Ending this moot debate, Crisis Goku destroys Crisis Superman

[BerryDerange]

Crisis Goku is untouchable and can make things into fiction in their verse or his and rewrite their stories. He rewrites supermans story yet superman can't beat what is real. Goku is fiction to us so it's a paradox.

Three points
The writer is the ones who intended how strong a character is.

Superman has his story rewritten all the time, soon he will be a villain again who is bald and can't fight

DBZ has an open ending, showing Goku off to train to get stronger. We don't even know how strong Akira made him to be at the end, hence the movie is before his fight with uub. If Goku was to be rewritten or countined for ten more sagas this argument would be seldom.

 

[UCE]

A little more spacey

 

[Edward Snowden]

I completely agree.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Laaaaaaaaaaame.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Since when was Goku in the Infinite Crisis story arc... or better yet, when was Goku on the cast of DC Comics?

 

[Edward Snowden]

Since when was Goku in the Infinite Crisis story arc... or better yet, when was Goku on the cast of DC Comics?

It's in the realm of possibilities.

 

[Almighty Push]

Can someone tell me what both their "Crisis" forms look like?
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[BerryDerange]

The title was to prove a point, not to confuse one. Goku can be reiterated to be far more powerful if Akira chooses for him to while the story is his, better yet, someone else can create a Goku who is the Greatest fictional character and have him claim superiority over Superman like I did.

Since when was Goku in the Infinite Crisis story arc... or better yet, when was Goku on the cast of DC Comics?

 

[BerryDerange]

Basically, these are fictional characters who are changeable variables controlled by who creates them. Stop trying to use facts for stuff created by imagination.

 

[Dark Link]

Just go watch DeathBattle.

 

[Hebi II]

What's a "Crisis Goku"? And for that matter what's a "Crisis Superman"? Are you referring to pre-Crisis Superman?

 

[BerryDerange]

What's a "Crisis Goku"? And for that matter what's a "Crisis Superman"? Are you referring to pre-Crisis Superman?

Utter nonsense. Do you just read a book and ask, "what does the title mean?" I encourage you to comment on the Op, not on what Fry's your brain.

 

[BerryDerange]

Just go watch DeathBattle.

Did you not read? My the read has nothing to do with that nonsense

 

[Tantalus Thief]

What the heck is Crisis Goku

 

[BerryDerange]

What the heck is Crisis Goku

Flawed question. Flawed statement. Flawed understanding?

 

[chopstickchakra]

The title was to prove a point, not to confuse one. Goku can be reiterated to be far more powerful if Akira chooses for him to while the story is his, better yet, someone else can create a Goku who is the Greatest fictional character and have him claim superiority over Superman like I did.

And he can be reiterated to be far less powerful just like Superman was. Your point is invalid.

 

[BerryDerange]

And he can be reiterated to be far less powerful just like Superman was. Your point is invalid.

Your point doesn't contradict mine. Don't really get how the opposite was used, I said that he can be made stronger, not that he will.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Your point doesn't contradict mine. Don't really get how the opposite was used, I said that he can be made stronger, not that he will.

And I said he could be made weaker, just because he gets re-written doesn't mean he will become stronger. Maybe the next author realizes how OP Toriyama made him and tones him down some, just like happened to Superman.

 

[BerryDerange]

And I said he could be made weaker, just because he gets re-written doesn't mean he will become stronger. Maybe the next author realizes how OP Toriyama made him and tones him down some, just like happened to Superman.

Oh I get what you are saying. The fact I'm stating is the character can seamlessly be rewritten without ensuing ramifications, meaning the possibility of a Goku stronger than any Superman is indeed a plausible point which negates the debate of who's stronger. Both are changing variables controlled by whoever writes them. Using facts for fictional characters is obsolete because they are both figments of imagination.
our points are the same. I'm not denying he can't be weaken (it can transpire) but that he can be stronger as well

 

[chopstickchakra]

Oh I get what you are saying. The fact I'm stating is the character can seamlessly be rewritten without ensuing ramifications, meaning the possibility of a Goku stronger than any Superman is indeed a plausible point which negates the debate of who's stronger. Both are changing variables controlled by whoever writes them. Using facts for fictional characters is obsolete because they are both figments of imagination.
our points are the same. I'm not denying he can't be weaken (it can transpire) but that he can be stronger as well

Yup, I'm with you on everything except this part:"Using facts for fictional characters is obsolete because they are both figments of imagination." Unless you are talking about scientific facts such as laws of motion and physics etc. if you mean we shouldn't use what's been shown already as a fact of what they can do, then I disagree as it's all there is to reference since like you say they are fictional characters.