Enton > Mokuton ?

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Okay you do know Mokuton is a KG right and you can't just become a hokage able to beat Madara with just a KG you have to have jutsu and so that simply means.
HASHIRAMA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SASUKE
Tell me about it...
Also to have KG it's not a win win situation in every single fight.
And lately I saw a thread about Sasuke's enton and some people believe it's also a KG, which I agree at some point.
 

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well sasuke did defeat zetsu which are = hashirama clones but they are degraded but then kabuto upgraded them so maybe, they are = hashi clones.

but that is as far as he can get.

EMS Sasuke < EMS madara < hashirama.
 

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It's not a lord sasuke thread ... sigh :sy:

I'm asking what are the chances for the 1s hokage to win this fight if his jutsu is useless even his medical ninjutsu...
Stop even making the comparison. Sasuke hasn't even shown that he's all that great even with his EMS, Kabuto in DS mode would've kicked his ass if Itachi wasn't there. Stop trying to turn Hashirama into a fodder ninja; if Kishi says he's the greatest ninja other than So6Ps how dare you claim otherwise, i mean it's Kishi's world after all. Stop with the BS and just enjoy the F***ing manga.
 

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well sasuke did defeat zetsu which are = hashirama clones but they are degraded but then kabuto upgraded them so maybe, they are = hashi clones.

but that is as far as he can get.

EMS Sasuke < EMS madara < hashirama.
Now that's not correct since Madara doesn't have enton. We cannot judge from that point.
 

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Stop even making the comparison. Sasuke hasn't even shown that he's all that great even with his EMS, Kabuto in DS mode would've kicked his ass if Itachi wasn't there. Stop trying to turn Hashirama into a fodder ninja; if Kishi says he's the greatest ninja other than So6Ps how dare you claim otherwise, i mean it's Kishi's world after all. Stop with the BS and just enjoy the F***ing manga.
You are free to leave if you don't like my threads anyway. Did I say somewhere that Hashi is fodder? No, I didn't. I just believe that enton it's a worse possible thing for hashi's jutsu and that it grants advantage for Sasuke to win this match up eventually. I just didn't want to make a wall of text explaining why i think that way.

So please stop crying
 

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Amatersu is definitely superior to Mokuton. It's basically hell fire and represents yin/sun. It spreads at an alarming rate. Wood is nature and is after all wood. And if Hashirama can spam it, then so can Sasuke. But this is just one technique. Hashirama probably has a lot of others at his disposal. So if you are talking about this ability alone, then I agree. But if you mean as a whole skill set, then we know Hashirama won against Madara - by a very very small margin though - and Sasuke is not any where near Madara's level.

For this particular skill Enon (Variation of amatersu) > Mokuton.
As a whole skill set Hashirama > EMS Sasuke.
 

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Stop even making the comparison. Sasuke hasn't even shown that he's all that great even with his EMS, Kabuto in DS mode would've kicked his ass if Itachi wasn't there. Stop trying to turn Hashirama into a fodder ninja; if Kishi says he's the greatest ninja other than So6Ps how dare you claim otherwise, i mean it's Kishi's world after all. Stop with the BS and just enjoy the F***ing manga
You mean Sasuke was actually fighting Kabuto? Wait, when did that happen?
 

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Mokuton spawns faster than Amaterasu can burn it.
Lol enton burns slowly while mokuton can be spawned much quicker..hashi > sasuke med difficulty at best.
While it is true Hashirama defeats Sasuke it is untrue that Enton burns slowly and that it Mokuton spawns faster.
If the Flames are focused it fabricates a greater flame and the flames burn quicker. The flames that burn at a slower rate than the focused flames are flames such as .
These flames are not focused on a specific point thus they . If you notice the flames spreading over Raikage's body was taking a very long time. The burned at a greater rate and .
From this one picture of Killer B being burn you can see that the flames are spread extremely quick and are also grand in size. I'm not saying that all Amaterasu's are greater than Blaze Release nor am I saying that All Amaterasu's Burn quickly and at a grand size but this one did because as you can see Sasuke was putting a great strain on the technique being his first time.
Amaterasu is Fire, it would only take 1 Amaterasu or 1 Enton attack to spread through the Entire Mokuton Technique.
 
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You mean Sasuke was actually fighting Kabuto? Wait, when did that happen?
the approach to the battle was different from both sides

Kabuto knew that they will not kill him , and he knew that he doesnt want to kill Sasuke


At first when Sasuke threw that Kunai , Kabuto knew that it is only worse for them if they kill him .



the fight begun when Kabuto turned on Sage mode . He was all over the place

if it wasnt for Itachi Sasuke wouldve been Captured



Sasuke had no time to Learn Kabuto's abilities if compared to the Danzo fight . - so he had no idea


when Kabuto used the blinding sound technique Sasuke stated that he is no longer able to support his Susanoo - so putting susanoo as your argument - idk it would not be legit i guess
 

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While it is true Hashirama defeats Sasuke it is untrue that Enton burns slowly and that it Mokuton spawns faster.
If the Flames are focused it fabricates a greater flame and the flames burn quicker. The flames that burn at a slower rate than the focused flames are flames such as these.
These flames are not focused on a specific point thus they burned slower. If you notice the flames spreading over Raikage's body was taking a very long time. The focused flames burned at a greater rate and greater size.
From this one picture of Killer B being burn you can see that the flames are spread extremely quick and are also grand in size. I'm not saying that all Amaterasu's are greater than Blaze Release nor am I saying that All Amaterasu's Burn quickly and at a grand size but this one did because as you can see Sasuke was putting a great strain on the technique being his first time.
Amaterasu is Fire, it would only take 1 Amaterasu or 1 Enton attack to spread through the Entire Mokuton Technique.
Pretty much this. During Sasuke and Itachi's fight, his amatersu burnt the whole surrounding trees. It would only take on focused Enton to spread through the created forest like wild-fire. Focused Amatersu flames definitely burn very fast. Hachibi's whole body was engulfed in flames very very quickly. It was only a few seconds.
 

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Yes,enton>moukton,moukton is wood which is a fuel,and enton is the highest level fire release,so wood would burn quite quickly,as seen when the little blobs of itach's ama that initially missed sasuke instantly engulfed an entire forest,ems sasuke's enton dosent burn slowly as seen when it instantly engulfed and smothered zetsu and his clones. However,hashi can create far more moukton than he can use enton and will eventually overwhelm him.

People who use madara as a comparison should stop as madara never uses amaterasu in his fights shown at all unlike sasuke who uses it and combines it with his susanoo,i dont think any moukton would be able to touch his susano,and dont forget that he can shape enton into a sword,spikes and so on,but wil eventually run out of chakra and be overwhelmed.
 
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