Entire K11 takes on SM Naruto

[BenjerminGaye]

Some things you guys need to remember, cuz the OP says Pein Arc:

1. Sakura didn't have Byakugo back then. She wasn't even confirmed to have Katsuyu summons. If she did, she totally didn't care about anyone in the village enough to use it to actually protect them instead of letting Tsunade do it all herself and go into Coma.

2. Shikamaru has trouble restraining sage chakra. He did so against Tayuya when she went into CS stage 2 (which is a weaker sage chakra, btw), and enemies have been shown to overpower him on numerous other occasions, such as when Gaara broke out of it without any trouble at all. There is NO WAY he can restrain SM Naruto with that.

3. Tenten's tools will have no effect. SM Naruto's durability is too high for him to even care.

4. Lee's speed pales in comparison to SM Naruto's reflexes. Remember: the true weakness of the 8 gates is the enemy's reflexes (that's why Lee wrecks Sakura, even in the 1st gate - she can't dodge). Remember also that Lee wasn't shown to use more than 5 gates by this time.

5. Kiba has the highest offense and possibly speed of the rest of K11, but I don't think anyone doubts him coming up short against Naruto. If anyone can finish him off though, it'd be Kiba, with Lee, Neji and Sakura behind him.

6. Hinata won't fight Naruto, she'll go hide behind a rock, and tap her pointing fingers against each other for the rest of the fight. If she does, though, she has a good chance of knocking Naruto out of SM through gentle fist.

7. Chouji might be big and strong, but he's not THAT big nor strong as of the Pein Arc to take on SM Naruto, even with help.

8. Sai will be trouble, as he can possibly outlast Naruto's SM due to flight. By the end, Naruto could just take out the others, before taking on Sai in base mode. Naruto still wins Mid-High diff.

9. Neji is 'the' biggest threat to SM Naruto. It's due to him teaming up with Shikamaru that makes me say Naruto won't actually beat all of them.

10. Ino will be a big factor here. She can tap into a summon, or possibly target Naruto himself (maybe with help from Hinata or Neji), but by this time of the series, she wasn't shown to communicate cross-battle-field telepathically like she did during the war arc.

11. Shino's abilities may be questionable against Sage chakra.'


Overall, I think Naruto will beat most of them, but lose anyway, with Neji and Sai being the last ones standing.

Actually op said naruto is pain arc.
K11 is Juubi arc.

Lol. Read more.

 

[UzumakiWade]

I still fail to see how Naruto can't stall them for 2 Minutes until frog song is finished. He can simply exit sage mode, create a billion clones and hide with Ma and Pa somewhere. He probably doesn't even need Sage Mode as long as he can summon Ma and Pa for frog call.

 

[Xlad]

Naruto wins. Will explain if replied to...

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I still fail to see how Naruto can't stall them for 2 Minutes until frog song is finished. He can simply exit sage mode, create a billion clones and hide with Ma and Pa somewhere. He probably doesn't even need Sage Mode as long as he can summon Ma and Pa for frog call.

Where is he hiding ma or pa when there's two byakugan users, ino, shino and kiba to sniff, see, and sense, them out?
He can't make such a surplus of clones or else it would disrupt the two clones at Toad mountain.
If he tries anyways: Giant choji, cerebus Kiba, and byakugou sakura kill them in droves.

 

[Blink89]

Ten Ten, Hinata, Kiba, Shino, and Ino get godstomped as soon as the battle begins. It'll basically be Gated Lee, Neji, Sakura, and Shikamaru against SM Naruto while Chouji and Katsuuyu take on his summons. Summons take care of Katsuyu/Chouji (btw it's manga fact that toad>slug) while SM Naruto mid diffs the remaining K11. Frog Kata, Frog Song, Rasengan Barrage, and FRS is too much imo.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Ten Ten, Hinata, Kiba, Shino, and Ino get godstomped as soon as the battle begins. It'll basically be Gated Lee, Neji, Sakura, and Shikamaru against SM Naruto while Chouji and Katsuuyu take on his summons. Summons take care of Katsuyu/Chouji (btw it's manga fact that toad>slug) while SM Naruto mid diffs the remaining K11. Frog Kata, Frog Song, Rasengan Barrage, and FRS is too much imo.

