EMS Sasuke vs Tsunade, 4th Kazekage and Mei

[Icelerate]

The Kazekage and the Mizukage can counter the arrows and the magatams. The 4th with his sand, the 5th with her suiton ( especially in the 2nd scenario, where she can create powerful Suitons ).
Against the Amaterasu, I don't know what can they do.

If Kakashi can't make hand seals when a susanoo arrow is coming at him then how does Mei have time to use suiton to defend deflect the arrows?

Mei solos.
Hidden mist jutsu = Gg sharingan
From there it's lava release to trap them in a dome/kazekage makes a gold dome and boil release to eat away at him through susano . he won't see it coming because he can't see shit through the mist.

*he won't get time to amaterasu because between activating ms, gathering chakra and bleeding eye, me I has already done hidden mist and Sasuke doesn't know where to aim.
Tsunade and gaara's dad are there to t-bag the corpse

1. Fine then the three kages will be blinded by their own mist and Sasuke can spam

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to kill them. They'll be blinded by their own mist so they won't see those magatamas coming, therefore the kages can't dodge them.

2. Susanoo tanks the acid mist like has been canonically done. Sasuke was low on chakra and only had rib cage susanoo so any level of susanoo made by a healthy Sasuke easily tanks the acid mist.

3. Amaterasu is actually very fast in its activation and you exagerrate the

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. It only took one panel for the eyes to bleed and amaterasu to spawn which is far faster than the jutsus of any of the kages that Sasuke is up against.

Sasuke gets beaten. His gold dust is as fast as gaara's sand

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and he has 3rd eye too.

And can do this in one handsign with no prep

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mist blinds sasuke,and he pulls sasuke out into a super punch. The end

The 4th Kazekage can't pull Sasuke out of susanoo without first restraining it like Gaara did and even if he does do that, Gaara needed his sand to become lightened, but unfortunately, Onoki is not here to lighten it and the 4th Kazekage's gold is much heavier. Furthermore, how exactly does gold magically seep inside susanoo without Sasuke knowing about it? Also how exactly does gold not melt due to the heat of amaterasu? He is not Gaara whose sand is resistant to heat, featless gold melts in the face of flames that can burn away a humans in

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or burn through flame resistant stomach of a toad.

OT: Sasuke wins mid difficulty.

 

[genii96]

The 4th Kazekage can't pull Sasuke out of susanoo without first restraining it like Gaara did and even if he does do that, Gaara needed his sand to become lightened, but unfortunately, Onoki is not here to lighten it and the 4th Kazekage's gold is much heavier. Furthermore, how exactly does gold magically seep inside susanoo without Sasuke knowing about it? Also how exactly does gold not melt due to the heat of amaterasu? He is not Gaara whose sand is resistant to heat, featless gold melts in the face of flames that can burn away a humans in

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or burn through flame resistant stomach of a toad.

OT: Sasuke wins mid difficulty.

er,he restrained shukaku without help,i think he can handle it,and he dosent even have to pull him out,gaara needed to do that cuz he needed to seal him,sasuke isnt an edo,so he can just crush him in there. He uses jiton,weight isnt a problem,he just attracts and repels it. Besides

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his gold speed matched gaara's sand speed.

Sasuke wont know cuz it will erupt from beneath him. Ofcourse,he can just use his jitonon sasuke's sword,to attack him as well as those explosive tags he keeps with him,you know they are made of metal right?.

Gold is quite good with heat,melting at abt 1500 degrees,though amaterasu is said to be "as hot as the sun" which is an obvious hyperbole,since of that were true then the earth would melt at the heat.

However,to burn through it,he needs to focus the amaterasu,which will be impossible seeing as he will be attacked while doing that,or the kazekage can fire a gold dust wave at him to stop him from focusing.plus gold conducts heat which would help in reducing the potency of amaterasu.

 

[nakumaru]

really just -_-
amaretsu is dodge he has nothing to kill her with.

The 4th Kazekage could beat her. True Story.

 

[Powermill]

Voted Sauske. Don't ask me why.

 

[AGoodBoy]

If Kakashi can't make hand seals when a susanoo arrow is coming at him then how does Mei have time to use suiton to defend deflect the arrows?

1. Fine then the three kages will be blinded by their own mist and Sasuke can spam

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to kill them. They'll be blinded by their own mist so they won't see those magatamas coming, therefore the kages can't dodge them.

