EMS Sasuke vs Tsunade, Mei, Chiyo and A

Who wins?

  • Sasuke

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Lol, EMS Madara/Hashirama and Nagato aren't even on the same level. Naruto and Obito beat Nagato.

rinnegan>ems
rinnegan>moukton.

Nagato was the strongest in akatsuki which included ms tobi,if you mean rinnegan tobi,then he is above everyone except nagato,since nagato will be in control of gedo,not tobi,and that includes all of tobi's bijuus and jins.

Nagato and gedo beat everyone,except kabuto with edo,edo madara,and tobi if tobi is the one with gedo
 

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rinnegan>ems
rinnegan>moukton.

Nagato was the strongest in akatsuki which included ms tobi,if you mean rinnegan tobi,then he is above everyone except nagato,since nagato will be in control of gedo,not tobi,and that includes all of tobi's bijuus and jins.

Nagato and gedo beat everyone,except kabuto with edo,edo madara,and tobi if tobi is the one with gedo

Lets talk about Madara first. What does Nagato have in his arsenal that could counter PS slashes?
 

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rinnegan>ems
rinnegan>moukton.

Nagato was the strongest in akatsuki which included ms tobi,if you mean rinnegan tobi,then he is above everyone except nagato,since nagato will be in control of gedo,not tobi,and that includes all of tobi's bijuus and jins.

Nagato and gedo beat everyone,except kabuto with edo,edo madara,and tobi if tobi is the one with gedo

Horrible logic in bold, absolutely useless in debates, come up with something else besides Rinnegan>EMS. PS >Nagato. PS Kyuubi>>Nagato.
Rinnegan can't absorb Mokuton as its a living things created by Hashirama's chakra, it can absorb the chakra from it but that's a dumb tactic as the wood itself with crush Nagato.

Obito's Gedo control>Nagato's Gedo control, as stated by Madara and Nagato wouldn't get the Jins. Obito gets the Gedo if they fight. If you take away the Gedo then Nagato still loses as he can't touch Obito.
 

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Lets talk about Madara first. What does Nagato have in his arsenal that could counter PS slashes?

easy,deva path ability deflects it,or preta path simply absorbs the susanoo sword which is made entirely of chakra

Horrible logic in bold, absolutely useless in debates, come up with something else besides Rinnegan>EMS. PS >Nagato. PS Kyuubi>>Nagato.
Rinnegan can't absorb Mokuton as its a living things created by Hashirama's chakra, it can absorb the chakra from it but that's a dumb tactic as the wood itself with crush Nagato.

Obito's Gedo control>Nagato's Gedo control, as stated by Madara and Nagato wouldn't get the Jins. Obito gets the Gedo if they fight. If you take away the Gedo then Nagato still loses as he can't touch Obito.

oh really?,the wood is mae from hashirama's chakra,just like he absorbed the oil from j-man's gaemon,he will completely absorb the wood,as long as it is made from chakra it is useless to preta path,no matter what form it is in.

CT>madara, nagato Gedo>>madara kyubi,especially as gedo is speacially suited for bijuus.
6 elemental attacks>katon,suiton and doton of madara
preta deva>susanoo
all other 6 paths>ems madara's other arsenal

hashirama's moukton as said is useless to preta,CT and he is dead.


Human path makes intangibility useless. Tobi wins only if he has gedo.
 

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Sasuke wins mid-high difficulty only due to the numbers he is up against.

The Raikage is the only one who can counter Sasuke's arsenal but he can't even harm Sasuke unless he wants to get burnt by enton flames. Even if he gets all suicidal, he still can't do anything to Sasuke lol.
 

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Sasuke takes this mid-high diff, he can take out Mei with a Susano' arrow, then hit Susano'o with Enton:Magatama, then burn Chiyo with Amaterasu, A can dodge Sasuke's long distance jutsu's but he can't do anything to damage Sasuke's Susano'o and if he tries to attack his Susano'o he gets burned by the shield of black flames or by Enton:Kagutshuchi.
 

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easy,deva path ability deflects it,or preta path simply absorbs the susanoo sword which is made entirely of chakra



oh really?,the wood is mae from hashirama's chakra,just like he absorbed the oil from j-man's gaemon,he will completely absorb the wood,as long as it is made from chakra it is useless to preta path,no matter what form it is in.

CT>madara, nagato Gedo>>madara kyubi,especially as gedo is speacially suited for bijuus.
6 elemental attacks>katon,suiton and doton of madara
preta deva>susanoo
all other 6 paths>ems madara's other arsenal

hashirama's moukton as said is useless to preta,CT and he is dead.


