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Lmao ,Since when does this thread turned in Minato vs Sasuke's PS, Where does in my post I said that Kyuubi laughs at Sasuke's PS in the first place.?
a Full powered Kyuubi which laughs at Sasuke's Susanoo..?
Is what you said and i know that PS is restricted i just felt like talking about it since apparently Kuruma laughs at Susano'o.

Sasuke's Susanoo that covered Naruto's Kyuubi is super inferior to Madara's PS and same goes Full Kyuubi which is alot bigger than Naruto's half assed Kyuubi ,Stop using ur fan fic's here.
So are you implying that Sauske's limit is 50% kurumah size? Sauske had to make his PS smaller to fit the Nine tails avatar why make it so big that it won't stay on the fox? I see no fanficts here so don't label my posts as one.


No PS is not that bigger than V4
Use Jinton in order to gauge its size.
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Since you said not 'that bigger' means that you agree that PS is bigger than V4.Correct?


Madara's PS is bigger than 100% Kyuubi but not as much as u think.
I apologias i exaggerated the PS and Kyuubi scale but the fact is the Fox isn't gonna laugh at Sasuke's Susano'o especially when he wields enton.
 

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Sasuke never needed Final Susano'o to beat Minato since he's become proficient with the Eternal. Ribcage Susano'o is enough he shields it with Enton, there's nothing Minato can do to harm him. Sasuke can mold Kagutsuchi in his hand to form a sword which he can spread Enton on all of Minato Kunai's. Genjutsu or Amaterasu would end it for Sasuke.
 

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So are you implying that Sauske's limit is 50% kurumah size? Sauske had to make his PS smaller to fit the Nine tails avatar why make it so big that it won't stay on the fox? I see no fanficts here so don't label my posts as one.
I thought we should use the feats that we have seen in manga.
Sasuke has never shown something bigger than that Susanoo & saying that Sasuke can use something bigger than that is nothing more than a fanfic at this point of manga, Also even if it is bigger than Naruto's half assed Kyuubi we still have no proof to say that it is bigger than 100% Kyuubi.

Kyuubi laughs at Sasuke's Susanoo even if it is as big as 100% Kyuubi . TBB spam > PS ,even if has Enton coat


Use Jinton in order to gauge its size.
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Since you said not 'that bigger' means that you agree that PS is bigger than V4.Correct?

Can't see ur point here , U can't compare hights by using top and and side views ,also Jinton is disappearing ,this point is invalid.

Yes,I agree with the point of PS being bigger than V4 but not as 2X bigger

I apologias i exaggerated the PS and Kyuubi scale but the fact is the Fox isn't gonna laugh at Sasuke's Susano'o especially when he wields enton.
Even Madara's PS is inferior to TBB's ,Enton can't help Sasuke from TBB spam from 100% Kyuubi.

Interms of Distruction & Physical strength Kyuubi laughs at the Susanoo that Sasuke has shown.
 

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Sasuke wins this. He has the sharingan, which can decipher chakra. Meaning he will see all the tags that are present, and any thing Minato has tagged. This will give him a great advantage due to the fact that an Amateratsu ring around them, like this
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This will prevent Minato from using FTG as leniently as usual. Since any Kunai that is thrown linearly will be affected, and thus melt and lose its mark. Sasuke can fight Minato with his v1 Susano being covered by Enton for mobility, and defence. Any attempt to mark the v1 Susano would be useless considering it will burn the bunshin before it can touch the actual Susano and mark it. Minato attempting to FTG it will allow him to mark it, but also force him to be caught in the effects of Amateratsu. Moreover, people don't think too far into the process of teleporting the Susano's chakra manifestation to another place. Considering Kage Bunshins will return their chakra once they have been released back to the user, Susano shouldn't be any different. Furthermore, even if Sasuke were to lose he his smallest Susano, v1, he could always simply create a new one considering it doesn't take much chakra. Chidori Nagashi will nullify any attempts of multiple Kage Bunshins attacking simultaneously. Sharingan can take over any Toad Minato summons, and have it be used against Minato. Sasuke's kunai skills are more than enough to stop a FTG kunai coming his way, considering the kunai feats he has demonstrated in the manga, such as
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Or Sasuke can also use his Kusanagi and dramatically increase its range as he did here in the bottom panel [ ] as to increase its lethality within the Amateratsu ring.
 

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Minato wins. With the restrictions, Sasuke stays with a 7m tall Susanoo max.