2. Susanoo tanks the acid mist like has been canonically done. Sasuke was low on chakra and only had rib cage susanoo so any level of susanoo made by a healthy Sasuke easily tanks the acid mist.

3. Amaterasu is actually very fast in its activation and you exagerrate the

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. It only took one panel for the eyes to bleed and amaterasu to spawn which is far faster than the jutsus of any of the kages that Sasuke is up against.

The 4th Kazekage can't pull Sasuke out of susanoo without first restraining it like Gaara did and even if he does do that, Gaara needed his sand to become lightened, but unfortunately, Onoki is not here to lighten it and the 4th Kazekage's gold is much heavier. Furthermore, how exactly does gold magically seep inside susanoo without Sasuke knowing about it? Also how exactly does gold not melt due to the heat of amaterasu? He is not Gaara whose sand is resistant to heat, featless gold melts in the face of flames that can burn away a humans in

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or burn through flame resistant stomach of a toad.

OT: Sasuke wins mid difficulty.

Are you even serious? Sasuke's precision magatami will be better in the blinding mist than both mei and kazekage's massive AOE attacks? Dude do you even..

Sasuke has to find a moving needle in a haystack. These guys just burn the entire haystack and say **** the needle. (That's a metaphor because I know you'll rebate by taking it literally)

Show me this manga scan of Sasuke tanking mist. The only scan I know of was when sasuke's skin started to burn off. Susano'o isn't air tight, unless Sasuke has some hidden oxygen pump.

It doesn't matter how fast it is. All me I does is breathe out mist and the sharingan is useless. From there they spam large attacks while kazekage has a 3rd eye out of mist to keep an eye out for Sasuke leaving. Add what genii is saying because I'm on a phone.

Susano is buried and restrained like a dog easily.
Sasuke loses mid diff

PS @genii - I'll respond to that other thread tonight when I'm home. Don't like debating on phone when I want to use scans

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

The 4th Kazekage could beat her. True Story.

I'd like to see that :sy:

 

[Unorthodox]

er,he restrained shukaku without help,i think he can handle it,and he dosent even have to pull him out,gaara needed to do that cuz he needed to seal him,sasuke isnt an edo,so he can just crush him in there. He uses jiton,weight isnt a problem,he just attracts and repels it. Besides

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his gold speed matched gaara's sand speed.

Sasuke wont know cuz it will erupt from beneath him. Ofcourse,he can just use his jitonon sasuke's sword,to attack him as well as those explosive tags he keeps with him,you know they are made of metal right?.

Gold is quite good with heat,melting at abt 1500 degrees,though amaterasu is said to be "as hot as the sun" which is an obvious hyperbole,since of that were true then the earth would melt at the heat.

However,to burn through it,he needs to focus the amaterasu,which will be impossible seeing as he will be attacked while doing that,or the kazekage can fire a gold dust wave at him to stop him from focusing.plus gold conducts heat which would help in reducing the potency of amaterasu.

Not likely sasuke susanoo arrow > anything he has to offer he showed no good offensive attack also mei and tsunade are done before they could even aid him here reducing the petency of amaterasu impossible sasuke amaterasu burned fire its self it can not be reduce especailly when sasuke has enton if this fights drags on sasuke destroys them with kirin so it wont matter

 

[-Blade-]

Sasuke... He took on the 5 Kage basically for target practice lmao

 

[nakumaru]

I'd like to see that :sy:

We can debate on it if you want. He's essentially just a weaker version of current Gaara with a more durable defense.

 

[shelke]

Amaterasu has been shown to be Short - Mid range correct?

The Kazekage lifts them all up with his Gold Sand like Gaara does with his regular sand.. This prevents attacks that Sasuke possesses that are short-mid range. This also cancels out the chances of Tsukuyomi which is Short ranged as wel.

Since when?

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- Black Flames will burn on the point wherever the eye is focused - Which means it isn't a projectile and range isn't a factor here. If the opponent is within the range of the eye, he's a target. Don't make assumptions unsupported by Manga.

I am going to requote myself from another thread to highlight the 'eye focus' and Burning nature of a 'focused Amaterasu' before anyone starts nitpicking for the latter and its effect on Gold Sand.

1: Eye Focus:

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Flame Appearance:

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2: Eye Focus:

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Flame Appearance:

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The only reason the flame hit the Samurai, is because it went beyond the point-of-focus. As Amatersau works on line of sight, then the Flame automatically hit the next target in Sasuke’s field of vision. This can be proven through this link: Amatersu goes wherever the eye goes:

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- This is the main reason why flames you following Sasuke during his fight with Itachi, as the flames after 'focus' is complete, follow wherever the user directs his eyes.

