EMS Sasuke vs. SM Naruto

[Beans2]

Naruto can win this. Amaterasu/enton can be countered like it was at VoTE (since Naruto is friends with the Kyubi), or Naruto senses the pressure build-up and makes a kage bunshin right in front of him to block LoS. FRS obliterates him because Sasuke doesn't have the speed to dodge the attack or explosion radius. Naruto definitely wins Scenario 2.

 

[LuckyMan]

Forget what I said about the frog kata, that was probably wrong. I think Sasuke wins this matchup, though, since he can avoid getting caught in CQC and his perception and shunshin can evade Naruto's rasengan/rasenshuriken variants.

How does Sasuke beat him though?

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

How does Sasuke beat him though?

Enton, Enton manipulation, and Kirin

 

[KingHashirama]

EMS Sasuke.

 

[LuckyMan]

Enton, Enton manipulation, and Kirin

But how? Enton is dodged through his danger sensing. If he summons the hawk to try and fly up Naruto drops a boss toad on him from above or he has his toad to leap up and throw Rasenshuriken at him and nothing suggests Garuda (his hawk) can evade it in time.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

But how? Enton is dodged through his danger sensing. If he summons the hawk to try and fly up Naruto drops a boss toad on him from above or he has his toad to leap up and throw Rasenshuriken at him and nothing suggests Garuda (his hawk) can evade it in time.

The most Naruto can do is make clones or utilize the cloaks to counter amaterasu. I don't think his speed is fast enough to avoid it. Summonings get burnt by amaterasu, and with constant spammage of this technique + a couple of fire dragons shot at the sky, kirin can be prepped feasibly.

 

[Holy God]

But how? Enton is dodged through his danger sensing. If he summons the hawk to try and fly up Naruto drops a boss toad on him from above or he has his toad to leap up and throw Rasenshuriken at him and nothing suggests Garuda (his hawk) can evade it in time.

You forget that Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi allows Sasuke free manipulation of Amaterasu. Even if Naruto was able to dodge something like an arrow or sword, Sasuke can simply change it to extend towards Naruto's new position. It definitely isn't going to be easy.

 

[LuckyMan]

The most Naruto can do is make clones or utilize the cloaks to counter amaterasu. I don't think his speed is fast enough to avoid it. Summonings get burnt by amaterasu, and with constant spammage of this technique + a couple of fire dragons shot at the sky, kirin can be prepped feasibly.

He has danger sensing and can wait until the last second it materializes then evade. I only brought up the boss toad because you brought up Kirin. He'd have to be at a high elevation to shoot the fire into the sky and his only way of getting there is on his hawk. Naruto can summon boss toad and have him leap on to Sasuke and knock him down.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

He has danger sensing and can wait until the last second it materializes then evade. I only brought up the boss toad because you brought up Kirin. He'd have to be at a high elevation to shoot the fire into the sky and his only way of getting there is on his hawk. Naruto can summon boss toad and have him leap on to Sasuke and knock him down.

He's not fast enough to do that just using Sage Mode.

Sasuke was standing more or less close to ground level when he shot his fire dragons into the sky here

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So he doesn't need to summon the hawk. He might need to get up to an elevated position to call the lightning dragon, but it doesn't have to be on the hawk.

 

[LuckyMan]

He's not fast enough to do that just using Sage Mode.

Sasuke was standing more or less close to ground level when he shot his fire dragons into the sky here

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So he doesn't need to summon the hawk. He might need to get up to an elevated position to call the lightning dragon, but it doesn't have to be on the hawk.

I think he might be fast enough to do it. Amaterasu is not instant so Naruto should be able to sense the impending danger and move out the way with his quick reflexes. I'm not saying hes faster than V2 Ay but he makes up for the speed with his sensory.

They were actually on a roof when Sasuke did that and that entire hideout was on a huge elevation compared to the flat land around it.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

I think he might be fast enough to do it. Amaterasu is not instant so Naruto should be able to sense the impending danger and move out the way with his quick reflexes. I'm not saying hes faster than V2 Ay but he makes up for the speed with his sensory.

They were actually on a roof when Sasuke did that and that entire hideout was on a huge elevation compared to the flat land around it.

He can mentally react, but not physically.

He shot the fire dragons from the floor, which was close to the ground. It's not like the fire will dissipitate and not reach the sky if he does shoot it up in the air.

 

[Bogard]

Naruto wins this

- He is faster, stronger than Sasuke in close close combat and even possess invisible punches(frog katas) to end the fight in one instant. So close combat is dangerous for Sasuke

- Frog Kata also give Naruto a pseudo flight allowing him to observe from afar and attack from a distance

- As a Sage, he can fight even eyes close without problems removing the genjutsu danger. If not he can sense/feel it(he directly realised Sakura was placed inside Sasuke's genjutsu) or use clones as diversion

- Chou Odama Rasenshuriken he used to obbliterate the 2 wood dragons should be able to obbliterate Sasuke's Susanoo. If not, he can use multiple of them

- Tired Naruto already showed enough reflexes to block Amaterasu with a chakra arm, so let alone healthy SM Naruto with danger sensing and frog kata. He should be able to dodge it before/during the formation just like how he dodged Madara's invisible limbo. He also has great enough shunshin to blitz right away. Also, when using Frog Kata, the natural energy used by the practitioner to create senjutsu chakra also surrounds the user in an aura of that same natural energy. This aura can act as an extension of their body and cannot be seen by anyone other than those who have trained in senjutsu. So Naruto should be able to deflect Amaterasu with this energy even if he were somehow caught(highly unlikely) similarly to how he did with the chakra arm

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

Naruto gets stomped

No way is Naruto dodging Enton, when Ay needed V2 to dodge that. V1 Ay is faster than SM Naruto.

And idgaf if he can sense it, he does not have the body/speed to dodge it.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sasuke low difficulty.

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[DemonicAvenger]

Sasuke takes the first scenario Mid-Diff.

- Naruto doesn't have the speed to utilize FRS against Sasuke, it just turns into more Enton for Sasuke to use

- Massive gap in speed, EMS Sasuke and KCM Naruto were reacting faster than KCM Minato with FTG in certain situations. His combat speed was also shown to be in a similar league to theirs.

Scenario 2 could work out in Naruto's favor, but that's all dependent on how Sasuke would deal with Bunshin spam.​

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[Kakashistomps]

Sasuke wins low diff, bad match up

 

[makosheva7]

Sasuke wins SC1 mid diff. Flame control upkeep for only three clones would be too much for Naruto.

SC2 is more interesting. With EMS Sasuke can spam flame control as much as he wants but Naruto has hundreds maybe thousands of clones to eat it while many of them can get a FRS in at Sasuke. Genjutsu is a non factor for obvious reasons. Without Susano'o Naruto eventually tags Sasuke with an FRS and it's game over mid-high diff.

 

[Red Slayer]

Sasuke wins, SM isn't enought, make it KCSM and maybe Naruto wins...