Susanoo or Amaterasu are no threat for Minato since it can be port away. We've seen sand was capable to enter which means there is no physical contact between Susanoo and the user [ ] With the Goshun Mawashi then, it doesn't only port it away, but gives opportunity to Minato to finish him off at the exact same moment [ ]. Not even Jubito could react to it despite being the fastest, the greatest sensor, the most reactive in the manga, so let alone Sasuke

And even if Minato didn't use this move. He has other methods to win this fight since Sasuke can't use the legged or PS. While Minato doesn't possess a fire power capable to destroy Susanoo by himself, something always overlooked is that he does possess boss summons who have shown great DC(capable to change landscape in part1 [ ] [ ] [ ] ) to the point of counter-acting with tailed beast like Shukaku and Kyubi in the category(cuting Shukaku's arm [ ] or pin down the Kyubi [ ]), 100% Kyubi who was more than 200meters. So all Minato has to do really is to put/leave a marking(kunai) on/near Susanoo(whether himself or a clone) and summon gamabunta on it for the food cart destroyer [ ].

The impact of the attack would crush Sasuke, or at the very least give an opportunity for Minato to take advantage of this an finish him off. There is no other possible outcomes anyway since Sasuke has no way to hit Minato. The time Minato realises his normal moves don't work, he would have to use the summoning jutsu as a support

At the absolute worse, Minato could still either seal him and his Susanoo with the Hakke no fuin or draw with the Shiki Fujin, but i don't see him losing this match-up when he has so many options to win
 

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Minato wins. With the restrictions, Sasuke stays with a 7m tall Susanoo max.

Susanoo or Amaterasu are no threat for Minato since it can be port away. We've seen sand was capable to enter which means there is no physical contact between Susanoo and the user [ ] With the Goshun Mawashi then, it doesn't only port it away, but gives opportunity to Minato to finish him off at the exact same moment [ ]. Not even Jubito could react to it despite being the fastest, the greatest sensor, the most reactive in the manga, so let alone Sasuke.

Sasuke's Enton will prevent Minato from touching the v1 Susano being used. Any attempts of touching it will make him Minato burn endlessly. Goshun Mawashi doesn't even work in this scenario lol.. Minato has to have someone mark him as well, and for obvious reasons, Susano isn't marking Minato. I don't need to explain the rest considering your argument isn't even possible.

And even if Minato didn't use this move. He has other methods to win this fight since Sasuke can't use the legged or PS. While Minato doesn't possess a fire power capable to destroy Susanoo by himself, something always overlooked is that he does possess boss summons who have shown great DC(capable to change landscape in part1 [ ] [ ] [ ] ) to the point of counter-acting with tailed beast like Shukaku and Kyubi in the category(cuting Shukaku's arm [ ] or pin down the Kyubi [ ]), 100% Kyubi who was more than 200meters. So all Minato has to do really is to put/leave a marking(kunai) on/near Susanoo(whether himself or a clone) and summon gamabunta on it for the food cart destroyer [ ].

Boss summons get controlled by Sasuke and used against him. Minato has not shown the capacity to use more than one summon without getting exhausted, so saying he can is an assumption. All the fire power Bunta has will be usable against Minato. If not, Minato simply gets an amateratsu to the face which will indubitably kill him. Since when does food cart destroyer work with FTG? It doesn't, considering nothing in the manga suggests Bunta was ever tagged by Minato in the first place. Moreover, Sasuke can either activate v3 Susano and cut it in half, or use chider spear with his sword, and cut it in half like here [ ]. You can clearly see the range is tremendous with his kusanagi sword ration extension. I don't have to elaborate why Susno sword effortlessly cuts Bunta in half. All this is clearly to be expected, considering Minato will have to make the summoning hand seals, which Sasuke knows of.

The impact of the attack would crush Sasuke, or at the very least give an opportunity for Minato to take advantage of this an finish him off. There is no other possible outcomes anyway since Sasuke has no way to hit Minato. The time Minato realises his normal moves don't work, he would have to use the summoning jutsu as a support

At the absolute worse, Minato could still either seal him and his Susanoo with the Hakke no fuin or draw with the Shiki Fujin, but i don't see him losing this match-up when he has so many options to win
No it will not. It will be noticeable (hand seals). It will be avoidable (Sasuke shunshin feats). It will be stoppable (Susano v3). It will be destroyable (Susano sword/Kusanagi ration extension). This isn't giving Minato anything, apart from losing chakra, and having a summon be turned against him incase it isn't killed.