How? Might I ask.

 

[Blink89]

How? Might I ask.

It's quite simple really. They're complete fodders who get rekt by frog kata/rasengan barrage. None, and I repeat for emphasis, NONE of them have any feats to suggest they can evade a those attacks. Especially if they get blitzed right off the bat. The more stronger K11 members will most likely avoid the initial onslaught, while the weaker ones (aka the first 5 names I mentioned) get murderstomped.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

It's quite simple really. They're complete fodders who get rekt by frog kata/rasengan barrage. None, and I repeat for emphasis, NONE of them have any feats to suggest they can evade a those attacks. Especially if they get blitzed right off the bat. The more stronger K11 members will most likely avoid the initial onslaught, while the weaker ones (aka the first 5 names I mentioned) get murderstomped.

So what's stopping the "stronger" from covering the weaker? Both frog Kata and rasengan barrage are point blank techs. While for the most part the ppl that get "blitzed" are mid/long range fighters.
And naruto can't blitz 5 ppl at once.

 

[Blink89]

So what's stopping the "stronger" from covering the weaker? Both frog Kata and rasengan barrage are point blank techs. While for the most part the ppl that get "blitzed" are mid/long range fighters.
And naruto can't blitz 5 ppl at once.

Nothing suggests that they can avoid getting blitzed and then one shotted once Nardo gets in range. Unless you have some speed feats you'd like to run by me. Lol Long range fighters can easily be taken care of with FRS. (Which would be overkill obviously) The only long range fighters honestly are Ino and Shino and there's nothing in their arsenal that Nardo can't easily handle. Whatever the case, the point is that the aforementioned 5 are non-factors who can easily be dealt with.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Nothing suggests that they can avoid getting blitzed and then one shotted once Nardo gets in range. Unless you have some speed feats you'd like to run by me.

nothing suggests naruto can blitz 5 ppl at once unless you got some group blitzing feats you want to run by me. Naruto wouldn't even be able to get to them with the ppl you admitted won't get blitzed covering for them.

Lol Long range fighters can easily be taken care of with FRS. (Which would be overkill obviously)

frs is easily redirected by ino (she did it to obito controlling the juubi. Naruto would be children's play)

The only long range fighters honestly are Ino and Shino and there's nothing in their arsenal that Nardo can't easily handle.

ino will mind synchronize the entire k11 (like she did the entire sa) and Shino 1 shots all of his summons.

Whatever the case, the point is that the aforementioned 5 are non-factors who can easily be dealt with.

Welp I guess I just proved that wrong.

And tbh I don't see why you think shikamaru won't get blitzed but kiba whose considerably faster than him will.
Same goes for Choji.

 

[UltraPain]

Naruto wins. Will explain if replied to...

Please explain . Not trying to challenge it but just curious to hear your opinion.

 

[Sentinel of Light Style]

He can only use 3 KB when in sm.

Frs is redirected via ino mind switch from a far.

Except once thrown, Naruto has no control over Rasenshuriken, so you can't redirect. And if he has the Shadow Clones throw them, is it even possible to mind-control a Shadow Clone. Not to mention that Naruto withstood Nagato's attempt at controlling him up close with the Chakra Receivers, so he can probably break free from Ino's jutsu (or Kurama breaks/prevents it for him, as he was able to deny the Fusion technique Fukasaku wanted to use)
As for those saying Naruto would get detained by Shikamaru: he would sense it coming and avoid it. Even if he did get caught, who is to say he can't break free like he did in KCM?

 

[Lariatoo]

Naruto high diffs.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

This discussion is still going on? Lol, I might as well say SM Naruto negs blind madara, then everyone goes in ab uproar and talks about how blind madara negs SM Naruto but K11 can't...i think most of the arguments here are more emotional rather than logical to be honest. Only the K11 that's really liked are made arguments for, if people were logical they'd realize that K11 spanks, the mind of a Naruto fanboy and a non-in depth Naruto fan is no mans land indeed

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Except once thrown, Naruto has no control over Rasenshuriken, so you can't redirect.

