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Title says it all. I believe Minato already showed enough for us to put this debate between Itachi and Minato in the past and i'll explain why as shortly as possible U_U
Like most people know already, the only argument Itachi fans are currently handing on in debate concerne the genjutsu part. I'll show why even that is irrelevant now. Anyway let's start U_U
1- Knowledge
Minato was the Hokage(strongest person in the village) in a era with full of Uchihas. His knowledge on them was so vast he knew none of them would have the capacity to control the nine tails, to the point he declared only the dead Madara could control the beast. Not only that, but he even created a contract seal that stops the Sharingan control on the nine tails. In battle, he even already showed his extensive knowledge of it when [
I defy any of you to show me a mangapage where Minato said he looks directly into Uchihas eyes when he fights. Some people however usually like to post pictures of Minato facing Obito to say he was looking at his Sharingan, but let me tell you that facing someone doesn't automatically mean you're looking at his eyes. Gai for example is the common example pro Uchihas use as the only one who masters the fighting style without eye contact against Uchihas, but even him has shown shown to face Uchihas face to face [
During the fight against Itachi's copy, we've seen where Kakashi looks when he fights him(his body) [
From an outside perspective then, a reader may think they are looking at each other when in Kakashi's perspective it's not the case
So again, being face to face with someone =/= looking directly at someone's eyes. I for example can be standing straight infront of you without even paying attention to you, let alone looking at your eyes
It's for those reasons i personally always believe the argument about Minato not knowing how to fight Uchihas is a desperate one
2- Reflexive speed
Another factors always overlooked in this battle. Sasuke, a Uchiha mentioned several times in this manga to possess better eyes than his brother Itachi couldn't follow Raikage's speed with his MS
Same Raikage who was stated to have comparable reflexive speed to Minato by his own bodyguard [
The dude move so fast it makes him sweat
Minato's shunshin is so great even KCM Naruto's Shunshin(that blitzed Itachi's partner) was said to pale in comparison to that of the fourth
He can cross large distances before Sasuke's Choku tomoe can register
So, if you can't even follow your opponent with your eyes [
3- Sensing ability
4- Kage Bunshin
Minato can use clones as well
We already know genjutsu are useless on clones since they are fake. Using a genjutsu on a clone would only be a waste of time, especially when you know the chakra can be manipulated at will to break the illusion [
So really, Itachi has nothing on Minato on the genjutsu part as well.
Now that i've completely debunked the sole arguments made by Itachi fans, i'll end by saying this
How Minato ends the fight
This move is enough for Minato to end this fight
He doesn't need more. The moment Itachi is surrounded by kunais, either he dies in a blitz or he dies from Susanoo overuse especially with his desease.
Hope you enjoyed reading U_U
Like most people know already, the only argument Itachi fans are currently handing on in debate concerne the genjutsu part. I'll show why even that is irrelevant now. Anyway let's start U_U
1- Knowledge
Minato was the Hokage(strongest person in the village) in a era with full of Uchihas. His knowledge on them was so vast he knew none of them would have the capacity to control the nine tails, to the point he declared only the dead Madara could control the beast. Not only that, but he even created a contract seal that stops the Sharingan control on the nine tails. In battle, he even already showed his extensive knowledge of it when [
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] the moment to place the seal. I defy any of you to show me a mangapage where Minato said he looks directly into Uchihas eyes when he fights. Some people however usually like to post pictures of Minato facing Obito to say he was looking at his Sharingan, but let me tell you that facing someone doesn't automatically mean you're looking at his eyes. Gai for example is the common example pro Uchihas use as the only one who masters the fighting style without eye contact against Uchihas, but even him has shown shown to face Uchihas face to face [
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] [
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]During the fight against Itachi's copy, we've seen where Kakashi looks when he fights him(his body) [
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], yet we see them facing each other as if nothing happened [
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]From an outside perspective then, a reader may think they are looking at each other when in Kakashi's perspective it's not the case
So again, being face to face with someone =/= looking directly at someone's eyes. I for example can be standing straight infront of you without even paying attention to you, let alone looking at your eyes
It's for those reasons i personally always believe the argument about Minato not knowing how to fight Uchihas is a desperate one
2- Reflexive speed
Another factors always overlooked in this battle. Sasuke, a Uchiha mentioned several times in this manga to possess better eyes than his brother Itachi couldn't follow Raikage's speed with his MS
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Same Raikage who was stated to have comparable reflexive speed to Minato by his own bodyguard [
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], himself even going a step further by completely admitting inferiority in the category [
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], something that was even backed-up by feats during their encounter
