EMS Sasuke (w/o susanoo) vs Alive Minato

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Battle: chnnin exams arena. Where Garra fought Sasuke
Restrictions: Susanoo
Intel: full


Scenario 2
Intel: none

Sasuke wins 1 losses 2
 

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Not sure what intel is going to change when he is out sped. Everything hazardous to Minato is sensed, dodged or absorbed.

Hiraishin Minato ≥ V2 Ay who was casually pimp slapping Sasuke around the battlefield. Minato will be capable of the exact same thing, if not producing even better results. There is no way Sasuke can prevent himself from being touched, knowledge or not. He gets tagged and has no ultimate defense to stop him from being dropped.
 
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^^ How is Sasuke out sped? EMS Sasuke has feats keeping up with Jj obito and sage mode Madara. Minato has no speed feats better.

With intel, and Enton, Harshin becomes a lot less effective.. Sasuke can track and destroy every single kunai with enton very easily.

People are quick to forget Sasuke can use enton from his hand in form of a sword. One had is enton sword and the other is chidor katana. Minato can't touch either weapon with being seriously injured.. CC goes to Sasuke.. Then there genjutsu.
 

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^^ How is Sasuke out sped? EMS Sasuke has feats keeping up with Jj obito and sage mode Madara. Minato has no speed feats better.
Hirashin is still faster.

With intel, and Enton, Harshin becomes a lot less effective.. Sasuke can track and destroy every single kunai with enton very easily.

People are quick to forget Sasuke can use enton from his hand in form of a sword. One had is enton sword and the other is chidor katana. Minato can't touch either weapon with being seriously injured.. CC goes to Sasuke.. Then there genjutsu.
Locating and destroying 10+ scattered kunai, while focusing on Minato at the same time is going to very, very difficult. Although I agree...with intel, Minato probably can't touch EMS Sasuke. His SM is sub par but with intel he might just opt for it in order to touch Sasuke. How do you think he fares against senjutsu Minato, who only needs one touch?
 
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Hirashin is still faster.



Locating and destroying 10+ scattered kunai, while focusing on Minato at the same time is going to very, very difficult. Although I agree...with intel, Minato probably can't touch EMS Sasuke. His SM is sub par but with intel he might just opt for it in order to touch Sasuke. How do you think he fares against senjutsu Minato, who only needs one touch?
Harshin is faster but with intel it's almost a none factor.

Opting to touch Sasuke is taking a chance on dying. Sage mode can't save him from Enton..
With intel Sasuke would destroy the Kunai the moment they are released so locating them is no longer part of the equation.
 
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Harshin is faster but with intel it's almost a none factor.

Opting to touch Sasuke is taking a chance on dying. Sage mode can't save him from Enton..
With intel Sasuke would destroy the Kunai the moment they are released so locating them is no longer part of the equation.
he's destroying all of this at once?

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what technique in sasuke's arsenal is doing that? Minato's kunai skills are so sick not even madara picks up on them

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Sasuke loses his trump card is having a chakra avatar without it minato can figure a way around enton easily thats all sasuke has besides susanoo for EMS abilities and his other stuff doesnt put him on minato's level.
This isn't a bad thing tho, chakra avatars are what make the top tiers that good its not a bash to say sasuke loses just ftg is perfect for those without one
Inb4 enton can burn the seals
inb4 chidori spear blitz
inb4 sasuke is my boyfriend ill back him forever
 
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Minato can place FTG seals at any place not only at Kunai .He can place FTG seal on ground or he can create shadow clones to do that while he fights Sasuke.

And there is fact that Sharingan couldnt see FTG marks so Sasuke wont have any idea where seals are..

Minato wins .
 

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he's destroying all of this at once?

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what technique in sasuke's arsenal is doing that? Minato's kunai skills are so sick not even madara picks up on them

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Maybe not all, but several.. And with intel he would know the purpose of them and slowly destroy them as the fight goes on..

Sasuke definitely can match Minato in shuriken skills.
 

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Minato's only option is to play a game of 'Whac-A-Mole' with Sasuke. Sasuke's feats of tracking and intercepting JJ Obito (something which KCM Minato failed at) means that even without Susanoo, Sasuke can defend himself w/ enton. 3T Sasuke was already a beast with weapons, EMS Sasuke should easily be able to counter Minato's kunai with his own Enton and ration senbon.

Sasuke will eventually overwhelm Minato and corner him.
 

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Maybe not all, but several.. And with intel he would know the purpose of them and slowly destroy them as the fight goes on..

Sasuke definitely can match Minato in shuriken skills.
thats just 1 toss though. minato, and his clones can do this multiple times. he isn't destroying all of them, and every one that gets by is a warp point.
 
