EMS Sasuke vs MS Obito.

[General Lex]

I have to go with Obito. EMS Sasuke really doesn't seem to have a solid answer for Obitos warping and intangibility. EMS Sasuke has more devastating abilities than Obito, but that serves little purpose against an opponent you simply cannot hit.

 

[lucario14]

Tracking and reacting are two very different things,
Sasuke tracked V1 juubitos speed,

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since he was still unable to react despite his sharingan being able to track his quick speeds,

another example is kakashi,
he was

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, however he

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which was why he had to resort to using kamui,

Right I'm not saying he can keep up with juubito, but he is superior to ms obito in cqc so he will have superior reflexes.

furthermore, Naruto has KB which are one of the best counters to obitos kamui based moveset due to the KB being able to attack/outnumber him the moment obito solidifies to attack, Sasuke here however doesnt have that, and is still much slower than BM Naruto,
its just that naruto is more suited to fighting obito, then sasuke thats all there is to it,

Sasuke is not slower than BM naruto with his legged susanoo. You can see

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that bsm naruto and cursed seal susanoo time move and attack at the same time. So the susanoo without jugo's power and BM naruto would be similar speed. You're right about the KB thing.

@Bold - Im going to need proof for this, becuase it seems wrong
amaterasu was

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who is clearly

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, as

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on the other hand Kamuis encounter with

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where FTG ''just'' proved faster, the same jutsu that is instant,,

It wasn't the speed of FTG, it was a reactive feat which evaded kamui. How can sasuke not use amaterasu at the same time minato uses FTG...It's just like how minato evaded

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, it was reaction.

with that being said, it is clear from what we have seen that kamui warp is faster than amaterasu, not to mention that kamui phasing is still instant just like FTG, only difference is that obito doesnt rely on any seals or markings (thereby mmaking sasuke unable to spot his next location)

Kamui warp was not fast enough to complete transportation faster than the gudodama did you see the link I posted.

and Obito getting

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, its not a good comparison since the same could be said about sasuke on

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on top of the fact that Obito canonically got rid of the flames, and can continue his warp due to the slow burning effect of the flames, and once sasuke is sent to kamui dimension (which he most likely will) its GG

Kamui phasing is instant but transporting a whole target takes time. Those gudodama madara fired were faster than obito using kamui on himself to transport to kamuiland. Kamui isn't that fast. This will be obito

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. MS sasuke reacted to v2 A before being hit by

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. Ems sasuke has faster reaction than ms sasuke so he could do more than that. So while obito comes up from behind and tries to use kamui, sasuke can quickly react to seeing obito and use amaterasu. While obito is using kamui on sasuke, his body is solid so ama will definitely hit.

If obito can use kamui while he's hit with ama then it's his win. If he can't, it's sasuke's. Also when he did get hit with ama, the black flames must have done serious damage to his body I mean he was screaming in pain, he's not coming back to carry on the conversation with sasuke with minor injuries. My guess is that he canonically got rid of the flames by using izanagi. He had a stack of sharingan at his base he could have used it, transported back to the base, replaced his eye then came back to talk with sasuke.

I say it could go either way.

 

[romeboii]

We have not seen great mokuton feats from obito so how does he use it to stop sasuke. If you ask me any one can beat oito if he is just relying on kamui because he must be tangible in order to attack sasuke has never been slow so i do believe he can touch obito. Fuu andtorune. Touched him konan out smarted him twiceand almost killed hom EMS sasuke would easily take out all three of them with no problem and sasuke is not dumb. Now if obito really fights and uses all of his ability than it is up for debate

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

Lool Obito obliterates negative diff.

 

[synkross]

Obito wins, EMS Sasuke has no counter to Kamui nor the speed to avoid it.
Obito's intangibility is instant.

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Obito said he can wrap ppl the instant he lays a hand on them.

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Even Minato admitted that if Obito touched him, it would be over.