Further scans to disprove this projectile claim:

3: Eye Focus:

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Flame Appearance:

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Flame hitting the Target in Sasuke’s line of sight:

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(Shee: It ignites wherever he is looking at) as Amaterasu goes wherever the eye goes:

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, or it follows line-of-sight logic.

Amatersau penetrated the defenses of a tailed beast that are nothing but living Manifestations of Chakra. It even eats through flames which are basically made out of chakra.

Amaterasu is not easily dodged as it took A a fully charged body armour:

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and body flicker:

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(See A leaving a flickering image of himself?) to barely dodge the technique by a hair. Henceforth, this easily avoidable claim is obviously false.

Not to mention Danzo saw it coming – see above scans – along with A:

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- Shee: Counter it with body-flicker - and but he got burnt to crisp and had to use Izanagi to escape death.

Obito also used Izanagi to escape the Jutsu, otherwise his clothes would have been effected. Shinra Tensai isn't a counter for Amaterasu, as it blows the flames off whilst they are still burning. In fact, Nagato never saw it coming, nor did he react to it:

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. He was burning and literally died here:

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- and only regenerated because he was an Edo. Just look the condition of his clothes, which implies that he had released Izanagi beforehand as he elucidated earlier about 'keeping secrets' from Itachi. He was obviously expecting some sort of trap.

Kazegake's Gold Sand is made heavier with a single focused Amaterasu that will spread through the gold sand like wild fire as seen with Hachibi, Danzo, Nagato and his summons, and Obito. This will melt the gold, raise its temperature, and his sand will grow increasingly heavy. He isn't protecting anyone, let alone himself.

Mei and Tsunade are one-shotted with Enton arrows or Magatama as both of them lack any speed feats to dodge them. Gold Sand OR Gaara's sand is not as fast as arrows, that is just hearsay and a funny one at that:

Sussano Arrows were too fast, henceforth Kakashi had to resort to Kamui:

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- Danzo comments that there wasn’t time for a single handseal.

His Sand also won't be be able to stop an Enton arrow, when a regular one speared clean through thick cavern spikes:

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. Enton arrows would give further penetrative and destructive power because of their temperature and Amaterasu's Chakra eating capabilities.

So anything he pulls up - not that he is fast enough to pull this off, but I'll give people here a benefit of doubt here for debating sake- is speared through Enton arrows, his sand is made heavy with a single Amaterasu. How do these people win again? These people will barely push Sasuke to Mid difference. As he can simply get close as well for a hand to hand combat with his ribs form out and Sharingan will give him extra space to dodge attacks.

He was fast enough to dodge Raikage and Bee's V1 speed effortlessly, Kazekage's sand isn't accomplishing anything, and his ribs form is fully capable of tanking a full blown lava attack and hence is sturdy enough to take on other attacks that fall in that tier. His defenses are further amplified with EMS and its immensely tight chakra consumption capabilities, and any so-called minor damage is replenished through chakra supply.

A point blank Amaterasu would finish off Kazekage before he knows what hit him as he isn't faster than Raikage using V2 Armour and Body Flicker to dodge this doujutsu. He can even summon his hawk and stand on it with this form out and use this same technique from a safe distance. People should stop spouting rubbish. These people have nothing on EMS Sasuke.

Low Difference and low-mid if Sasuke doesn't take out Kazekage first without any sweating from EMS Sasuke.

Show me this manga scan of Sasuke tanking mist. The only scan I know of was when sasuke's skin started to burn off. Susano'o isn't air tight, unless Sasuke has some hidden oxygen pump.

My goodness. Sigh Sasuke tanked Mei's point blank Lava attack. And the only reason Mist penetrated or started effecting his Ribs form was because of the factor that he was low on Chakra and even tried to climb to a higher tier, which completely sapped the last bit of his strength. The mist was NOT penetrating before he tried to climb it, and only did so after he was on his last leg; a fact accepted by Mei and Karin:

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- Mei uses Lava attack on a Rib form, which isn't surrounding Sasuke at all, yet the Lava doesn't leak inside Susano'o, not is it damaged in any form, in fact it takes a full on hit from her Guard as well. Which means Mist isn't leaking anywhere.