Minato is never bypassing the v1 Susano in the first place, to be capable of using his Shiki Fujin. Moreover, Shikifujin will not equal a win, considering they both die at the same time, meaning it's a draw, meaning it is unviable as an argument. The hake no fuin does not seal, it simply allowed Naruto access his Kyuubi's chakra to a greater extent, hence why there was a key.
 
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Sasuke's Enton will prevent Minato from touching the v1 Susano being used. Any attempts of touching it will make him Minato burn endlessly. Goshun Mawashi doesn't even work in this scenario lol.. Minato has to have someone mark him as well, and for obvious reasons, Susano isn't marking Minato. I don't need to explain the rest considering your argument isn't even possible.
It prevents nothing if Minato sends a clone. Also, enton already touched Minato, nothing happened [ ]. Minato teleported out the way without problems. The reason behind this is simple. Enton is just an external chakra different from that of Minato and it has already been shown that Minato is the one to decide what to teleport when something is in contact with himself or his chakra when he teleported Sasuke and Naruto to a safe location ignoring Jubito who was in contact with them [ ] Since Amaterasu/enton is a different chakra/entity, he just have to do like he did with Jubi by ignoring the contact made with himself or his chakra and teleport out of the way

Furthermore Minato doesn't need to go an mark Susanoo. He possess mobile markings through his FTG kunais. All he has to do is throw it near Sasuke's Susanoo and he would be capable to perform the Goshun Mawashi just tine. He would mark Susanoo only if he feels the need and yes Susanoo is markable since it has been shown to be solid [ ]

boss summons get controlled by Sasuke nd used against him.
Did you even read? I said that Minato will only use them to crush Sasuke with the food cart destroyer, the moment he summon them. When will Sasuke get the time to control them when something suddenly appears above him and crushes him?

Also, controlling them is useless as long as Minato is their partner. [ ] They can share chakra to each other,[ ], something that will automatically break the genjutsu.

So ultimately while trying to control a summon when it's alone is a smart move, trying to controlling it when it has a partner is a stupid move and waste of time and chakra

Minato has not shown the capacity to use more than one summon without getting exhausted, so saying he can is an assumption.
Not an assumption when you know that after spending a night containing Kyubi's chakra in Kushina, spamming FTG to save everyone(Kushina, Naruto, village and so on), teleporting a 260m size Kyubi, warping a 66m tall Bijuudama, rasengan, use 2high level sealing techniques where he even shared some part of his chakra, he still summoned a 40m tall Gamabunta and later did summon Gerotora for the hakke fuin seal. Did you forget he did all that? Guess it's the case since you didn't even remember he did summon 2times during that fight.

And even if he weren't capable, summons are capable to summon themselves, just like they are capable to lend chakra [ ]

All the fire power Bunta has will be usable against Minato. If not, Minato simply gets an amateratsu to the face which will indubitably kill him.
Not really. Read above. Minato getting amaterasu? Lol that thing will never hit him. Too fast for that and even if it happened like i've explained above, it's useless because Minato is capable to differenciate what to teleport when something is in contact with him or his chakra, so he will just leave it behind.

Since when does food cart destroyer work with FTG?
Why do they need to work together? Minato has shown the capacity to summon everything to his markings [ ] [ ], so all he will have to do is summon Gamabunta or whatever toad he decided to call above Sasuke's Susanoo if he has a marking near the area

It doesn't, considering nothing in the manga suggests Bunta was ever tagged by Minato in the first place.
He doesn't need to

No it will not. It will be noticeable (hand seals). It will be avoidable (Sasuke shunshin feats). It will be stoppable (Susano v3). It will be destroyable (Susano sword/Kusanagi ration extension). This isn't giving Minato anything, apart from losing chakra, and having a summon be turned against him incase it isn't killed.
He isn't avoiding instant. A marking on Susanoo or near it would mean the toad would directly appear on him in an instant. There is no escape possible in this scenario unless you're Jubito whose reflexive feats are above instant

Minato is never bypassing the v1 Susano in the first place, to be capable of using his Shiki Fujin. Moreover, Shikifujin will not equal a win, considering they both die at the same time, meaning it's a draw, meaning it is unviable as an argument. The hake no fuin does not seal, it simply allowed Naruto access his Kyuubi's chakra to a greater extent, hence why there was a key.
Shiki fujin's hand is immaterial. It didn't asked for Orochimaru's body's permission to take his soul. It went directly through it. Susanoo or not, it won't change a thing. And no, the hakke fuin does seal. For further explanations, this thread:

Btw don't pay attention to the title. I meant overlooked. Dunno why i said underlooked at that time :(
 
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EMS Sasuke. He uses Enton to cover the ground. Minato won't be able to do anything.
 