Human path makes intangibility useless. Tobi wins only if he has gedo.

Why does everyone make that stupid reference to him absorbing oil. Last time I checked oil is a nonliving substance, Mokuton is not which brings me to my next point. Mokuton's source is Hashirama's chakra, the stuff that makes it grow, the tree its self is not made of chakra. Preta can't absorb it.

CT is destroyed by PS Sword Slashes or by Kyuubi's TBB.

Gedo has failed to show any feats that let it beat Kyuubi or Perfect Susanoo. Gedo housing Bijuus doesn't mean it can beat one or that it has some advantage over them because it doesn't.

You mean the elemental attacks that are unnamed as of now? Good luck debating with those...doesn't matter as Preta sucks up Madara's Ninjutsu anyway.

Preta>Susanoo is honestly the dumbest counter of Susanoo yet. Nagato gets killed when he tries and sucks up Susanoo. Not like he'll ever get close enough to touch it and absorb it when the shockwave of the blast will kill him. Deva has nothing besides CT that can take care of PS, anything else is tanked effortlessly.

Nagato has no way to block multiple PS slashes. If he uses Deva to block one, another one comes in and kills him.

And it seems that you know the rest of EMS Madara's arsenal? Doesn't matter as PS trumps him and his whole arsenal.

Preta can't absorb Mokuton as they are trees that sprout due to Hashirama's chakra. CT can be evaded by tunneling into the ground far enough to evade it, merge with the rocks made of CT or use his Shinsuusenju which CT isn't large enough to suck in as it will smash it's way out with ease.

Human Path only works if he can touch Obito, which he can't do in the first place, Human Path pulling souls doesn't mean anything when the person you are trying to touch isn't in the same plane of existence as him.
 

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easy,deva path ability deflects it,or preta path simply absorbs the susanoo sword which is made entirely of chakra

No the slash is not made of chakra. The shockwave is too strong and sharp for deva to deflect it.
 

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A and the Girls win. A spams crazy attacks while Mei uses Boil Release and they all die except for her and Tsunade. End :b Come at me xD
 

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Why does everyone make that stupid reference to him absorbing oil. Last time I checked oil is a nonliving substance, Mokuton is not which brings me to my next point. Mokuton's source is Hashirama's chakra, the stuff that makes it grow, the tree its self is not made of chakra. Preta can't absorb it.

CT is destroyed by PS Sword Slashes or by Kyuubi's TBB.

Gedo has failed to show any feats that let it beat Kyuubi or Perfect Susanoo. Gedo housing Bijuus doesn't mean it can beat one or that it has some advantage over them because it doesn't.

You mean the elemental attacks that are unnamed as of now? Good luck debating with those...doesn't matter as Preta sucks up Madara's Ninjutsu anyway.

Preta>Susanoo is honestly the dumbest counter of Susanoo yet. Nagato gets killed when he tries and sucks up Susanoo. Not like he'll ever get close enough to touch it and absorb it when the shockwave of the blast will kill him. Deva has nothing besides CT that can take care of PS, anything else is tanked effortlessly.

Nagato has no way to block multiple PS slashes. If he uses Deva to block one, another one comes in and kills him.

And it seems that you know the rest of EMS Madara's arsenal? Doesn't matter as PS trumps him and his whole arsenal.

Preta can't absorb Mokuton as they are trees that sprout due to Hashirama's chakra. CT can be evaded by tunneling into the ground far enough to evade it, merge with the rocks made of CT or use his Shinsuusenju which CT isn't large enough to suck in as it will smash it's way out with ease.

Human Path only works if he can touch Obito, which he can't do in the first place, Human Path pulling souls doesn't mean anything when the person you are trying to touch isn't in the same plane of existence as him.

it dosent matter if hashirama turns his chakra to life or death,as long as the ttech is made from his chakra,and is a ninjutsu,it's a meal for preta. Preta path was able to drain the chakra from naruto directly too,so hashi's chakra-life thing is pointless,it will still be absorbed. CT uses gravity to pull and then crush the jutsus hashi uses. Deva poath wiped out konoha in one move,nagato own abilities are much stronger and faster than deva,so that gian tree or whatever,gets crushed by CT or blown aside by CST,or nagato just puts up a preta shield and walks into itxd,basho tennin would pull hashirama down anyway. Sorry,but hashi can't match nagato at all.

