EMS Sasuke vs Gokage

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MS Sasuke failed miserably...

But EMS Sasuke stomps them
 

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Unless you add Naruto's Chakra cloak to boost Sasuke's Chakra reserves, to the point of using Perfect Susanoo, it doesn't exist within his individual arsenal. With that being said, Gaara and Ay or Ay and Onoki are what needed to beat him.

Gokage low difficulty.
 

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Please don't fill the thread with fan fiction any further.

If you're not going to back your claims up with feats refrain from posting altogether. Thanks.
 

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What the hell? He stomps. Lol
- Tracked down Juubito, who is far faster than any of them. They are landing hits on him.
- Summon Enton fields to take out Ei and Onoki first hand.
- Does the same for Mei and Tsunade
- Then pulls out PS to finish them.
 

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It's already been shown that PS is tiers above what the Gokage can accomplish together.

***Madara's PS is tiers above The Gokage. Still putting EMS Sasuke on equal footing as Rinnegan (indra and ashura chakra) Madara I see. lol Keep fighting the invisible fight.
 

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What the hell? He stomps. Lol
- Tracked down Juubito, who is far faster than any of them. They are landing hits on him.
- Summon Enton fields to take out Ei and Onoki first hand.
- Does the same for Mei and Tsunade
- Then pulls out PS to finish them.

Hidden Mist Clouds his vision.
Enton is not fast at all, Gaara Sand has the speed to counter it.

The PS is fan fiction without Naruto and Juugo chakra so I'm not addressing it.
 

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Gokage because Sasuke doesn't have PS at this point.
 

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If Sasuke takes the gokage seriously and goes all out right from the start
and brings out the PS, he takes this quite easily. If Sasuke starts off playing
around and testing his abilities, he'd be taken off guard and a surprise attack
from Ay, or a surprise jinton kills him.

Basically, as long as Sasuke doesn't fight the way Madara does, he's got this.
 

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I think EMS Sasuke is the strongest character that Gokage can beat.
 

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***Madara's PS is tiers above The Gokage. Still putting EMS Sasuke on equal footing as Rinnegan (indra and ashura chakra) Madara I see. lol Keep fighting the invisible fight.

Oh look, it's this clown again. I've told you multiple times that:

1. Never said madara and sasuke susanoo ard dead equal.

2. Stop saying this Indra/Ashura Rinnegan bullsbit as if it made Madaras Susanoo any better than it was alive.

I've already provided argumentation for the strength of Sasuke's Susanoo. If you have no counters (which you obviously don't given the worthless replies), don't reply to my post, simple as that.


And I see OP is being dumb....as usual. Why can't you people read the manga? It'd save us all a lot of time and effort.
 

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Oh look, it's this clown again. I've told you multiple times that:

1. Never said madara and sasuke susanoo ard dead equal.

2. Stop saying this Indra/Ashura Rinnegan bullsbit as if it made Madaras Susanoo any better than it was alive.

I've already provided argumentation for the strength of Sasuke's Susanoo. If you have no counters (which you obviously don't given the worthless replies), don't reply to my post, simple as that.


And I see OP is being dumb....as usual. Why can't you people read the manga? It'd save us all a lot of time and effort.

Stop throwing insults and provide the necessary feats to support your claims, otherwise, concede and refrain from spamming the thread. Thanks.
 

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Oh believe me, I'll post after work. Too busy atm. Don't expect anything to come of it though, since you like denying manga fact.
 

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Oh look, it's this clown again. I've told you multiple times that:

1. Never said madara and sasuke susanoo ard dead equal.

2. Stop saying this Indra/Ashura Rinnegan bullsbit as if it made Madaras Susanoo any better than it was alive.

I've already provided argumentation for the strength of Sasuke's Susanoo. If you have no counters (which you obviously don't given the worthless replies), don't reply to my post, simple as that.


And I see OP is being dumb....as usual. Why can't you people read the manga? It'd save us all a lot of time and effort.

1. What PS feats are you going on then?

2. So more chakra, Hashirama DNA and higher level of over all power doesn't make him better? Listen to yourself!

Show me Sasuke's PS scans with no help from outside sourse period please! lmmfao This clown gets funnier and funnier!
 

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Same situation Madara was in? Lmao. Sasuke kills Gaara and Onoki before Ay, Tsunade and Mei arrives. Then he proceeds to rape them as well.
 