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I believe the Yellow Flash takes this
 

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It prevents nothing if Minato sends a clone. Also, enton already touched Minato, nothing happened [ ]. Minato teleported out the way without problems. The reason behind this is simple. Enton is just an external chakra different from that of Minato and it has already been shown that Minato is the one to decide what to teleport when something is in contact with himself or his chakra when he teleported Sasuke and Naruto to a safe location ignoring Jubito who was in contact with them [ ] Since Amaterasu/enton is a different chakra/entity, he just have to do like he did with Jubi by ignoring the contact made with himself or his chakra and teleport out of the way

Lool how can you use that as an argument when minato used him and tobirama s/t at the same time to do such a feat not to mention him and obito switch places in the same panel basically showing how fast it was what jutsu can take effect in that time also you see minato by obito's juubi orbs showing that they traded places exactly the clone would poof before it could teleport anything at all t as the clones are not durable at all.

Furthermore Minato doesn't need to go an mark Susanoo. He possess mobile markings through his FTG kunais. All he has to do is throw it near Sasuke's Susanoo and he would be capable to perform the Goshun Mawashi just tine. He would mark Susanoo only if he feels the need and yes Susanoo is markable since it has been shown to be solid [ ]

Useless sasuke wont give minato a chance to warp him he leaves himself open trying to scatter kunai around Enton magatamas roast them or a simply amaterasu to the face area also if a minato clone is hit with amaterasu or himself minato has shown to teleport his body only in these cases he doesnt warp the object off himself if he can this happens when minato is hit with amaterasu
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Also your juubito assumption isnt quite right because minato said he can teleport anything touching his chakra obito wasit touching his chakra therefor he would not be able to warp him with naruto & sasuke also We seen ribcage susanoo cannot be warped off
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Did you even read? I said that Minato will only use them to crush Sasuke with the food cart destroyer, the moment he summon them. When will Sasuke get the time to control them when something suddenly appears above him and crushes him?Also, controlling them is useless as long as Minato is their partner. [ ] They can share chakra to each other,[ ], something that will automatically break the genjutsu.

So ultimately while trying to control a summon when it's alone is a smart move, trying to controlling it when it has a partner is a stupid move and waste of time and chakra

Useless if sasuke see's minato draws blood he is one shotted as i said before with a susanoo arrow or amaterasu as it takes to long to summon a frog before he can be tooken out with those techs not to mention susanoo put up speed was able to block Kirin witch is bigger faster and more destructive then a falling toad also why would minato sacfrafice his toad for a trick that isnt even going to work

Your genjutsu thing is flawed as well sharingan genjutus is nigh Instant even bee in a mid air stride who has a inner partner who has release genjutsu before was down for about 3 seconds saying a simple genjutsu he can use a 3 tomoe would drain him please also why waste a time of a genjutsu when amaterasu 1 shots

Not an assumption when you know that after spending a night containing Kyubi's chakra in Kushina, spamming FTG to save everyone(Kushina, Naruto, village and so on), teleporting a 260m size Kyubi, warping a 66m tall Bijuudama, rasengan, use 2high level sealing techniques where he even shared some part of his chakra, he still summoned a 40m tall Gamabunta and later did summon Gerotora for the hakke fuin seal. Did you forget he did all that? Guess it's the case since you didn't even remember he did summon 2times during that fight.

And even if he weren't capable, summons are capable to summon themselves, just like they are capable to lend chakra [ ]

Not really. Read above. Minato getting amaterasu? Lol that thing will never hit him. Too fast for that and even if it happened like i've explained above, it's useless because Minato is capable to differenciate what to teleport when something is in contact with him or his chakra, so he will just leave it behind.
Dont overrated his chakra levels i can say the same about the chakra sharing for Aoda but this is ems sasuke hes been fighting a while without no sigh of exhausting even before the kurama cloak summons play no role in this match when your fighting an amaterasu user so this hole post can be excused