Gedo mazo uses demonic chakra chains,which can easily bind several tailed beasts at once,and according to the 5 tails,they hurt. Kyubi that madara uses would be outclassed,as his tbb takes long to charge,and gedo's chains,coupled with the chockwaves and chakra blasts would allow gedo to simply restrain it and suck it up. Kyubi was hurt and sent back by a simple RS from SM naruto as well as the rasengan barrage, a gedo chakra blast would do more damage than those attacks. Last time i checked,nagato was in possesion of gedo when 1-7 tails were sealed inside it,so his gedo actually has the power of 7 bijuus,which is more than enough to easly overpower a controlled kurama.

PS word slash isnt taking dpwn CT alone,and kyubi would be overpowered by gedo to be of any help,hence it will soon become a nagato gedo vs madara.

Deva path had a 5 second cool off,nagato as said by naruto to be much faster and stronger in terms of abilities than pain,so his cool off time is much shorter than deva. Gravity beats shockwaves anyday,so ps sword slash will be countered by ST while the sword would be sucked up bu preta,revitalizing nagato in yhe process. Oh,and cerberus summon,being able to divide with physical attacks would probably divide quite a lot in this fight,coupled with an invincible chameleon that naruto in km cudnt sense,means he can simply ambush madara.

Nagato and gedo beat ems madara kyubi.

No the slash is not made of chakra. The shockwave is too strong and sharp for deva to deflect it.
nope,gravity beats shockwaves,everything is subject to gravity, a preta deva combo would easily handle PS slashes.
 

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nope,gravity beats shockwaves,everything is subject to gravity, a preta deva combo would easily handle PS slashes.

What is preta going to do? Alright I'll give you this one. But, remember that theres that atleast 5 second cool down depending on size of the ST.
 

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it dosent matter if hashirama turns his chakra to life or death,as long as the ttech is made from his chakra,and is a ninjutsu,it's a meal for preta. Preta path was able to drain the chakra from naruto directly too,so hashi's chakra-life thing is pointless,it will still be absorbed. CT uses gravity to pull and then crush the jutsus hashi uses. Deva poath wiped out konoha in one move,nagato own abilities are much stronger and faster than deva,so that gian tree or whatever,gets crushed by CT or blown aside by CST,or nagato just puts up a preta shield and walks into itxd,basho tennin would pull hashirama down anyway. Sorry,but hashi can't match nagato at all.

Except it isn't made from his chakra. It is simply a tree using his chakra to grow, two different things so no it won't be absorbed unless you think real trees will be absorbed by Preta. Saying it is made of chakra is like saying that trees are made out of water.
Shinsuusenju isn't being crushed by CT, not when an 8 Tailed Naruto broke through Deva's CT, while Nagato may be stronger than Deva, Shinsuusenjuu towers over mountains, and over the 100% Kyuubi. It isn't getting sucked in.
Preta can't absorb Mokuton so he can't absorb Shinsuusenju, if he even tries it he gets smashed.

Hashirama manipulates the Mokuton that has already been planted on the battlefield, he can simply call for a root to catch him if Nagato pulls him.

Gedo mazo uses demonic chakra chains,which can easily bind several tailed beasts at once,and according to the 5 tails,they hurt. Kyubi that madara uses would be outclassed,as his tbb takes long to charge,and gedo's chains,coupled with the chockwaves and chakra blasts would allow gedo to simply restrain it and suck it up. Kyubi was hurt and sent back by a simple RS from SM naruto as well as the rasengan barrage, a gedo chakra blast would do more damage than those attacks. Last time i checked,nagato was in possesion of gedo when 1-7 tails were sealed inside it,so his gedo actually has the power of 7 bijuus,which is more than enough to easly overpower a controlled kurama.
The Mazo itself only handles those chakra receivers to keep the Bijuu bound to it, not to attack them with, that's what the Outer Path user uses the chains for and as we haven't seen what level of control Nagato has over Bijuu that shouldn't be included in this debate as Obito, whose binding was already stated to be much stronger than Nagato's had one of the beasts almost turn on him. TBB takes seconds to charge.

50% Percent Kyuubi was blown back by these attacks, not 100% Kyuubi who dwarfs 50% Kyuubi. Gedo can't even suck Bijuu up, where did you get that from? It only did that to the Bijuu because they were already inside of it. Gedo chakra blasts are tanked by PS Kyuubi's Susanoo armor. Gedo may have 7 Bijuu inside of it but that obviously does not mean it is equal in power to 7 Bijuu, because its manga feats say otherwise its feats tell me that it has no chance against a PS Kyuubi.