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The only Kamui that takes a bit more time is Obito self jumping to Kamui dimension and even that is faster then KCM Naruto (even at arms length).

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[Unorthodox]

You do realize that Obito's mokuton is larger than final Susanoo no legs, let alone some puny ribcage?

Look at the mist ninjas again

That still isnt getting past a ribcage. It smacked trees in half easily mokuton roots especially obito's havent shown that its any stronger than regular trees ribcage susanoo tanks it effortlessly once the legs of susanoo come out gg obito sasuke just spread enton as far as the eye can see to run of the kamui time . Or he waits for Obito to try in warp him then use amaterasu or Aoda comes in for the kill.

 

[VongolaX]

That still isnt getting past a ribcage. It smacked trees in half easily mokuton roots especially obito's havent shown that its any stronger than regular trees ribcage susanoo tanks it effortlessly once the legs of susanoo come out gg obito sasuke just spread enton as far as the eye can see to run of the kamui time . Or he waits for Obito to try in warp him then use amaterasu or Aoda comes in for the kill.

So Obito is going to sit there and let Sasuke's Susanoo try to fail in crushing mokuton?

Even mizukage's mist got past the ribcage, Tsunade's punch, Raikage's Raiger bomb, and Oonoki's jinton all the same.

Obito's mokuton works from the ground up like he did to the mist ninjas, same concept of gaara's sand to Edo Madara.

So if you are really that senile to think Obito's mokuton will fodderized ribcage mokuton, this list a made should make your assumption completely void.

Any Enton excuses will be completely erase to Obito's rikudou yin yang staff
(As shown canon without the juubi against rikudou Madara)

Ever since leaving the cave at age fourteen, Madara's bestow of power of six path Justu via black rods will also overwhelm Sasuke.

He can shove his hand into his body and absorb all his chakra like he did Rikudou Madara twice.

It's a kill and no capture fight, so Obito won't rely only on kamui.

 

[Demonic.]

That still isnt getting past a ribcage. It smacked trees in half easily mokuton roots especially obito's havent shown that its any stronger than regular trees ribcage susanoo tanks it effortlessly once the legs of susanoo come out gg obito sasuke just spread enton as far as the eye can see to run of the kamui time . Or he waits for Obito to try in warp him then use amaterasu or Aoda comes in for the kill.

Don't argue with Variaboss just look at my sig

 

[VongolaX]

Unorthodox this is my fodder

He's one of those new stupid members that try hard to be relevant, I already smash people like him before.

He'll die out like the rest of them.

We are 2012 members, we are going to have a full out discussion until we reach a conclusion.

Obviously this moron implied in his sig that two space time Justus are not the same speed.

Stupidity

In fact, I think I'm going to quote one of his post on my sig.

Just ignore the brat, he's completely useless.

Now I want your response

 

[Demonic.]

Unorthodox this is my fodder

He's one of those new stupid members that try hard to be relevant, I already smash people like him before.

He'll die out like the rest of them.

We are 2012 members, we are going to have a full out discussion until we reach a conclusion.

Obviously this moron implied in his sig that two space time Justus are not the same speed.

Stupidity

In fact, I think I'm going to quote one of his post on my sig.

Just ignore the brat, he's completely useless.

Now I want your response

FTG=Instant
Minato FTG'd away from Obito warping him means FTG is faster than Kamui

Obito couldn't warp himself fast enough when Naruto was dying inside Kamui, so he needed Kakashi to use his Kamui to double his jumping Speed. Means Kamui again is not instant.

Obito only managed to Kamui snipe one of Kaguyas bones away. If it had been instant Obito could've sniped both of them.

Idgaf if you're a "2012 member" what are you 10 years old? Go ahead and make the thread saying kamui is instant I'd love to see you get laughed at. If you don't I will.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Unorthodox this is my fodder

He's one of those new stupid members that try hard to be relevant, I already smash people like him before.

He'll die out like the rest of them.

We are 2012 members, we are going to have a full out discussion until we reach a conclusion.