Why do they need to work together? Minato has shown the capacity to summon everything to his markings [ ] [ ], so all he will have to do is summon Gamabunta or whatever toad he decided to call above Sasuke's Susanoo if he has a marking near the area

He doesn't need to

He isn't avoiding instant. A marking on Susanoo or near it would mean the toad would directly appear on him in an instant. There is no escape possible in this scenario unless you're Jubito whose reflexive feats are above instant

Shiki fujin's hand is immaterial. It didn't asked for Orochimaru's body's permission to take his soul. It went directly through it. Susanoo or not, it won't change a thing. And no, the hakke fuin does seal. For further explanations, this thread:

Btw don't pay attention to the title. I meant overlooked. Dunno why i said underlooked at that time :(

Sasuke simply wont be caught by that jutsu he can summon his hawk to advoid the reaper also if minato has both his hands claped trying to rip sasuke soul out uses amaterasu to the face as seen you can fight for you soul if someone is trying to pull it out
 

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Minato wins.

Sasuke strongest jutsus can do nothing to Minato.
we saw Minato being hit with Enton + FRS directly and it did not effect him in anyway


he cat teleport Sasuke's Susanoo away and make him defenseless



The Kirin can be redirected at Sasuke via S/T barrier.

Also, Sasuke has no way to hit Minato, and if he can't hit him, he can't win.
 

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It prevents nothing if Minato sends a clone. Also, enton already touched Minato, nothing happened [ ]. Minato teleported out the way without problems. The reason behind this is simple. Enton is just an external chakra different from that of Minato and it has already been shown that Minato is the one to decide what to teleport when something is in contact with himself or his chakra when he teleported Sasuke and Naruto to a safe location ignoring Jubito who was in contact with them [ ] Since Amaterasu/enton is a different chakra/entity, he just have to do like he did with Jubi by ignoring the contact made with himself or his chakra and teleport out of the way

Furthermore Minato doesn't need to go an mark Susanoo. He possess mobile markings through his FTG kunais. All he has to do is throw it near Sasuke's Susanoo and he would be capable to perform the Goshun Mawashi just tine. He would mark Susanoo only if he feels the need and yes Susanoo is markable since it has been shown to be solid [ ]

Are you claiming the clones won't instantly go poof as all clones do? And no, lol, do not even attempt to compare an Amateratsu that wasn't aimed at him, but rather was kept in control by Sasuke's Enton, to a living Minato who's being aggressively attacked with Amateratsu. For one, if you look at the FRS enton attack, you can clearly see the Enton is all the way back, most likely because Sasuke is preventing it from touching Minato with Enton. Any regular Enton on him would obviously instantly spread around his body due to Enton, as it did here [ ]. Even with Minato teleporting a few seconds later, he still would've been severely damaged.

Even if he has the capability of being able to leave the Amteratsu drop on the floor after using FTG on the Susano, how will that help him tag the Susano itself? He will not get past the Amateratsu flames surrounding the Susano. By the time he would have reached the Susano, he would have already been affected by this [ ]. It clearly has a decent range, and can be prolonged further if Sasuke wills. And, I am not sure if you already know this or not, but Sasuke can move while in v1 Susano at regular speed.. Meaning while Minato's hand is coming closer and getting burned, Sasuke can be moving backwards and prolonging the effect... Overlooked I guess, and doing such shouldn't be hard considering Sasuke's impressive speed, and impressive sharingan.

I never said Susano wasn't solid?... Lel. Anyways, I presume you don't understand how Goshun Mawashi works. You can clearly see Tobirama marked Minato, and Minato marked Tobirama, meaning it requires two FTG users. Saying he can chose to teleport the Susano merely because he has a FTG next to it is pathetic. You are handing him feats that have never been shown. He will have to physically mark it to use FTG regularly. To use Goshun, he will need the Susano to mark Minato as well, so they can swap places. All together, they aren't possible, at all.

Did you even read? I said that Minato will only use them to crush Sasuke with the food cart destroyer, the moment he summon them. When will Sasuke get the time to control them when something suddenly appears above him and crushes him?

Also, controlling them is useless as long as Minato is their partner. [ ] They can share chakra to each other,[ ], something that will automatically break the genjutsu.

So ultimately while trying to control a summon when it's alone is a smart move, trying to controlling it when it has a partner is a stupid move and waste of time and chakra

I already said v3 Susano sword destroys Bunta effortlessly, I didn't say he will use genjutsu to control him while he is falling atop of him, so "did you even read?" He will only use it after its landed, incase Sasuke doesn't decide to cut him in half. It will not crush him one tad bit lmao.