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The dude move so fast it makes him sweat
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Minato's shunshin is so great even KCM Naruto's Shunshin(that blitzed Itachi's partner) was said to pale in comparison to that of the fourth
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, comparable to a yellow flash
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He can cross large distances before Sasuke's Choku tomoe can register
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So, if you can't even follow your opponent with your eyes [
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], let alone make eye contact with him, how can you cast a genjutsu on him? What people often think is that because Sharingan genjutsu is a occular attack, it's automatic that when someone look at the eyes he falls under the genjutsu. No, it's not like that. Even when the eye contact is made, the genjutsu user still should be in the position where he made the chakra build up through his eyes and cast it for that to be successful. Genjutsu like any other techniques requires chakra to be used. In the meantime, anything could happen especially while facing a speedster. He would most likely be forced to play the defensive here more than anything else(Susanoo most likely)3- Sensing ability
Even with the above mentioned, i could understand a concern of debate, but with the latest chapter definitely proving Minato is a sensor, i personally believe the argument about genjutsu went out of the window
Minato is a great sensor. To determine how great a sensor is, you can notice his sensor field. Ao's sensory unit for example needed large equipments just to sense Kumo's battlefield. Great sensors like Minato and Tobirama however are capable to sense even countries away(from Konoha to Kumo) and all that without equipments
Minato can sense chakra build up since he has shown the capacity to notify the change in chakra when a Bijuu is extracted. This is particularly interesting especially when you know that a Bijuu's power can't even be sensed inside a Jinchuriki unless his chakra comes out from one or another reason, so there is no possible ways to notice if one is even a Jinchuriki or a normal person, let alone know whether a Bijuu gets extracted or not, yet Minato did just that. On the picture above you can also notice that even before that, during his revival, he was capable not only to notify Naruto's chakra inside the nine tails countries away, but notice he completely controlled the Kyubi and they were fighting together
As a counter-example for example, Naruto who managed to sense Minato's chakra battlefields away as well [
Sensors are capable to sense chakra build inside the body(like you can see above with Minato as well)
It helps to prevent even occular attacks, which means before Itachi even thinks about puting Minato in a genjutsu, he would know
Also, even in case you're caught inside a genjutsu(outside tsukuyomi of course) a sensor can identify it directly by noticing the disturbance in the flow. It works for every genjutsu since even Shisui's KA was detected by Ao
Minato is a great sensor. To determine how great a sensor is, you can notice his sensor field. Ao's sensory unit for example needed large equipments just to sense Kumo's battlefield. Great sensors like Minato and Tobirama however are capable to sense even countries away(from Konoha to Kumo) and all that without equipments
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Minato can sense chakra build up since he has shown the capacity to notify the change in chakra when a Bijuu is extracted. This is particularly interesting especially when you know that a Bijuu's power can't even be sensed inside a Jinchuriki unless his chakra comes out from one or another reason, so there is no possible ways to notice if one is even a Jinchuriki or a normal person, let alone know whether a Bijuu gets extracted or not, yet Minato did just that. On the picture above you can also notice that even before that, during his revival, he was capable not only to notify Naruto's chakra inside the nine tails countries away, but notice he completely controlled the Kyubi and they were fighting together
As a counter-example for example, Naruto who managed to sense Minato's chakra battlefields away as well [
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], only noticed Minato's control over the nine tails when he actually used it infront of him [
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]. That speaks volume concerning Minato's sensing abilitiesSensors are capable to sense chakra build inside the body(like you can see above with Minato as well)
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It helps to prevent even occular attacks, which means before Itachi even thinks about puting Minato in a genjutsu, he would know
Also, even in case you're caught inside a genjutsu(outside tsukuyomi of course) a sensor can identify it directly by noticing the disturbance in the flow. It works for every genjutsu since even Shisui's KA was detected by Ao
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4- Kage Bunshin
Minato can use clones as well
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We already know genjutsu are useless on clones since they are fake. Using a genjutsu on a clone would only be a waste of time, especially when you know the chakra can be manipulated at will to break the illusion [
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]So really, Itachi has nothing on Minato on the genjutsu part as well.
Now that i've completely debunked the sole arguments made by Itachi fans, i'll end by saying this
How Minato ends the fight
This move is enough for Minato to end this fight
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He doesn't need more. The moment Itachi is surrounded by kunais, either he dies in a blitz or he dies from Susanoo overuse especially with his desease.
Hope you enjoyed reading U_U
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