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Oh believe me, I'll post after work. Too busy atm. Don't expect anything to come of it though, since you like denying manga fact.

His PS is featless without Kyuubi, Juugo, and Hagoromo power. That is a manga fact.

You once said he was never infused by Kyuubi chakra after Obito power dived him and the cloak was not shown, despite it starting to fade on the shinobi when Kurama was ripped from Naruto. That is a manga fact. But then you like to use the Sai example as evidence that the cloak was gone despite that being an earlier part of the war where the cloak was only Yin Kurama, where as the one he later gave the shinobi (along with Sasuke) was Yin+Yang Kurama chakra so it would last longer, as it was noted to be bigger and stronger than before, another manga fact. You're probably going to tell me to go get proof that a Yin+Yang Kurama cloak will last longer than only a Yin one now.
 

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Sasuke wins mostly not because of PS, But because he can spam Amaterasu lie there is no tomorrow and only two of the five Kages won't drop dead immediatly: Ay and Gaara (debatable with the Enton ≠ Amaterasu controversy)
MS Sasuke whit just Ribcage was giving Ay a hard time and Sasuke blitz Gaara.
He wins.
 

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1. What PS feats are you going on then?

No feats, only scaling.

1. PS=Kurama Avatar in speed, strength and durability AFTER Rikudo Power Up. Remove said power up, and you get the same conclusion. PS has to be Mountain Level at least to fight against the Kurama Avatar, as the manga has shown.

2. Nothing shows this ridiculous gap between Madara and Sasuke's previous Susanoo versions (At the same level) so I have no reason to believe he can't cut a Mountain, whether or not his slash is as powerful as Madara's, which it isn't.

2. So more chakra, Hashirama DNA and higher level of over all power doesn't make him better? Listen to yourself!

If you are going to reply to me, please read the manga first, it saves me a lot of time. Go look at EMS Madara and Edo Madara's PS, when you can show me the difference in strength then we can talk, until then, you are merely making stuff up. Fanfiction is what we call it.

Show me Sasuke's PS scans with no help from outside sourse period please! lmmfao This clown gets funnier and funnier!
Read the manga clown.


Inb4 "Naruto's chakra hurr durr" I suggest you show me the cloak powering him up, otherwise don't bother replying.

His PS is featless without Kyuubi, Juugo, and Hagoromo power. That is a manga fact.

Irrelevant.

You once said he was never infused by Kyuubi chakra after Obito power dived him and the cloak was not shown, despite it starting to fade on the shinobi when Kurama was ripped from Naruto. That is a manga fact.
Except I only said that there was no power up after Obito power dived him. Let's not twist my words to make your (invalid) argument seem more valid than it really is. Diminished Kurama Cloak=/=Full Kurama Cloak. That right there is common sense. Start using it.

But then you like to use the Sai example as evidence that the cloak was gone despite that being an earlier part of the war where the cloak was only Yin Kurama, where as the one he later gave the shinobi (along with Sasuke) was Yin+Yang Kurama chakra so it would last longer, as it was noted to be bigger and stronger than before, another manga fact. You're probably going to tell me to go get proof that a Yin+Yang Kurama cloak will last longer than only a Yin one now.

And what the hell are you going on about? This post just shows that you are either a massive straw man, or you can't comprehend my arguments correctly.

1. The Sai example is proof the diminished chakra Naruto gave them WASN'T powering them up.

2. No Cloak=No Power Up. If the cloak vanishes, there is no power up, as the manga shows.

When you or Draegod can actually show me Sasuke being buffed by Naruto when he made PS, then we can talk about his PS not being enough to win him this fight, until then, I can only suggest that you read the manga, correctly this time.
 

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PS=Kurama Avatar in speed, strength and durability AFTER Rikudo Power Up. Remove said power up, and you get the same conclusion. PS has to be Mountain Level at least to fight against the Kurama Avatar, as the manga has shown.

Actually, Naruto's BM avatar was already Island Level in durability when it survived V1 Juubi's laser, Madara's PS has never shown to be at that level, as the best attack he tanked was mountain level, and then there's also the fact that Chojo Kebutsu destroyed his PS. So, if Sasuke's PS is indeed equal to Nardo's BM Avatar in durability, then it's above Madara's PS in durability. Just throwing this out there.

Logically, his DC should also be superior, but that's just speculation.
 
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