You are correct in the fact that they can disturb each others chakra, but the question is, how will Minato know Bunta is against him at any particular point? Sasuke can use Bunta to surprise Sasuke while Minato attempts an attack, catching him off guard.

So no, it is not stupid. Considering Minato doesn't have a dojutsu to realise there's a disturbance in Bunta's chakra flow.

Not an assumption when you know that after spending a night containing Kyubi's chakra in Kushina, spamming FTG to save everyone(Kushina, Naruto, village and so on), teleporting a 260m size Kyubi, warping a 66m tall Bijuudama, rasengan, use 2high level sealing techniques where he even shared some part of his chakra, he still summoned a 40m tall Gamabunta and later did summon Gerotora for the hakke fuin seal. Did you forget he did all that? Guess it's the case since you didn't even remember he did summon 2times during that fight.

And even if he weren't capable, summons are capable to summon themselves, just like they are capable to lend chakra [ ]

Summoning Gerotora is now being considered a chakra taxing feat? Please. FTG has shown to be all chakra control and not necessarily chakra consuming. Nothing suggests it is decently-highly chakra taxing. The only impressive feats he had shown chakra wise are the Kyuubi teleportation/TBB teleportation/Bunta summon. The rest is not chakra taxing. Furthermore, I didn't say he had low chakra reserves, I said nothing suggests he can summon two giant toads without being exhausted, and what you just claimed isn't proving he can. Moreover, even he was able to summon two giant toads, he would still have to be capable of prolonging the fight further, while Sasuke simply amateratsu's both toads and they go bye bye. Summons cannot summon themselves lmao. The only ones who have shown the reverse summon are Shima/Fukasaku/ and Gamakichi. And considering Gamkichi wasn't born back then/was an infant, he isn't a viable usage for Minato. Lending chakra=/=summoning.

Not really. Read above. Minato getting amaterasu? Lol that thing will never hit him. Too fast for that and even if it happened like i've explained above, it's useless because Minato is capable to differenciate what to teleport when something is in contact with him or his chakra, so he will just leave it behind.

Why do they need to work together? Minato has shown the capacity to summon everything to his markings [ ] [ ], so all he will have to do is summon Gamabunta or whatever toad he decided to call above Sasuke's Susanoo if he has a marking near the area

He doesn't need to

He isn't avoiding instant. A marking on Susanoo or near it would mean the toad would directly appear on him in an instant. There is no escape possible in this scenario unless you're Jubito whose reflexive feats are above instant

I meant to say Bunta, my bad, I know Minato instantly FTG's. But the other point isn't true considering Juubito cannot be teleported [ ]. He himself said he cannot travel through dimensions, and considering FTG is teleportation, and teleportation requires dimensional travel considering Bee was speaking of S/T and implied they all required dimensions if you analyse it well [ ] and the definition of space time, which is
Spacetime is usually interpreted with space as existing in and time playing the role of a that is of a different sort from the spatial dimensions. From a perspective, the has three of space and one of time.
This proves it requires dimensional travel, and Juubito said he couldn't travel in-between dimensions, thus didn't. Considering Minato's analytical skills, he probably had already realised that.

Once again, when was it implied Gamabunta or any other toad has been marked by Minato? This is fallacious and has never even been remotely spoken of in the manga. For your next point, he didn't teleport Juubito into the floor, so I don't see how you came to that conclusion. The scan right after that only proves he can hold Kunai's in his hand. Did you believe I would ignore your scans? I can't tell if you are thinking I am naive or you yourself are delusional, in regards to those scans you just posted (which didn't prove any points in about FTG teleporting). Lmao, "he doesn't need to" You just showed me how delusional you are if you think he can teleport things that aren't marked to his kunai's. That would mean he would do some darth vader shit in the match, and smash Sasuke everywhere across the floor to his FTG Kunai's without having marked him. Hell, by your logic he can summon lava from a volcano to an FTG Kunai while being miles away since he doesn't have to mark what he wants to teleport to this FTG Kunai. Flawed logic.

