It prevents nothing if Minato sends a clone. Also, enton already touched Minato, nothing happened [
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] Since Amaterasu/enton is a different chakra/entity, he just have to do like he did with Jubi by ignoring the contact made with himself or his chakra and teleport out of the way
Furthermore Minato doesn't need to go an mark Susanoo. He possess mobile markings through his FTG kunais. All he has to do is throw it near Sasuke's Susanoo and he would be capable to perform the Goshun Mawashi just tine. He would mark Susanoo only if he feels the need and yes Susanoo is markable since it has been shown to be solid [
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Are you claiming the clones won't instantly go poof as all clones do? And no, lol, do not even attempt to compare an Amateratsu that wasn't aimed at him, but rather was kept in control by Sasuke's Enton, to a living Minato who's being aggressively attacked with Amateratsu. For one, if you look at the FRS enton attack, you can clearly see the Enton is all the way back, most likely because Sasuke is preventing it from touching Minato with Enton. Any regular Enton on him would obviously instantly spread around his body due to Enton, as it did here [
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Even if he has the capability of being able to leave the Amteratsu drop on the floor after using FTG on the Susano, how will that help him tag the Susano itself? He will not get past the Amateratsu flames surrounding the Susano. By the time he would have reached the Susano, he would have already been affected by this [
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]. It clearly has a decent range, and can be prolonged further if Sasuke wills. And, I am not sure if you already know this or not, but Sasuke can move while in v1 Susano at regular speed.. Meaning while Minato's hand is coming closer and getting burned, Sasuke can be moving backwards and prolonging the effect... Overlooked I guess, and doing such shouldn't be hard considering Sasuke's impressive speed, and impressive sharingan.
I never said Susano wasn't solid?... Lel. Anyways, I presume you don't understand how Goshun Mawashi works. You can clearly see Tobirama marked Minato, and Minato marked Tobirama, meaning it requires two FTG users. Saying he can chose to teleport the Susano merely because he has a FTG next to it is pathetic. You are handing him feats that have never been shown. He will have to physically mark it to use FTG regularly. To use Goshun, he will need the Susano to mark Minato as well, so they can swap places. All together, they aren't possible, at all.
Did you even read? I said that Minato will only use them to crush Sasuke with the food cart destroyer, the moment he summon them. When will Sasuke get the time to control them when something suddenly appears above him and crushes him?
Also, controlling them is useless as long as Minato is their partner. [
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So ultimately while trying to control a summon when it's alone is a smart move, trying to controlling it when it has a partner is a stupid move and waste of time and chakra
I already said v3 Susano sword destroys Bunta effortlessly, I didn't say he will use genjutsu to control him while he is falling atop of him, so "did you even read?" He will only use it after its landed, incase Sasuke doesn't decide to cut him in half. It will not crush him one tad bit lmao.
You are correct in the fact that they can disturb each others chakra, but the question is, how will Minato know Bunta is against him at any particular point? Sasuke can use Bunta to surprise Sasuke while Minato attempts an attack, catching him off guard.
So no, it is not stupid. Considering Minato doesn't have a dojutsu to realise there's a disturbance in Bunta's chakra flow.
Not an assumption when you know that after spending a night containing Kyubi's chakra in Kushina, spamming FTG to save everyone(Kushina, Naruto, village and so on), teleporting a 260m size Kyubi, warping a 66m tall Bijuudama, rasengan, use 2high level sealing techniques where he even shared some part of his chakra, he still summoned a 40m tall Gamabunta and later did summon Gerotora for the hakke fuin seal. Did you forget he did all that? Guess it's the case since you didn't even remember he did summon 2times during that fight.
And even if he weren't capable, summons are capable to summon themselves, just like they are capable to lend chakra [
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Summoning Gerotora is now being considered a chakra taxing feat? Please. FTG has shown to be all chakra control and not necessarily chakra consuming. Nothing suggests it is decently-highly chakra taxing. The only impressive feats he had shown chakra wise are the Kyuubi teleportation/TBB teleportation/Bunta summon. The rest is not chakra taxing. Furthermore, I didn't say he had low chakra reserves, I said nothing suggests he can summon two giant toads without being exhausted, and what you just claimed isn't proving he can. Moreover, even he was able to summon two giant toads, he would still have to be capable of prolonging the fight further, while Sasuke simply amateratsu's both toads and they go bye bye. Summons cannot summon themselves lmao. The only ones who have shown the reverse summon are Shima/Fukasaku/ and Gamakichi. And considering Gamkichi wasn't born back then/was an infant, he isn't a viable usage for Minato. Lending chakra=/=summoning.
