"Enton has no mass" lol

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The force it places on an object is dependent on its mass.

Either way, Katon is not gravity, so I'm not sure why you're mentioning it.
If it had no mass, why is it pushing him back?
ST is a technique that uses gravity to repel/push someone back, we're not discussing the gravity of the target we're discussing the technique itself
 
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And the force applied on the object is dependent on its mass, so mass is still a very large component of that.
Katon Justus don't function the same way ST does so what are you even talking about? You can say that about any technique that even has mass


Gravity doesn't have mass and can push people back that you point you tried to make doesn't work
 

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Katon Justus don't function the same way ST does so what are you even talking about? You can say that about any technique that even has mass
Gravity functions the same way as Katon does. The force inflicted on the object is dependent on mass except with gravity, it doesn't have mass and instead, it's force is dependent on the object's mass.


Gravity doesn't have mass and can push people back that you point you tried to make doesn't work
Your point doesn't work unless you can prove that Katon is similar to Gravity all of a sudden.
 

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Gravity functions the same way as Katon does.
:lol nice fanfic


The force inflicted on the object is dependent on mass except with gravity
But you just said

Gravity functions the same way as Katon does.
So what are you talking about?

It doesn't have mass and instead, it's force is dependent on the object's mass
Irrelevant for obvious reasons





Your point doesn't work unless you can prove that Katon is similar to Gravity all of a sudden.
Your point was once again "Welpz, hurp durr since Katon pushed him bakx den dat meanuz it gots Mass hur ha hur." I'm telling you that gravity can move people back despite having no Mass (if it's Massless that is)
 

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Katon functions like Gravity in the sole fact that its force is dependent on mass. That's a large component.

Katon's force displayed on an object does not depend on the object's mass, so how it repelled SM Naruto is because Katon actually has substance and mass which gravity doesn't.

But please, you have to prove that Katon is exactly like gravity if you want your point to stand. Right now, I think you're just arguing with me for the sake of arguing.
 

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Katon functions like Gravity in the sole fact that its force is dependent on mass. That's a large component.

Katon's force displayed on an object does not depend on the object's mass, so how it repelled SM Naruto is because Katon actually has substance and mass which gravity doesn't.

But please, you have to prove that Katon is exactly like gravity if you want your point to stand. Right now, I think you're just arguing with me for the sake or arguing.
It's like you just said eff everything he posted.


It doesn't matter if Katon has mass or not what does the OP say?


This is literally what you posted

Not true. Madara's Katon pushed back SM Naruto:



If it had no mass, why is it pushing him back?

Your point about me having to prove anything is moot because ST negates your point right there. ST has the ability to push people back despite gravity being massless. I don't have to prove anything. You're the one who said they function the same way not me
 

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It's like you just said eff everything he posted.


It doesn't matter if Katon has mass or not what does the OP say?


This is literally what you posted




Your point about me having to prove anything is moot because ST negates your point right there. ST has the ability to push people back despite gravity being massless. I don't have to prove anything. You're the one who said they function the same way not me
It doesn't because ST still depends on mass.

Please, just prove to me that Katon is similar to gravity. Right now, you haven't, so your point is moot. Just because gravity is massless doesn't mean Katon is.
 

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It doesn't because ST still depends on mass.

Please, just prove to me that Katon is similar to gravity. Right now, you haven't, so your point is moot. Just because gravity is massless doesn't mean Katon is.
Where did I say it was? So if that's the case what was point in asking this?

If it had no mass, why is it pushing him back?

And you wonder why I didn't bother to debate you. The question is not whether or not being pushed is due to a target's mass. The question is whether or not the technique has mass in which ST does not
 

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Where did I say it was? So if that's the case what was point in asking this?
Great, so why are you mentioning gravity as a means to prove that Katon doesn't have mass?

And you wonder why I didn't bother to debate you. The question is not whether or not being pushed is due to a target's mass. The question is whether or not the technique has mass in which ST does not
But you did the moment you asked that question.

As for my question you just quoted, I would actually like you to answer it before we debate further. If you can't provide a logical explanation, then Katon, a natural element in our universe possesses mass and thus exerts a force like any other object.
 

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The only time sasukes amaterasu(which is enton) had mass was when being combined with other techniques(chidori and its variants, susanoo arrow, or combination techniques). So it alone has no mass but when combined with other things it does
 

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Great, so why are you mentioning gravity as a means to prove that Katon doesn't have mass?
Who said I was? I asked a question

But you did the moment you asked that question.

As for my question you just quoted, I would actually like you to answer it before we debate further. If you can't provide a logical explanation, then Katon, a natural element in our universe possesses mass and thus exerts a force like any other object.
Here's the thing I'm not debating you. I just proved to you why you can't use the argument. The fact the you don't understand something so simple is sad beyond all comprehension.
 

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Super hot blade/plasma > regular blade.



Lightnings explosive power refined into a sword > fire that slowly burns. I understand it fine. Don't know why you can't. Now can you kindly **** off as I've told you multiple times I'm not interested.
lol. Nobody is arguing about which is stronger. you stupidly argued about enton lacking mass and comparing it to lightening like they are different. If lightening can be solidified in NV then fire doing the same is not unbelievable. hope you and the rest understand this.
 

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Katon functions like Gravity in the sole fact that its force is dependent on mass. That's a large component.

Katon's force displayed on an object does not depend on the object's mass, so how it repelled SM Naruto is because Katon actually has substance and mass which gravity doesn't.

But please, you have to prove that Katon is exactly like gravity if you want your point to stand. Right now, I think you're just arguing with me for the sake of arguing.
Lol I see you're putting a lot of effort but don't bother, CC never pays attention to scientific facts
 

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Here's the thing I'm not debating you. I just proved to you why you can't use the argument. The fact the you don't understand something so simple is sad beyond all comprehension.
I understand that point, but making that comparison with gravity is fallacious.

The only way you can disprove my argument is if you can prove that Katon repelled SM Naruto because of another reason other than it possessing mass. If you can't prove that, then your comparison using gravity holds no merit.
 

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The only time sasukes amaterasu(which is enton) had mass was when being combined with other techniques(chidori and its variants, susanoo arrow, or combination techniques). So it alone has no mass but when combined with other things it does
The example I presented had Sasuke forming his Arrow with only Enton.
 

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I understand that point, but making that comparison with gravity is fallacious.

The only way you can disprove my argument is if you can prove that Katon repelled SM Naruto because of another reason other than it possessing mass. If you can't prove that, then your comparison using gravity holds no merit.
Are you retarded? Gravity can push people back despite having zero mass
Fire has mass

I don't need to disprove anything as I never claimed anything
 
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