Sasuke can use shunshin when he sees the hand seals for the summoning jutsu being prepped. Sasuke uses v3 to tank and smash Bunta. Are you content now? Although Bunta cannot be teleported to FTG without having been marked. Only because Kishi didn't show the food cart destroyer's hand seals doesn't mean he did it with FTG. Kishi doesn't have to spoon feed you all the information to realise what happened. He clearly said summoning technique if you look back [ ]. Considering the optimal fight for Sasuke against Minato would be in a circular Amateratsu ring, Mianto would lose. The amateratsu would be somewhat like this [ ] and end up spamming chidori nagashi, which has impress range as seen here [ ]. I have already shown you Sasuke's kusanagi infused with ration has great reach [ ]. Saying Minato will be capable of dodging with kunai's the entire time is fallacious since they will eventually be useless with small scale amateratsu burning through each and every one of them. If Minato takes on a similar tactic he did against Bee and Ay, he loses mid diff. If he keeps the kunai's, he has a higher chance, but still ends up losing. Sasuke's sharingan will allow him to analyse the situation. How will this help? Sasuke will easily find out Minato is teleporting to the kunai's. This will allow Sasuke to burn down any placed kunai's with a small scale amateratsu to eat through the FTG seal/kunai and allow him to focus on the single Kunai Minato is using. This means that Sasuke using amatertasu will force Minato to do an extremely close range kunai throw, like this [ ] (bottom panel) so he can teleport away. Considering all the other FTG marks have vanished due to amateratsu, Minato would do as I just have shown. This easily allows Sasuke to use a jutsu like chidori spear/chidori senbon to completely immobilise Minato since ration piercing the body has shown to numb. People seem to believe Sasuke will watch the FTG kunai's on the floor and not touch them when all he needs to do is light it on fire with amateratsu to melt through it.

Lastly, I would like to point out Minato is extremely vulnerable to sharingan genjutsu. Tsukoyomi and shackling stakes genjutsu all can easily end Minato, or buy enough time for Sasuke to kill Minato. Minato literally has no feats of genjutsu knowledge/countering, and thus shouldn't be overlooked as someone who is very vulnerable to uchiha genjutsu.



Shiki fujin's hand is immaterial. It didn't asked for Orochimaru's body's permission to take his soul. It went directly through it. Susanoo or not, it won't change a thing. And no, the hakke fuin does seal. For further explanations, this thread:

Btw don't pay attention to the title. I meant overlooked. Dunno why i said underlooked at that time :(
Okay, but that still doesn't justify a win if he can kill himself along with his opponent. To your second point, I didn't realise, but stand corrected. Although I don't see Sasuke being sealed with Hakke Fuin since not only will Minato have to come close, but also summon the ceremonial thing which can easily be destroyed with a Chidori sharp spear.
 
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dang, I don't know how people debate against walls of text.
 

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dang, I don't know how people debate against walls of text.

It's a lazy intimidation tool. Tbh.
The user is too lazy to hit enter and the reader is forced to read through bad grammar, run on sentences, etc.
 

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It's a lazy intimidation tool. Tbh.
The user is too lazy to hit enter and the reader is forced to read through bad grammar, run on sentences, etc.
I don't recall any grammatical mistakes in my 'wall of text' apart from spelling mistakes, which every person does. No one is perfect, claiming a few grammatical mistakes were caused solely because of long paragraphs is hypocritical. Considering most people end up having incorrect grammar in single sentence posts on this site, as you probably have to.
 

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Sasuke wins mid diff. Minato's only attacks which are Rasengans, Kunai Slashes, and Punches and Kicks won't require anything beyond a ribcage. Minato's only other option is Food Cart Destroyer, and that is withstood by a V4 Susano'o, and then Gamabunta is either burned down or even better controlled. FTG is of no issue to Sasuke. He can easily snipe all the FTG markers as he can see them all. Amaterasu spam will cover the field with flames and corner Minato, and Sasuke's genjutsu will also give him a significant advantage. In the end Minato will have one of two choices, both of which can only force a draw. Run away with FTG or use Shiki Fujin. Considering Sasuke now has intel of Shiki Fujin, that itself is a long shot.
 

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I don't recall any grammatical mistakes in my 'wall of text' apart from spelling mistakes, which every person does. No one is perfect, claiming a few grammatical mistakes were caused solely because of long paragraphs is hypocritical. Considering most people end up having incorrect grammar in single sentence posts on this site, as you probably have to.
I never claimed I was perfect. It's just that the simple act of hitting "enter" every 5 to 6 sentences or when discussing a different point in conjunction to the topic makes your "wall of text" much easier to read.
 

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Sasuke takes this....no need to explain why....

Minato is overrated and is out of his league this time.
 
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