Not really. Read above. Minato getting amaterasu? Lol that thing will never hit him. Too fast for that and even if it happened like i've explained above, it's useless because Minato is capable to differenciate what to teleport when something is in contact with him or his chakra, so he will just leave it behind.
Why do they need to work together? Minato has shown the capacity to summon everything to his markings [
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He doesn't need to
He isn't avoiding instant. A marking on Susanoo or near it would mean the toad would directly appear on him in an instant. There is no escape possible in this scenario unless you're Jubito whose reflexive feats are above instant
I meant to say Bunta, my bad, I know Minato instantly FTG's. But the other point isn't true considering Juubito cannot be teleported [
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Spacetime is usually interpreted with space as existing in
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that is of a different sort from the spatial dimensions. From a
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This proves it requires dimensional travel, and Juubito said he couldn't travel in-between dimensions, thus didn't. Considering Minato's analytical skills, he probably had already realised that.
Once again, when was it implied Gamabunta or any other toad has been marked by Minato? This is fallacious and has never even been remotely spoken of in the manga. For your next point, he didn't teleport Juubito into the floor, so I don't see how you came to that conclusion. The scan right after that only proves he can hold Kunai's in his hand. Did you believe I would ignore your scans? I can't tell if you are thinking I am naive or you yourself are delusional, in regards to those scans you just posted (which didn't prove any points in about FTG teleporting). Lmao, "he doesn't need to" You just showed me how delusional you are if you think he can teleport things that aren't marked to his kunai's. That would mean he would do some darth vader shit in the match, and smash Sasuke everywhere across the floor to his FTG Kunai's without having marked him. Hell, by your logic he can summon lava from a volcano to an FTG Kunai while being miles away since he doesn't have to mark what he wants to teleport to this FTG Kunai. Flawed logic.
Sasuke can use shunshin when he sees the hand seals for the summoning jutsu being prepped. Sasuke uses v3 to tank and smash Bunta. Are you content now? Although Bunta cannot be teleported to FTG without having been marked. Only because Kishi didn't show the food cart destroyer's hand seals doesn't mean he did it with FTG. Kishi doesn't have to spoon feed you all the information to realise what happened. He clearly said summoning technique if you look back [
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]. Considering the optimal fight for Sasuke against Minato would be in a circular Amateratsu ring, Mianto would lose. The amateratsu would be somewhat like this [
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] and end up spamming chidori nagashi, which has impress range as seen here [
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]. I have already shown you Sasuke's kusanagi infused with ration has great reach [
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]. Saying Minato will be capable of dodging with kunai's the entire time is fallacious since they will eventually be useless with small scale amateratsu burning through each and every one of them. If Minato takes on a similar tactic he did against Bee and Ay, he loses mid diff. If he keeps the kunai's, he has a higher chance, but still ends up losing. Sasuke's sharingan will allow him to analyse the situation. How will this help? Sasuke will easily find out Minato is teleporting to the kunai's. This will allow Sasuke to burn down any placed kunai's with a small scale amateratsu to eat through the FTG seal/kunai and allow him to focus on the single Kunai Minato is using. This means that Sasuke using amatertasu will force Minato to do an extremely close range kunai throw, like this [
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] (bottom panel) so he can teleport away. Considering all the other FTG marks have vanished due to amateratsu, Minato would do as I just have shown. This easily allows Sasuke to use a jutsu like chidori spear/chidori senbon to completely immobilise Minato since ration piercing the body has shown to numb. People seem to believe Sasuke will watch the FTG kunai's on the floor and not touch them when all he needs to do is light it on fire with amateratsu to melt through it.
Lastly, I would like to point out Minato is extremely vulnerable to sharingan genjutsu. Tsukoyomi and shackling stakes genjutsu all can easily end Minato, or buy enough time for Sasuke to kill Minato. Minato literally has no feats of genjutsu knowledge/countering, and thus shouldn't be overlooked as someone who is very vulnerable to uchiha genjutsu.
Shiki fujin's hand is immaterial. It didn't asked for Orochimaru's body's permission to take his soul. It went directly through it. Susanoo or not, it won't change a thing. And no, the hakke fuin does seal. For further explanations, this thread:
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Btw don't pay attention to the title. I meant overlooked. Dunno why i said underlooked at that time
Okay, but that still doesn't justify a win if he can kill himself along with his opponent. To your second point, I didn't realise, but stand corrected. Although I don't see Sasuke being sealed with Hakke Fuin since not only will Minato have to come close, but also summon the ceremonial thing which can easily be destroyed with a Chidori sharp spear.