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- It only penetrates when he tried to jump to a higher tier in the previous image and loses a ton of Chakra in the process. Both Mei and Karin attest to that -

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. So yeah, he tanked a Lava attack, took another hit, the Mist never penetrated before and only did so because he was low on Chakra.

There you have it; Mist tanked effortlessly. If you believe that Sasuke would not be able to tank something as measly like Mist in CS form, when he effortlessly tanked a lava attack and her guard's direct hit - don't want to repeat myself on Chakra loss points - and would somehow get effected in CS with Kagatsuchi, then LOL @ your logic. Try to reread the manga carefully. Mei is a fodder here.

 

[Icelerate]

er,he restrained shukaku without help,i think he can handle it,and he dosent even have to pull him out,gaara needed to do that cuz he needed to seal him,sasuke isnt an edo,so he can just crush him in there. He uses jiton,weight isnt a problem,he just attracts and repels it. Besides

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his gold speed matched gaara's sand speed.

Sure but how is the 4th Kazekage getting gold inside susanoo if Gaara needed Onoki's help to do so and there were a lot of others on the battlefield that Madara was fighting? Never mind that, Gaara would have stomped Madara if he could replicate that feat again but it was only a one time thing. Anyway everyone's susanoo is different and Sasuke or Itachi have not showed the underground weakness or else Kabuto or even Kimimaro would stomp them with Sawarbi no mae.

Using jiton or whatever will make it harder to get gold inside susanoo if it is even possible since getting a magnet underneath a building is impossible.

Sasuke wont know cuz it will erupt from beneath him. Ofcourse,he can just use his jitonon sasuke's sword,to attack him as well as those explosive tags he keeps with him,you know they are made of metal right?.

Just because it will be beneath him doesn't mean he won't be able to react to it. Anyway why would Sasuke use swords against three kage level shinobi? Explosive tags... He doesn't need them and no they aren't made of metal only kunai are. The explosive tags are attached to kunai. Going by your logic, the 4th Kazekage can stomp Pain by pulling out those metal receivers out.

Gold is quite good with heat,melting at abt 1500 degrees,though amaterasu is said to be "as hot as the sun" which is an obvious hyperbole,since of that were true then the earth would melt at the heat.

The surface of the sun is 5500 degrees Celsius which is far hotter than the boiling point of gold. Anyway stuff doesn't happen because of plot and you know it or else how did Naruto in part 1 manage to beat Gaara? Why didn't the tree that Shikamaru was standing behind not get cut when Temari used her jutsus? It is all a case of plot you know. Why didn't Madara trash the five kages immediately via perfect susanoo? Why didn't Tobi just warp all nine jinchuriki while they were asleep?

However,to burn through it,he needs to focus the amaterasu,which will be impossible seeing as he will be attacked while doing that,or the kazekage can fire a gold dust wave at him to stop him from focusing.plus gold conducts heat which would help in reducing the potency of amaterasu.

No, Sasuke's attacks are far faster than any of the three kages so they'll be on the defensive. If the 4th decides to send his gold to attack Sasuke, all Sasuke has to do is look at him and he won't have gold to defend himself since it is on the offensive.

Are you even serious? Sasuke's precision magatami will be better in the blinding mist than both mei and kazekage's massive AOE attacks? Dude do you even..

Sasuke has to find a moving needle in a haystack. These guys just burn the entire haystack and say **** the needle. (That's a metaphor because I know you'll rebate by taking it literally)

Show me this manga scan of Sasuke tanking mist. The only scan I know of was when sasuke's skin started to burn off. Susano'o isn't air tight, unless Sasuke has some hidden oxygen pump.

Mei has massive area of effect attacks? Manga scans please... Sasuke's enton magatamas will be spammed in all directions and then those flames will spread and burn everything around them. Alternatively, Sasuke could spread amaterasu moat around him and then spread it out killing these three or at least Mei and Tsunade.

Also you fail to realize that in the blinding mist, if the kages start using AoE attacks, none of them can do anything to Sasuke's susanoo and they'll just end up hitting each other.

It doesn't matter how fast it is. All me I does is breathe out mist and the sharingan is useless. From there they spam large attacks while kazekage has a 3rd eye out of mist to keep an eye out for Sasuke leaving. Add what genii is saying because I'm on a phone.

Shelke already gave you proof that the mist was useless and against a superior version of susanoo, it will do absolutely nothing. The 3rd eye will disintegrate in the acid mist. If the corrosive mist mix with the air Sasuke breathes inside susanoo then his lungs would have melted but that didn't happen in the manga so your point is moot.

