ems sasuke vs gokage

[sixpaths15]

Dox, do you ever get off Sasuke's ****? Seriously, whoever he's put up against in the vs threads, you just come up with a whack ass argument to support him.

its not that hes on sasuke's ****. its just that me and dox understand how strong ems sasuke is. most of the base underrates sasuke so much and especially his ems version. most of the base is lost in the thought that people like the gokage wreck ems sasuke's shit. he phucks them up so bad its not even funny

 

[ARGUS]

No PS = sasuke getting wrecked

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sasuke chances are high if he can use Standing Susanoo but if not he loses badly.

If Edo Madara w/ Mokuton, Meteors, V3 Susanoo and Mokuton Clones can't solo the Gokage without Perfect Susanoo then I can safely tell you right now that Sasuke isn't beating them with V4 Susanoo.

If you think Ps was absolutely needed to defeat the Gokage your a fool. Madara could have killed the Gokage so many times. Hell when they got knocked out by the pollen Susanoo could of went down there and crushed all of them instead Madara just sat back watching.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

If Edo Madara w/ Mokuton, Meteors, V3 Susanoo and Mokuton Clones can't solo the Gokage without Perfect Susanoo then I can safely tell you right now that Sasuke isn't beating them with V4 Susanoo.

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He didn't even have the chance to direct his PS torwards them and he had already broken out of the sealing attempt with v4. Not to mention, he said he was toying.

 

[Ambivalence]

As usual, everything hinges on Onoki. If he gets taken out fast, Sasuke wins. If not, Sasuke gets atomized, which is more likely to happen since Onoki doesn't need a Super Jinton to take out Sasuke's Susano'o, and once he hops onto Ay and lightens him he won't get hit, something that's gonna happen with 50m starting range.

 

[KidGamer65]

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He didn't even have the chance to direct his PS torwards them and he had already broken out of the sealing attempt with v4. Not to mention, he said he was toying.

First of all, I just addressed this. Second of all why do you people love to bring this scan as if it proves anything. How does Madara beating a Gokage who had just exhausted all their power without PS change the fact that when they had power under their belt Madara had to use PS to defeat them.

Unless you are telling me he used PS for no reason. :lol Unless you are telling me that he didn't

Sasuke chances are high if he can use Standing Susanoo but if not he loses badly.

If you think Ps was absolutely needed to defeat the Gokage your a fool. Madara could have killed the Gokage so many times. Hell when they got knocked out by the pollen Susanoo could of went down there and crushed all of them instead Madara just sat back watching.

Onoki was out not even for a few seconds, so no. :lol That is the only time Madara could've actually killed them without the need to resort to PS.

KG you know dam well that madara could have just made 100 wood clones all use v3 susanoo and 50 of the susanoos could attack at close range with their fists and swords while the other 50 wood clones are dropping 10 meteors each and shooting juubi sized katon. you crack me up the way you try to make the gokage sound stronger than they are. it doesnt take a genius to know that edo madara could have soloed the gokage in less than a minute if he wanted to. madara was just toying with them.

Not even gonna waste any time arguing with someone dumb enough to believe the bold is possible.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

First of all, I just addressed this. Second of all why do you people love to bring this scan as if it proves anything. How does Madara beating a Gokage who had just exhausted all their power without PS change the fact that when they had power under their belt Madara had to use PS to defeat them.

Unless you are telling me he used PS for no reason. :lol Unless you are telling me that he didn't



Onoki was out not even for a few seconds, so no. :lol That is the only time Madara could've actually killed them without the need to resort to PS.






Not even gonna waste any time arguing with someone dumb enough to believe the bold is possible.

I'm not saying he used PS for no reason but PS did nothing against the gokage except bust some mountains nearby.
If you believe Madara needs PS against the gokage, then what would've happened if he decided to use V4 after he escaped the sealing attempt? They were already shitting themselves at the sight of V4 and Madara wasn't even done yet. The scan shows that Madara defeated them without PS. Yes they were exhausted, but who pushed them that far in the first place? Madara, of course.

On topic: ONoki is essential to this. Otherwise the kages get killed. A less powerful super jinton can finish Sasuke off.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm not saying he used PS for no reason but PS did nothing against the gokage except bust some mountains nearby.
If you believe Madara needs PS against the gokage, then what would've happened if he decided to use V4 after he escaped the sealing attempt? They were already shitting themselves at the sight of V4 and Madara wasn't even done yet. The scan shows that Madara defeated them without PS. Yes they were exhausted, but who pushed them that far in the first place? Madara, of course. Sorry if this sounds dumb didn't he pull out PS just to scare as a sign of respect after witnessing their full power.

V4 is close enough in PS to power that it is enough to defeat them. Anyway this argument is a waste of time and completely off the main point, that what they overcame against Madara is superior to anything Sasuke can throw at them.

But fine, I'll agree that it doesn't make sense to say he needed PS to beat them.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

V4 is close enough in PS to power that it is enough to defeat them. Anyway this argument is a waste of time and completely off the main point, that what they overcame against Madara is superior to anything Sasuke can throw at them.

But fine, I'll agree that it doesn't make sense to say he needed PS to beat them.

i agree with the bold. Could Gaara use lightened sand to do the same thing he did to Madara's Susanoo on Sasuke's or would he never get the chance?