PS word slash isnt taking dpwn CT alone,and kyubi would be overpowered by gedo to be of any help,hence it will soon become a nagato gedo vs madara.
PS Kyuubi isn't being overpowered by Gedo, 1 PS Sword Slash fused with TBB will destroy that core.

Deva path had a 5 second cool off,nagato as said by naruto to be much faster and stronger in terms of abilities than pain,so his cool off time is much shorter than deva. Gravity beats shockwaves anyday,so ps sword slash will be countered by ST while the sword would be sucked up bu preta,revitalizing nagato in yhe process. Oh,and cerberus summon,being able to divide with physical attacks would probably divide quite a lot in this fight,coupled with an invincible chameleon that naruto in km cudnt sense,means he can simply ambush madara.
Just because his attacks occur faster and stronger, doesn't mean that the cool down is any lower, it hasn't stated to be, it hasn't implied to be so it isn't. Preta isn't absorbing the sword as Madara never needs to get close to Nagato to send a shockwave at him. 1 Shockwave can be blocked by Shinra Tensei but the second one kills him since he can't deflect it due to his interval. Any summons here are pointless and can be ignored as PS's armor will easily tank anything they have, they're just a nuisance and the chameleon is easily detected with the Sharingan's vision. KM Naruto only sense Negative Emotions not chakra. But anyway, no he isn't ambushing Madara.

Not to mention I'm pretty sure the Nagato you are debating with doesn't exist. Its either:

-Healthy Nagato with Empty Gedo who doesn't have full mastery of the Rinnegan techs like latest Nagato does.

-Nagato using Pain Rikudou and a 7 Bijuu Gedo Mazo.

-Edo Nagato with no Gedo Mazo as Obito was controlling it at the time.

You can't mix all of them so choose before we continue.
 
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Stupid Sasuke fan boy , tsk tsk .

Tsunade Strength > Susanoo
A's Speed > Sasuke's speed
Mei's Suiton > Sasuke's Futon

Strength of a Hundred allow's Tsunade to get close enough with A to obliterate Susanoo, while Chiyo distract's Sasuke with her White Secret Technique: The Chikamatsu Collection of Ten Puppets. Mei counter's all Futon attempt's and cover's Sasuke in torrent's of Lava after Susanoo is long gone, via Tsunade and A. If he attempt's to dodge A will punch him back into it.

Did you not see the short encounter with A,Tsunade and Mei taking on Madara?
He resorted to using a Wood Clone... Sasuke does not have that option .
Sasuke vs 3 Kage and a Highly experience War veteran.

Sasuke at the most would last 3 minutes. Bloodlust Kage's and Chiyo take this Easy.
 

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Sasuke takes this easily. Whoever denies this is off his meds. Mei is literally a single shot affair here. Sasuke takes her out with a single Enton Arrow. She has shown no speed feats to avoid anything this fast. Tsunade cannot dodge or evade Magatama, and Sasuke can use Enton Arrows and Magatama simultaneously. Katsuya is taken out with Enton manipulation easily, and can even be put under genjutsu to bend it to his will.

Sasuke can coat his CS with Kagatsuchi and create a wall of Amaterasu from Enton flame in Susanoo's third hand. Any fallen Enton is a death trap for Tsunade if she is still alive somehow. A is taken out with a genjutsu, and if he avoids the eyes then he gets hit with a single flame. A wall of Amaterasu and Kagatsuchi mean that none of the taijutsu users can approach Sussano. Sasuke can simply grab Chiyo and crush her to a pulp.

Tsunade's strength is not enough to break CS and if she and A even come close, they are taken out point-blank with Enton sword, Magatama, and Arrows. EMS Sasuke has the upper hand through out the fight. He can even isolate the users by creating Amaterau rings around the opponents to kill them. Low-difference, Mid-Difference if I really get generous.


How the eff is EMS Sasuke defeating 3 Kage and a Highly experienced War Veteran !!?

I laugh at your ignorance, nice day dreaming.
Let me some my own theory up.

Chiyo distracts Sasuke with her 10 White Puppet Collection, Tsunade ( Strength of a Hundred activated ) and A get in close and shatter his Susanoo with a combined hit. Don't bother saying he can't get distracted by Chiyo , he's facing off againgst 10 Puppet's controlled by a Puppet master that have PERFECT team work. Tsunade and A destroyed Madara's rib cage with little effort ( physically ) . Mei counter's all Futon and covers Sasuke in Lava, he dies! Or Tsunade and A get greedy and break every single bone in his body.