 

[nakumaru]

2 points

- Melting point of Gold is 2000 degrees, not 1500

- the 4th can more than enough gold to attack and defend at the same time.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Since when?

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- Black Flames will burn on the point wherever the eye is focused - Which means it isn't a projectile and range isn't a factor here. If the opponent is within the range of the eye, he's a target. Don't make assumptions unsupported by Manga.

I am going to requote myself from another thread to highlight the 'eye focus' and Burning nature of a 'focused Amaterasu' before anyone starts nitpicking for the latter and its effect on Gold Sand.



Kazegake's Gold Sand is made heavier with a single focused Amaterasu that will spread through the gold sand like wild fire as seen with Hachibi, Danzo, Nagato and his summons, and Obito. This will melt the gold, raise its temperature, and his sand will grow increasingly heavy. He isn't protecting anyone, let alone himself.

Mei and Tsunade are one-shotted with Enton arrows or Magatama as both of them lack any speed feats to dodge them. Gold Sand OR Gaara's sand is not as fast as arrows, that is just hearsay and a funny one at that:

Sussano Arrows were too fast, henceforth Kakashi had to resort to Kamui:

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- Danzo comments that there wasn’t time for a single handseal.

His Sand also won't be be able to stop an Enton arrow, when a regular one speared clean through thick cavern spikes:

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and

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. Enton arrows would give further penetrative and destructive power because of their temperature and Amaterasu's Chakra eating capabilities.

So anything he pulls up - not that he is fast enough to pull this off, but I'll give people here a benefit of doubt here for debating sake- is speared through Enton arrows, his sand is made heavy with a single Amaterasu. How do these people win again? These people will barely push Sasuke to Mid difference. As he can simply get close as well for a hand to hand combat with his ribs form out and Sharingan will give him extra space to dodge attacks.

He was fast enough to dodge Raikage and Bee's V1 speed effortlessly, Kazekage's sand isn't accomplishing anything, and his ribs form is fully capable of tanking a full blown lava attack and hence is sturdy enough to take on other attacks that fall in that tier. His defenses are further amplified with EMS and its immensely tight chakra consumption capabilities, and any so-called minor damage is replenished through chakra supply.

A point blank Amaterasu would finish off Kazekage before he knows what hit him as he isn't faster than Raikage using V2 Armour and Body Flicker to dodge this doujutsu. He can even summon his hawk and stand on it with this form out and use this same technique from a safe distance. People should stop spouting rubbish. These people have nothing on EMS Sasuke.

Low Difference and low-mid if Sasuke doesn't take out Kazekage first without any sweating from EMS Sasuke.



My goodness. Sigh Sasuke tanked Mei's point blank Lava attack. And the only reason Mist penetrated or started effecting his Ribs form was because of the factor that he was low on Chakra and even tried to climb to a higher tier, which completely sapped the last bit of his strength. The mist was NOT penetrating before he tried to climb it, and only did so after he was on his last leg; a fact accepted by Mei and Karin:

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- Mei uses Lava attack on a Rib form, which isn't surrounding Sasuke at all, yet the Lava doesn't leak inside Susano'o, not is it damaged in any form, in fact it takes a full on hit from her Guard as well. Which means Mist isn't leaking anywhere.

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- It only penetrates when he tried to jump to a higher tier in the previous image and loses a ton of Chakra in the process. Both Mei and Karin attest to that -

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. So yeah, he tanked a Lava attack, took another hit, the Mist never penetrated before and only did so because he was low on Chakra.

There you have it; Mist tanked effortlessly. If you believe that Sasuke would not be able to tank something as measly like Mist in CS form, when he effortlessly tanked a lava attack and her guard's direct hit - don't want to repeat myself on Chakra loss points - and would somehow get effected in CS with Kagatsuchi, then LOL @ your logic. Try to reread the manga carefully. Mei is a fodder here.

I don't know where you're getting your facts from.

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He's getting corroded through the susano'o. It's just acidic Air. susano is chakra that blocks physical attacks, not air. It doesn't matter if he went to a higher state because...

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Madara was in a higher state and his susano was getting melted by just the lava. The mist does that + attacks his skin. All the need to do is make sure he sits in the mist/lava which can easily be done by pinning him down with gold. I don't know where you got that his susano is going to tank Lava. (notice the level of madara's susano'o that's being affected. Sasuke only has 1 level after this, and it also will be affected)

When Sasuke in this...