Same goes for juubi dama yet ino redirected it.

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[Blink89]

nothing suggests naruto can blitz 5 ppl at once unless you got some group blitzing feats you want to run by me. Naruto wouldn't even be able to get to them with the ppl you admitted won't get blitzed covering for them.

Like I said, two KB with Frog kata/Rasengans should be enough. Besides, he was in the same situation with Pain yet he still managed pretty well I'd say.

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Bottom right. The stronger paths are covering for the weaker ones. Naruto found his away around this strategy, so I'm inclined to believe he'll do it again. Especially since 2 KB plus himself coming at you with frog kata/rasengans will undeniably one shot the weaker K11 members.

frs is easily redirected by ino (she did it to obito controlling the juubi. Naruto would be children's play)

Lol right and I suppose Naruto will just stand there and allow this to happen. Hell, he could just drop some smoke bombs and prevent this from happening if you want to go that far.

ino will mind synchronize the entire k11 (like she did the entire sa) and Shino 1 shots all of his summons.
Welp I guess I just proved that wrong.

Lol nope. Please explain how Shino one shots his summons? You don't prove anything wrong simply by spouting BS.

And tbh I don't see why you think shikamaru won't get blitzed but kiba whose considerably faster than him will.
Same goes for Choji.

Because Kiba is inferior to the both of them. He'll probably try to attack first and then proceed to get one shotted by frog kata. He's not particularly smart or powerful.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Like I said, two KB with Frog kata/Rasengans should be enough. Besides, he was in the same situation with Pain yet he still managed pretty well I'd say.

clones engage neji lee and sakura. And poof. They're still alive.

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Bottom right. The stronger paths are covering for the weaker ones. Naruto found his away around this strategy, so I'm inclined to believe he'll do it again. Especially since 2 KB plus himself coming at you with frog kata/rasengans will undeniably one shot the weaker K11 members.

They're covering deva. Not the guy in the back. Deva dosen't get touched until his powers cam3 back. So that's a fail.

Lol right and I suppose Naruto will just stand there and allow this to happen. Hell, he could just drop some smoke bombs and prevent this from happening if you want to go that far.

He can't stop it. He has no way to sense it and byakugan bypasses smoking bomb with the utmost ease. Then there's the fact that ino herself is a sensor so she won't be fooled by smoke bombs.

Lol nope. Please explain how Shino one shots his summons? You don't prove anything wrong simply by spouting BS.

the same way he 1 shot juubi clones.

Because Kiba is inferior to the both of them. He'll probably try to attack first and then proceed to get one shotted by frog kata. He's not particularly smart or powerful.

He has superior speed / reactions than either. And he's working/ mind sync with Shikamaru.

Not to mention fang wolf fang is the third strongest aoe attack on the team. Shikamaru is the entire teams smarts via ino's tech. He has his own speed and power.

 

[shelke]

Naruto can summon Ma and Pa? Don't even think about pulling that 'Toad contract' argument, when summoning them requires a special ritual. Naruto still wins Mid-Diff most. I am being generous here. The only threat is Sakura. Other than her, no one should be able to dodge FRS as none of them are speedsters. Sakura's speed feat against Kaguya's arm was damn impressive, which is why I am giving her the benefit of the doubt.

Naruto blitzes and uses Frog Kata. Game over.

P.s: I forgot about Lee. Lee cannot open more than 6 Gates in the Juubi arc. Naruto should be able to perfectly endure it in SM. Gates do not last forever. In fact, a very short while with a single ability - 6 and 7 - bar the last gate. After he runs out of steam, he's done.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Where is he hiding ma or pa when there's two byakugan users, ino, shino and kiba to sniff, see, and sense, them out?
He can't make such a surplus of clones or else it would disrupt the two clones at Toad mountain.
If he tries anyways: Giant choji, cerebus Kiba, and byakugou sakura kill them in droves.

Okay, so maybe he can't exactly hide them, but he can summon a barrage of clones.
He can exit sage mode and do it, like he did in the Pain fight where he hid all those clones underground.
Like i said, they only need a few minutes, destroying all will take a few minutes, after that Frog song gg.