
I believe the crew will have divisions. However the subordinates of the important main characters will be unnamed and mostly fodder. They will only appear for maybe five or six chapters at the very end after a time skip after the foretold global scale war.

Strength levels:
Luffy = God tier (Like Roger and Whitebeard)
Zoro = Top of Top tier (Like Shanks)
Sanji = Middle of Top tier (Just above the Marine Admirals)
Franky = High tier (Comparable to Chinjao in his prime)
Robin and Brook = Roughly as strong as the current M3 are right now
Chopper = Roughly as strong as Vergo is right now (Vergo only beat Sanji because of his already broken leg)
Usopp = Comparable to Caeser and Monet
Nami = Comparable to Caeser and Monet
Violet (IF she joins) will be on par with Robin and Brook
Jinbe (IF he joins) will not really change in strength

Powers:
Luffy:
Luffy will have the strongest of all three types of Haki. And will be capable of gear stacking. Thus allowing him to use fire and lightning imbued attacks. At once. He will also be able to avoid side effects of gear stacking. On top of this he would increase his physical attributes many times over.

He would be able to use Hasshoken : due to the elasticity of rubber he could amplify his Hasshoken even further in order to create tremors etc.

Just imagine this:
Hasshoken Gomu Gomu no Jet Thor Elephant Gatling Hawk

Zoro:
Zoro will become a master of Busoshoku haki (above admiral level) and have admiral tier Kenbushoku haki.
His attacking and slashing power will have improved tenfold by this point. On top of this he will be capable of using either lightning within his swords (he can choose which).

Zoro will be able to cut diamond with ease. Zoro will be able to create hurricanes with his sword slashes (the force alone does this). Lastly: He will have Haoshoku haki MASTERED.

Sanji:
Sanji will become a master of Kenbushoku haki (above admiral level) and have low admiral tier Busoshoku haki. He will have even more variants of Rokushiki. E.g. he will have a mobile tekkai (like Jabra) with the capability of absorbing and then redirecting an impact etc. He would also be able to use Rankyaku (far beyond Lucci or Kakkus capabilities) and add flames to it when using hells memories. Soru will also be used by Sanji.

He can combine Haki and Rokushiki to create the worlds hardest and strongest legs. Full body armament + the strongest moving Tekkai + Flames of Hells memories + Diable Jambe. His legs will become extremely powerful.

Franky:
He will use even more pacifista technology. Spamming explosive lasers from his shoulders or eyes etc. He will become harder than a Pacifista: to top all of this off he will use both types of Haki to a high level (similar to Luffy now). He will have many technological advancements that we cannot even imagine.

Robin:
She will be able to spam clones of herself and use Busoshoku haki to the same level Luffy currently can perform at and low level Kenbushoku haki. She will also be able to make giant clones of herself and to disperse small amounts of limbs in order to avoid damage as she recieves damage if her limbs do.

She will be capable of a couple of Rokushiki moves. These being: Shigan , Tekkai and kami-e.

Brook:
Brook can use his devil fruit to take over other peoples bodies (leaving his body idol). And to communicate with the dead spirits. By consuming or absorbing spirits he becomes more powerful and larger. He will become even faster and use Shigan (piercing with his sword) and kami-e (light body makes him the worlds best user of this art). On top of that he will learn to use Kenbushoku haki to the level Luffy can currently use it. He will become faster than the current G2 Luffy and be able to use long distance sword slashes. To accompany ice (of hell) he would be able to use the flames of hell.

Chopper:
Perfect control of his monster point. He will learn to use both types of haki to a lower level than the others of the weak trio , but because he uses two types : he makes up for that. He will learn how to heal himself while in mid combat and become a fantastic support character.

Usopp:
He will learn to use Kenbushoku haki and be able to dodge attacks from close range and track down and hit targets moving very fast (even as fast as G2 Luffy). His pop green will also develop and evolve very quickly. Maybe some gigantic energy sapping plants would be of use.

Nami:
Her clima tact will improve even more , she will gain the ability to use Kenbushoku haki to a decent level.

Violet (IF she joins):
She will learn to use Busoshoku haki to a low level (her devil fruit is very similar to Kenbushoku haki). She will also increase in physical strength, stamina and speed.

She may be able to not only gain the sight of animals she creates with her eyes but also their abilities (except from aquatic animals) e.g. Echolocation and flight.

Jinbe (IF he joins):
No change. If anything he will have Busoshoku and Kenbushoku haki on a similar level to Vergo.

There is no way the whole crew will use haki especially nami. Zoro and luffy will definitely make it to where you have them. Sanji will maybe be admiral level but most definitely top tier vice admiral level. franky, robin, brook, chopper, nami, and usopp will never make it to those levels... that would be terrible for the series. Oda clearly made it that instead of getting super strong the weak trio got really good with their skills and will never take out the admiral level characters. i can see robin getting a little stronger but she seems to be peaking, same with brook, he cant get that much stronger. Franky might get a little stronger but not admiral level
 

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Luffy: Prime Roger/WB
Zoro: WSM WB
Sanji: On par with Dragon/Mihawk/Shanks
Franky: Stronger than current Doflamingo
Brook: Stronger than current Doflamingo
Robin: Sronger than current Doflamingo
Chopper: Around current M3
Usopp: Around current M3
Nami: Around current M3


The reason I think the middle trio will be around current Doflamingo is because they can currently stomp the pre timeskip monster trio. Therefore, EOS they should be able to stomp post timeskip M3 trio. Current weakling trio should be able to tango with pre timeskip monster trio so the same applies to them for EOS to tango with current monster trio.

I'd be satisfied wit that. :cool:
 
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