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All While Tsunade can heal everyone, and mei nullified his water attacks with water, while kazekage nullified his raiton with dust, and pins down his susano'o.

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Is the day that he wins. But I honestly Don't see how you think his small, precision attacks will hit before the kages' massive attacks.. But, hey, that's all up to you.

He can't see so he can't; aamaterasu a target, genjutsu anyone. Even if he flies he can't see them but kazekage's third eye can see him and help the others co-ordinate attacks. That plus the fact that tsunade can summon katsuya and kazekage can use dust to bring him down...
He can't fight at short range because one hit from tsunade breaks his susano'o or kills him if she hits him or uses BPD on him so he can't move right.
He can't fight med range because mei is med range and water dragon blasts him away.
He can't fight long range because kazekage is a long range fighter.
He isn't getting an advantage with a summon, because a tiny hawk isn't doing anyone anything.
He isn't using genjutsu when he can't see. Even if he does it on kazekage (through third eye), mei/tsunade break him out.
He isn't out ninjutsuing them because... lol i don't have to explain.
He isn't the best defence because water spout + water dragon blasts all his katons to mars and carries his susano'o with them. Kazekage's sand offers a wider defence and more impenetrable.
He isn't getting an edge with speed because the numbers are too large to really on speed alone to get close.
All he has is a 1 shot amaterasu that might work if he's able to use it. No, not even enton, amaterasu, because

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Happens to it.

Sasuke loses. I don't know what he pays you to sit on his lap this much, but you should charge more.

EDIT: @Icelerate. Shelke gave me 404'd pages. The pages i give you (which is what i assume he sent) tell a different story. You fail to realise that the kages are a team. Why would they attack each other? I don't remember kazekage killing all his teammates with a gold dust tsunami... They'd co-ordinate attacks, and it's easy for mei to tell kazekage to put up a barrier( a gold dust orb around him and tsunade, like what gaara used in chunnin exams) because she's about to shit on sasuke's skin... Also, the third eye is out of the fog so he can see the surrounding area. How is it getting melted if it's out of danger close? What...? Sasuke's enton crap spammed wherever he wants still needs to hit them. While there's a giant wave comming towards him (that he can't see), that isn't happening.Your last point also makes no sense. How am i to know how kishi thinks? You're trying to tell me that no acidic mist sipped in and sasuke's skin correded from clean air? Well, ok then.

*This is ridiculous. In one thread I'm arguing for sasuke, and in the other i'm arguing against. :leaf:

 

[shelke]

^ I don't know where you are getting your facts from. I already completely disputed this with several images concerning Mei's lava attack and then the mist only eating away at the Susano'o, and then when Sasuke tried to climb to a higher tier, it leaks Susano'o and starts corroding his skin. Mei and Karin both confirm that h is low on Chakra. Sasuke effortlessly tanked her attack with a mere ribs form and my scans prove it. Maybe if you bothered to actually look at them, you would know.

Too bad, that's Kakashi's Sharingan then, as Sasuke was able to see Kabuto even behind a pillar and see Deidara's bombs through the earth, even though they were underground. Sharingan gives colour to Chakra regardless of any hindrance for a true Uchiha as Sasuke displayed on both account. Even if the mist blocks out the surrounds, it would not hinder Sasuke's detection for Chakra.

Already refuted with my points here. Don't compare Kakashi's eyes to Sasuke who was able to see Chakra even behind objects and underground. They aren't escaping anything. That is an Enton used as Defense. I am not sure what are you trying to venture here. And Tsunade gets Sasuke with speed? You must be joking. In close up Taijutsu match, Tsunade is toast because of her slow speed.

 

[nakumaru]

^ I don't know where you are getting your facts from. I already completely disputed this with several images concerning Mei's lava attack and then the mist only eating away at the Susano'o, and then when Sasuke tried to climb to a higher tier, it leaks Susano'o and starts corroding his skin. Mei and Karin both confirm that h is low on Chakra. Sasuke effortlessly tanked her attack with a mere ribs form and my scans prove it. Maybe if you bothered to actually look at them, you would know.

Too bad, that's Kakashi's Sharingan then, as Sasuke was able to see Kabuto even behind a pillar and see Deidara's bombs through the earth, even though they were underground. Sharingan gives colour to Chakra regardless of any hindrance for a true Uchiha as Sasuke displayed on both account. Even if the mist blocks out the surrounds, it would not hinder Sasuke's detection for Chakra.