 

[KidGamer65]

i agree with the bold. Could Gaara use lightened sand to do the same thing he did to Madara's Susanoo on Sasuke's or would he never get the chance?

Sasuke's has legs, so nah.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sasuke's has legs, so nah.

Wait Sasuke can use a standing Susanoo? Then he wins no question about it.

 

[sixpaths15]

First of all, I just addressed this. Second of all why do you people love to bring this scan as if it proves anything. How does Madara beating a Gokage who had just exhausted all their power without PS change the fact that when they had power under their belt Madara had to use PS to defeat them.

Unless you are telling me he used PS for no reason. :lol Unless you are telling me that he didn't



Onoki was out not even for a few seconds, so no. :lol That is the only time Madara could've actually killed them without the need to resort to PS.






Not even gonna waste any time arguing with someone dumb enough to believe the bold is possible.

he has infinite chakra so why dont you tell me how that isnt possible? madara could have soloed so easily. your dumb af if u think madara needed ps to beat the gokage.

 

[Mocoloco8]

I think sasuke would win and quite easily actually.

His V3 was bijuu sized, a V4 would be even bigger. Gaara's sand would almost be a non-factor here as him and the ichibi combining their powers can't even restrain a much smaller legged V2.5 susanoo from Madara (although Madara's is powered by senjutsu and rikudou chakra).
The striking feats of Sasuke's V3 allowed it to cut through a mountain-sized shinjuu root which should be way more durable than an actual mountain. Even if we say he was powered by Naruto's cloak, taking that away but replacing it with a V4 susanoo and enton weaponry would make up the difference.
Ei and oonoki backpack isn't doing anything considering Sasuke could tag juubito, and oonoki is really the only threat here, and he isn't really much of a threat considering the speed and durability of Sasuke's susanoo which should allow it to withstand jinton for a long time considering his susanoo could stall Juubito's more advanced version of jinton.

Don't see the gokage winning unless they trap him in the giant jinton cube, but Sasuke would most likely never let that happen considering he goes right for the kill unlike madara who likes to toy around because he's immortal and saddistic.

 

[Oblivionx]

sasuke loses this badly. Only thing that beat gokages against madara was rinnegan. Preta path was the actual pain in their ass as their strongest jutsu jinton was absorbed by it again and again. Susano can't do anything against gokages. Everything else is useless as well. sasuke already fought gokages one on one and susano was used every time he got his ass kicked. And susano becomes moot with jinton and Tsunade being there.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Wait Sasuke can use a standing Susanoo? Then he wins no question about it.

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[Ambivalence]

Unless you are telling me he used PS for no reason. :lol Unless you are telling me that he didn't

I don't get it, when did it seem he needed PS to beat them?

- He pushed them to the max without it
- Gokage, already warn out with no PS in play, resort to what it seemed like their best combo
- Madara was about to get beaten, but busted out of their sealing attempt with V4
- Stabilizes the chakra resulting in PS and swings once to show off its power (the slash did minimal damage and nothing to hinder the Kage's fighting capabilities)
- After that it disappears and Madara clearly states he won't use it again. Literally, remove the part he turns V4 to PS and it would've still resulted in Madara beating them, because PS did nothing to the Kages - it wasn't what saved Madara from the final combo, it didn't do anything meaningful to them to allow Madara to win.

V4 being close to PS in power doesn't mean he actually needed PS's firepower, only something strong enough to break out of the Kages' seal, which V3 wasn't, V4 was, but is still not PS. So no, he didn't need PS to beat them, nor did he ever say that - "time for me to show you my full power". This is also supported by the fact that Madara beforehand let himself get Jinton'd to show Hashirama's face and lower their morale, while PS was meant to prove the massive difference between them.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't get it, when did it seem he needed PS to beat them?

- He pushed them to the max without it
- Gokage, already warn out with no PS in play, resort to what it seemed like their best combo
- Madara was about to get beaten, but busted out of their sealing attempt with V4
- Stabilizes the chakra resulting in PS and swings once to show off its power (the slash did minimal damage and nothing to hinder the Kage's fighting capabilities)
- After that it disappears and Madara clearly states he won't use it again. Literally, remove the part he turns V4 to PS and it would've still resulted in Madara beating them, because PS did nothing to the Kages - it wasn't what saved Madara from the final combo, it didn't do anything meaningful to them to allow Madara to win.

V4 being close to PS in power doesn't mean he actually needed PS's firepower, only something strong enough to break out of the Kages' seal, which V4 is, but is still not PS. So no, he didn't need PS to beat them, nor did he ever say that - "time for me to show you my full power".

Lmao. I already agreed that he doesn't need PS to beat them.

 

[sixpaths15]

its a shame anyone even had to disprove the foul ass shit you said about him needing it to beat them

 

[sixpaths15]

Lmao. I already agreed that he doesn't need PS to beat them.

its a shame anyone even had to disprove the foul ass shit you said about him needing it to beat them

 

[KidGamer65]

its a shame anyone even had to disprove the foul ass shit you said about him needing it to beat them

It's a shame people as dumb as you are allowed to use the internet.