ENOUGH of underrating Uzumaki Naruto!

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Ok that was just one speculation. It can end in a tie or Sasuke just simply winning without Naruto dying. Or the fight might not happen. And the hero always wins? So who won in part one?

Oh I ask again please name a manga where the rival wins the final fight.

Oh thats right no manga like that exist with a Shounen brand, but you think Naruto is the one manga that will break the rule that Kishi will have the rival a character that wasn't even going to be made originally win the final fight.

Sasuke who was only created to be Naruto's rival will win the final fight in your opinion. (Yeah right LOL).
 
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look man its also know that the hero at least looses one fight and also has a rival witch is sasuke and if the fight dosent happen then its because kishi dosent want to show sasuke geting his ass woped

No, its because he wants to show that Sasuke isnt evil anymore
 

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To hell with plot no jutsu. Everything in the manga would considered plot no jutsu. Naruto will surpass all, it's undeniable.
As for your comment on, "he should be at least strong as Minato by now"- who's to say he hasn't? And who's to say when he should surpass his father? Naruto is OP for young age.

when that happens, you can put Naruto in all of your top ten list but sadly for you, it hasn't happen yet.
yes, everything in the manga is plot no jutsu but I guess you failed to understand the idea of plot no jutsu huh?
Example : The plot made Nagato strong. The plot made Kurama Naruto's chakra pimp.
The plot made Nagato [Pain] beaten by a "I will never give up" Naruto when in fact, Nagato should've won that fight. Even if you based it on the current war, the five Kage were raped by Madara; who hasn't even mastered his Rinnegan perfectly yet [the time he received the Rinnegan and the time he gave Nagato the Rinnegan is still unclear] unlike Nagato who spent years with the Rinnegan. Kishi rushed the fight thus destroying the fight itself. That's why people use plot no jutsu. Naruto were saved multiple times by plot.

Him in the current Kyuubi mode, yes, him as his original form without the help of Kurama, no.
OP? yeah, he uses the Kyuubi's abilities and that made him OP. his own strength? nope.
again, let me let you understand ; Naruto is being underrated because his real strength alone made him a weak protagonist. it'd be totally different if his own strength was at least as strong Minato. if you checked almost all protagonist, their own strength alone is good enough to equal at least one top tier but Naruto doesn't.

"Naruto will surpass all" > no
"Naruto and Kurama will surpass all" > yes

inb4 "Naruto hater".
lol, I'm only stating an opinion and nope, I don't hate Naruto.
 

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Spiritual? LOL, no.

The RS could've very well meant that the juubi was "true power" and not Naruto. Think about it- that chapter is about the tailed beasts assembling together in a host. If all tailed beasts are together, it creates the juubi. But if Naruto obtains the juubi (and he'll need Shukaku) then I don't see anyone but the sage defeating him.
Overall, I agree. Naruto is slightly underrated.
 

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Oh I ask again please name a manga where the rival wins the final fight.

Oh thats right no manga like that exist with a Shounen brand, but you think Naruto is the one manga that will break the rule that Kishi will have the rival a character that wasn't even going to be made originally win the final fight.

Sasuke who was only created to be Naruto's rival will win the final fight in your opinion. (Yeah right LOL).

Didnt i tell you, it was speculation? My point was that we dont know what will happen in the final or if it will even happen. I also i should point that im fine with naruto being the strongest in the end, like i told you i dont care who wins the final fight and i would rather them both be alive
 

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how does current naruto make a moon and also naruto said they would die together so, xd

I never mentioned current Naruto being stronger than RS. Come to think of it, I don't remember mentioning current Naruto in my last post. I'm referring to what Naruto will inevitably become, as stated by Kishi.
 

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I dont think its being a cowered because im sure naruto would rather not fight his bestfriend:)



Sasuke was created to for the purpose of being a villian, which he stated in his interviews.

If they don't fight then Sasuke's entire storyline becomes redundant. He was created to be a rival and a villian, read the interviews.
 
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So what you are saying is that Kishi is only building up Sasuke as a evil psycho for no reason at all.

Sasuke was created to for the purpose of being a villian, which he stated in his interviews.

seeing how things are going in the manga, it looks like Hashi is going to talk no jutsu sasuke. And if that happens then it happens
 

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Sasuke was created to for the purpose of being a villian, which he stated in his interviews.

If they don't fight then Sasuke's entire storyline becomes redundant. He was created to be a rival and a villian, read the interviews.

And whats wrong with his storyline changing? Why would Kishi make all these chapters of sasuke bringing back the 4 kages and Hashi giving him this big talk just for him to say, i dont care, im still going to be evil.
 
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really, who cares if naruto is strong or not.... it is kishis manga and i have seen enough twists that wont make me surprised if something else other than naruto winning happens in the end. Naruto is neither under or overrated..... so this thread was kind of pointless!!!!
 

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Umm... In case you some of you idiots haven't noticed yet, Naruto is the main protagonist of the series. Who would underrate him? A halfwit, that's who.

For the haters who say Naruto is nothing without Kurama, think again because you got it backwards. Naruto has used Kurama to nearly his full ability and is steadily improving every chapter he's featured in!

Naruto is the son of the second most OP Hokage to have ever lived!
He mastered Sage Mode and surpassed Jiraiya
He mastered kyuubi mode
He saved the village's ass from the Akatsuki several times
He earned trust from countless shinobi
He's matured and is notified as the "one with TRUE power" by the Rikudou Sennin himself!

Now you halfwit Sasuke fans answer this: HOW DA FÛCK DOES SASUKE COMPARE TO WHAT I MENTIONED ABOVE!?
YOU FOOLS HAVE THE AUDACITY TO INFER THAT SASUKE IS A MAIN CHARACTER? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

Thank you all for reading. :)

Tobirama is the second most OP Kage. S/T Jutsu, Edo Tensei, an best Suiton user > S/T Jutsu and Raseangan.
 

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Ok boys and girls..Look at it like this. (Dragon Ball Z wise and compare it to Naruto since that is what Sasuke and Naruto look like. ) Naruto is like Goku in a way but without the outcast part. Goku saved the world and blah blah. Naruto saved his village and blah blah. Vegeta did his own little bad guy stuff, making him the tough guy he is. Either way you put it. They all gained their power from something. Vegeta was placed their to give Goku a good fight, becoming his rival in the process while becoming his comrade a swell. Like it or not, Sasuke is a main person in this Naruto tale if you like it or not. You can tell me different when he is no longer in the start songs before the actual episodes start. If Naruto is hunting for him for over 3 years. Lol, he is a main.
 
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