Already refuted with my points here. Don't compare Kakashi's eyes to Sasuke who was able to see Chakra even behind objects and underground. They aren't escaping anything. That is an Enton used as Defense. I am not sure what are you trying to venture here. And Tsunade gets Sasuke with speed? You must be joking. In close up Taijutsu match, Tsunade is toast because of her slow speed.

Sasuke wasn't able to see Deidara who was in the clay bird.

 

[AGoodBoy]

^ I don't know where you are getting your facts from. I already completely disputed this with several images concerning Mei's lava attack and then the mist only eating away at the Susano'o, and then when Sasuke tried to climb to a higher tier, it leaks Susano'o and starts corroding his skin. Mei and Karin both confirm that h is low on Chakra. Sasuke effortlessly tanked her attack with a mere ribs form and my scans prove it. Maybe if you bothered to actually look at them, you would know.

Too bad, that's Kakashi's Sharingan then, as Sasuke was able to see Kabuto even behind a pillar and see Deidara's bombs through the earth, even though they were underground. Sharingan gives colour to Chakra regardless of any hindrance for a true Uchiha as Sasuke displayed on both account. Even if the mist blocks out the surrounds, it would not hinder Sasuke's detection for Chakra.

Already refuted with my points here. Don't compare Kakashi's eyes to Sasuke who was able to see Chakra even behind objects and underground. They aren't escaping anything. That is an Enton used as Defense. I am not sure what are you trying to venture here. And Tsunade gets Sasuke with speed? You must be joking. In close up Taijutsu match, Tsunade is toast because of her slow speed.

They confirm he's low on stamina not that his susano'o was out. I showed you images to that prove otherwise. There's no way it'd just start seeping in because he tried to climb to a higher tier.

Don't see how fog and a rock are related.

Sasuke wasn't able to see Deidara who was in the clay bird.

You really make it sound like sasuke is in a 1v1 lul. Considering she's not the only one there and he isn't 1v1 against her, nope i'm not joking. He isn't getting a chance to give her so much undivided attention that he can't get flanked by 1 of the 3 people. He has an EMS, not a byakugan. No eyes behind his head, sorry, he needs to turn.

I'll wait for someone to actually post something relevant.

 

[nakumaru]

They confirm he's low on stamina not that his susano'o was out. I showed you images to that prove otherwise. There's no way it'd just start seeping in because he tried to climb to a higher tier.

Don't see how fog and a rock are related.


You really make it sound like sasuke is in a 1v1 lul. Considering she's not the only one there and he isn't 1v1 against her, nope i'm not joking. He isn't getting a chance to give her so much undivided attention that he can't get flanked by 1 of the 3 people. He has an EMS, not a byakugan. No eyes behind his head, sorry, he needs to turn.

I'll wait for someone to actually post something relevant.

My post was I response to shelke saying that Sharingan can see through opaque objects.

 

[shelke]

They confirm he's low on stamina not that his susano'o was out. I showed you images to that prove otherwise. There's no way it'd just start seeping in because he tried to climb to a higher tier.

Don't see how fog and a rock are related.

You really make it sound like sasuke is in a 1v1 lul. Considering she's not the only one there and he isn't 1v1 against her, nope i'm not joking. He isn't getting a chance to give her so much undivided attention that he can't get flanked by 1 of the 3 people. He has an EMS, not a byakugan. No eyes behind his head, sorry, he needs to turn.

I'll wait for someone to actually post something relevant.

Did it leak in before? It didn't, which means that the acid mist isn't capable of leaking inside Susano'o. You can see the mist eating away at ribs but it didn't penetrate it, not until he wasn't completely low on Chakra. At that point, even Zetsu was able to get inside his Susano'o, which isn't possible under any normal circumstances. It means, his Susano'o was extremely flimsy and fragile at that point.

I hope to god, you are joking. Mist is condensed liquid and doesn't provide hindrance compared to an object that is completely hidden underground or behind any obstacle. The fact that Sasuke was able to see beyond the surface proves that Mist wouldn't block out anyone's Chakra when ground or the solid spike didn't. Your point doesn't even make any sense.

@NakuMaru A replacement clone, you mean? Only EMS is able to see through more complex clones. Sasuke obviously wasn't expecting that.