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Minato's only option is to play a game of 'Whac-A-Mole' with Sasuke. Sasuke's feats of tracking and intercepting JJ Obito (something which KCM Minato failed at) means that even without Susanoo, Sasuke can defend himself w/ enton. 3T Sasuke was already a beast with weapons, EMS Sasuke should easily be able to counter Minato's kunai with his own Enton and ration senbon.

Sasuke will eventually overwhelm Minato and corner him.
yeah he would corner a guy who can FTG away anytime he wants.
 

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Without susanoo it tips into more minatos favor Imo, Sasuke can track and destroy Kunai but minatos not limited to Kunai, he can mark anything else he comes in contact with while moving around in combat, hell he can mark sasukes sword if he could manage to touch it somehow. If minato is able to ftg/ rasengan combo him before he's able to use Enton Sasuke has nothing to really defend him. Besides that minato could use clone feints along with ftg. Without susanoo this becomes a lot more difficult for Sasuke if you ask me, but of course, there's always genjutsu
 
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Without susanoo it tips into more minatos favor Imo, Sasuke can track and destroy Kunai but minatos not limited to Kunai, he can mark anything else he comes in contact with while moving around in combat, hell he can mark sasukes sword if he could manage to touch it somehow. If minato is able to ftg/ rasengan combo him before he's able to use Enton Sasuke has nothing to really defend him. Besides that minato could use clone feints along with ftg. Without susanoo this becomes a lot more difficult for Sasuke if you ask me, but of course, there's always genjutsu
Good points, but I think Sasuke wins this for a few reasons:

1) Sasuke was able to track, intercept and tag JJ Obito thanks to his Choku-Tomoe EMS. This is something KCM Minato failed to do. Sasuke was also able to match the speed of KCM Naruto on multiple occasions. Sasuke is no slacker in terms of speed and precognition.

2) Minato's FTG will prove to be difficult to handle, but the more Enton Sasuke spreads on the battlefield, the less flexibility Minato will have in terms of movement. Through this I believe that Sasuke will be able to eventually corner him.

3) While Sasuke doesn't have Susanoo here, Enton can also be used effectively as a defense. We've seen that early MS Sasuke was able to erect Enton before V2 A hit him. EMS Sasuke is much faster and far more perceptive. An Enton shield can easily be erected (in a manner akin to the gif in my signature) before Minato strikes.

4) Genjutsu is certainly a wild factor which will limit Minato movements.

I believe this battle will essentially be a game of 'whac-a-mole'. Minato will constantly be looking for an opening to strike, with Sasuke looking to pin him down. I believe that Sasuke will eventually come out on top.
 
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Good points, but I think Sasuke wins this for a few reasons:

1) Sasuke was able to track, intercept and tag JJ Obito. This is something KCM Minato failed to do. Sasuke was also able to match the speed of KCM Naruto on multiple occasions. Sasuke is no slacker in terms of speed and precognition.

2) Minato's FTG will prove to be difficult to handle, but the more Enton Sasuke spreads on the battlefield, the less flexibility Minato will have in terms of movement. Through this I believe that Sasuke will be able to eventually corner him.

3) While Sasuke doesn't have Susanoo here, Enton can also be used effectively as a defense. We've seen that early MS Sasuke was able to erect Enton before V2 A hit him. EMS Sasuke is much faster and far more perceptive. An Enton shield can easily be erected (in a manner akin to the gif in my signature) before Minato strikes.

4) Genjutsu is certainly a wild factor which will limit Minato movements.

I believe this battle will essentially be a game of 'whac-a-mole'. Minato will constantly be looking for an opening to strike, with Sasuke looking to pin him down. I believe that Sasuke will eventually come out on top.
While Sasuke being able to track fast movement is no doubt, and beyond first rate at that, ftg isn't movement, it's teleportation. The best Sasuke can do is know minato is going to attack when he disappears and prepare for it. Even then minato can use this as a feint as well if he popped up somewhere else instead of attacking possibly being able to set up a ftg v2 style attack. Sasuke cornering minato is possible, but Sasuke still has to be able to move around as well. Minatos been shown to react pretty quickly post ftg, the fact that ftg is teleportation makes precog a lil more difficult imo. There's also the possibility of minato being able to warp Enton altogether like he did the bijuu dama(as silly as that actually sounds).
 

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thats just 1 toss though. minato, and his clones can do this multiple times. he isn't destroying all of them, and every one that gets by is a warp point.
There's no doubt Minato will have wrapping points because Sasuke won't destroy all the Kunai.. but he needs more than that to win.
 
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