Obviously this moron implied in his sig that two space time Justus are not the same speed.

Stupidity

In fact, I think I'm going to quote one of his post on my sig.

Just ignore the brat, he's completely useless.

Now I want your response

XD that arrogance, wow

 

[Demonic.]

Unorthodox this is my fodder

He's one of those new stupid members that try hard to be relevant, I already smash people like him before.

He'll die out like the rest of them.

We are 2012 members, we are going to have a full out discussion until we reach a conclusion.

Obviously this moron implied in his sig that two space time Justus are not the same speed.

Stupidity

In fact, I think I'm going to quote one of his post on my sig.

Just ignore the brat, he's completely useless.

Now I want your response

Yo dumbass

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Your fodder was right and you were wrong. Maybe 2012 members aren't so superior after all =O

just tell him then that a 2011 member told him he's wrong, and a 2012 idiot.

 

[A v i]

Obito wins this.

 

[Sabaku No Gaara100]

Kamui is overrated...nuff said.

 

[Unorthodox]

So Obito is going to sit there and let Sasuke's Susanoo try to fail in crushing mokuton?
Even mizukage's mist got past the ribcage, Tsunade's punch, Raikage's Raiger bomb, and Oonoki's jinton all the same.
Obito's mokuton works from the ground up like he did to the mist ninjas, same concept of gaara's sand to Edo Madara.
So if you are really that senile to think Obito's mokuton will fodderized ribcage mokuton, this list a made should make your assumption completely void.

Ribcage susanoo blocks those mokuton with ease Ei's Liger bomb only cracked susanoo ribcage his ems susanoo ribcage is much more sturdy and durable. Except susanoo ribcage has no underground weakness also susanoo with legs compeletelt counters that underground argument all together. Obito's mokuton gets obliverated by susanoo and Amaterasu/enton the rest of your post was terrible as you were talking about rinnegan obito ms obito had none of the feats you mentioned.

Don't argue with Variaboss just look at my sig

yea ik about him and his terrible post and his obito wank

 

[VongolaX]

Yo dumbass

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Your fodder was right and you were wrong. Maybe 2012 members aren't so superior after all =O

See your stupidity?

Kamui is a space time technique, it is also instant.

F*cking retard

 

[VongolaX]

Ribcage susanoo blocks those mokuton with ease Ei's Liger bomb only cracked susanoo ribcage his ems susanoo ribcage is much more sturdy and durable. Except susanoo ribcage has no underground weakness also susanoo with legs compeletelt counters that underground argument all together. Obito's mokuton gets obliverated by susanoo and Amaterasu/enton the rest of your post was terrible as you were talking about rinnegan obito ms obito had none of the feats you mentioned.





yea ik about him and his terrible post and his obito wank

Ribcage Susanoo is vulnerable underground....

Seeing how incompetent and simple you are, my first post already discussed how mokuton is useless against a legged Susanoo.

Herp derp Herp :|

Your post is terrible because Obito accomplished some of those feats without the rinnegan.

When Obito met Madara, he didn't have the rinnegan did?

That's why he said use the black rods

Rinnegan also doesn't give you yin yang release.

 

[VongolaX]

@ Rikudo Sennin kid:

You're just as big as an idiot as AAS, if not even bigger.

A toll at best

Stfu

 

[Demonic.]

See your stupidity?

Kamui is a space time technique, it is also instant.

F*cking retard

Why do you ignore manga facts you idiot? Minato travels through space and teleports from one spot to another. Obito travels to another dimension altogether you idiot. Are these the same things? NO they're not there's a difference. You're an idiot if you think Obito warps to Kamui land instantly when Madara already proved he couldn't. Minato FTGd faster than Jubi Madara's truth seeking balls when he teleported them away in front of a charging Guy. Obito was to slow to warp away and you actually say FTG=Kamui in speed? Kill yourself idiot.

 

[DarkStar1]

Obito manhandles no diff