 

[genii96]

Sure but how is the 4th Kazekage getting gold inside susanoo if Gaara needed Onoki's help to do so and there were a lot of others on the battlefield that Madara was fighting? Never mind that, Gaara would have stomped Madara if he could replicate that feat again but it was only a one time thing. Anyway everyone's susanoo is different and Sasuke or Itachi have not showed the underground weakness or else Kabuto or even Kimimaro would stomp them with Sawarbi no mae.

Using jiton or whatever will make it harder to get gold inside susanoo if it is even possible since getting a magnet underneath a building is impossible.

Just because it will be beneath him doesn't mean he won't be able to react to it. Anyway why would Sasuke use swords against three kage level shinobi? Explosive tags... He doesn't need them and no they aren't made of metal only kunai are. The explosive tags are attached to kunai. Going by your logic, the 4th Kazekage can stomp Pain by pulling out those metal receivers out.

The surface of the sun is 5500 degrees Celsius which is far hotter than the boiling point of gold. Anyway stuff doesn't happen because of plot and you know it or else how did Naruto in part 1 manage to beat Gaara? Why didn't the tree that Shikamaru was standing behind not get cut when Temari used her jutsus? It is all a case of plot you know. Why didn't Madara trash the five kages immediately via perfect susanoo? Why didn't Tobi just warp all nine jinchuriki while they were asleep?

No, Sasuke's attacks are far faster than any of the three kages so tqahey'll be on the defensive. If the 4th decides to send his gold to attack Sasuke, all Sasuke has to do is look at him and he won't have gold to defend himself since it is on the offensive.

Mei has massive area of effect attacks? Manga scans please... Sasuke's enton magatamas will be spammed in all directions and then those flames will spread and burn everything around them. Alternatively, Sasuke could spread amaterasu moat around him and then spread it out killing these three or at least Mei and Tsunade.

Also you fail to realize that in the blinding mist, if the kages start using AoE attacks, none of them can do anything to Sasuke's susanoo and they'll just end up hitting each other.

Shelke already gave you proof that the mist was useless and against a superior version of susanoo, it will do absolutely nothing. The 3rd eye will disintegrate in the acid mist. If the corrosive mist mix with the air Sasuke breathes inside susanoo then his lungs would have melted but that didn't happen in the manga so your point is moot.

gaara used the sand already underneath mdara to pull him out,onoki's jutsu just made it easier to manipulate his sand with less strain,as he had faced 3 kages back to back and been fighting for long. Gaara didnt do it again cuz madara kinda started throwing meteors,and i am pretty sure tanking those meteors with low chakra aint easy, madara would have started to watch out for it again.

Actually didnt itachi have to protect sasuke from muko tensei?,and got impaled instead?. After gaara pulled him out,madara then used his legged version anyway. If kimi uses bone forest,it will kill them actually,kabuto didnt want to do that. Not saying kimi beats them:|

actually,the kazekage himself is the magnet,and can use his magnetic field to draw any magnetic object towards or away from him.if he was able to get his magnetic chakra all the way to the earth's crust to pull out gold,he can do the same under susanoo. He dosent have to get gold inside from outside,he just pulls it out of the ground beneath sasuke,or controls it from underneath the ground.

It dosent matter if he dosent use the swords,he keeps it close,as well as his kunais and shurikens,the kazekage can use those to attack him inside susanoo,and since he is inside,there is not much space to dodge. To react to it,he has to see it coming,which would be difficult seeing as he would be under pressure,and even if he reacts to it,he is still inside susanoo,jow much space does he have to evade?.
Yes,he could pull the chakra receivers out,or is there anything stopping him,they are made of metal arent they?,is the logic flawed?

If sasuke focuses his amaterasu,yes it will go through,but if he dosent,it wont as already seen several times. Mei's mist wont allow sasuke see to focus, how can sasuke focus through gold waves when the kazekage can simultaneously attack him from below and insisde susanoo with his weapons?.

Also,gold is highly resistant to being corroded,so acid mist wont do anything to sand eye. His gold speed equals gaara's sand speed,which surpasses sasuke's.

 

[AGoodBoy]

My post was I response to shelke saying that Sharingan can see through opaque objects.

Sorry, that was meant as proof. I was using the quote to reinforce what I was saying.

@shekle- you're no longer arguing with me, you're arguing with the manga. Apparently you wish kishi did things differently. Manga goes against everything you say.
For all I know, it's chakra infused mist. Take it up with kishI because he's blinded 3 tomoe, ms and ems with it. I just provide manga evidence not what I wish should happen