Tsunade can kick or punch up a Earth Wall to block Amaterasu, Chiyo has the Chakra Shield ( which wont last long but still haha ) and A is fast enough to dodge it himself and pick Mei up by her ass.
 

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How the eff is EMS Sasuke defeating 3 Kage and a Highly experienced War Veteran !!?

I laugh at your ignorance, nice day dreaming.
Let me some my own theory up.

Chiyo distracts Sasuke with her 10 White Puppet Collection, Tsunade ( Strength of a Hundred activated ) and A get in close and shatter his Susanoo with a combined hit. Don't bother saying he can't get distracted by Chiyo , he's facing off againgst 10 Puppet's controlled by a Puppet master that have PERFECT team work. Tsunade and A destroyed Madara's rib cage with little effort ( physically ) . Mei counter's all Futon and covers Sasuke in Lava, he dies! Or Tsunade and A get greedy and break every single bone in his body.

Tsunade can kick or punch up a Earth Wall to block Amaterasu, Chiyo has the Chakra Shield ( which wont last long but still haha ) and A is fast enough to dodge it himself and pick Mei up by her ass.
This is pathetic.
Sasuke spams enton shurikens at sight. Biatches go down in first couple seconds, then A is only one left and all he can do is run around for a while
 

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Stupid Sasuke fan boy , tsk tsk .

Tsunade Strength > Susanoo
A's Speed > Sasuke's speed
Mei's Suiton > Sasuke's Futon

Strength of a Hundred allow's Tsunade to get close enough with A to obliterate Susanoo, while Chiyo distract's Sasuke with her White Secret Technique: The Chikamatsu Collection of Ten Puppets. Mei counter's all Futon attempt's and cover's Sasuke in torrent's of Lava after Susanoo is long gone, via Tsunade and A. If he attempt's to dodge A will punch him back into it.

Did you not see the short encounter with A,Tsunade and Mei taking on Madara?
He resorted to using a Wood Clone... Sasuke does not have that option .
Sasuke vs 3 Kage and a Highly experience War veteran.

Sasuke at the most would last 3 minutes. Bloodlust Kage's and Chiyo take this Easy.

Sasuke with Futon? hahaha..this shows you have no idea what you're talking about son.

Sasuke wins low to mid diff
 

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Stupid Sasuke fan boy , tsk tsk .

Tsunade Strength > Susanoo
A's Speed > Sasuke's speed
Mei's Suiton > Sasuke's Futon

Strength of a Hundred allow's Tsunade to get close enough with A to obliterate Susanoo, while Chiyo distract's Sasuke with her White Secret Technique: The Chikamatsu Collection of Ten Puppets. Mei counter's all Futon attempt's and cover's Sasuke in torrent's of Lava after Susanoo is long gone, via Tsunade and A. If he attempt's to dodge A will punch him back into it.

Did you not see the short encounter with A,Tsunade and Mei taking on Madara?
He resorted to using a Wood Clone... Sasuke does not have that option .
Sasuke vs 3 Kage and a Highly experience War veteran.

Sasuke at the most would last 3 minutes. Bloodlust Kage's and Chiyo take this Easy.

Slap yourself. All these attacks are easily tanked by a Lvl 4 Susanoo.
 

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How the eff is EMS Sasuke defeating 3 Kage and a Highly experienced War Veteran !!?

I laugh at your ignorance, nice day dreaming.
Let me some my own theory up.

Chiyo distracts Sasuke with her 10 White Puppet Collection, Tsunade ( Strength of a Hundred activated ) and A get in close and shatter his Susanoo with a combined hit. Don't bother saying he can't get distracted by Chiyo , he's facing off againgst 10 Puppet's controlled by a Puppet master that have PERFECT team work. Tsunade and A destroyed Madara's rib cage with little effort ( physically ) . Mei counter's all Futon and covers Sasuke in Lava, he dies! Or Tsunade and A get greedy and break every single bone in his body.

Tsunade can kick or punch up a Earth Wall to block Amaterasu, Chiyo has the Chakra Shield ( which wont last long but still haha ) and A is fast enough to dodge it himself and pick Mei up by her ass.

Which Manga are you reading? Tsunade is one-shotted with Magatama, together with Miss Chiyo. They are burnt alive in a matter of seconds. A is taken out in the barrage or when he approaches close, a single point blank enton arrow or even a few Magatamas kill him there and then.

Mei's Lava attack couldn't get past a rib-cage Susano'o, and she's tanking a levl 4 Susano'o somehow? Keep dreaming. She is also one shotted with a single arrow. This is a low-difference win.
 
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