[VS] EMS Sasuke vs BSM Naruto.

[Smd]

sasuke beats naruto mid diff like he always has

naruto has never beat sasuke

thats why his fanboys are so mad and troll so much

 

[RustledJimmies]

1 and 4. Are you actually saying that SM doesn't enhance BM Naruto at all? I've got news for you, it's literally against the definition of senjutsu to not have it that way. BSM Naruto's attacks are senjutsu since they can hurt Obito. This is what Fukasaku said about senjutsu.

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If this were just SM and BM used simultaneously, TBBs from the Kurama cloak were just Naruto adding his own senjutsu chakra into it, The TBB itself would not be senjutsu, and the result would be only Naruto's chakra would reach Obito. Due to Kurama's chakra being far more massive than Naruto's, there's nowhere near enough natural energy attached to Naruto's chakra to match Kurama's. Therefore, Naruto must have fused natural energy with Kurama's chakra. Otherwise, by Fukasaku's definitions, his attack would not be senjutsu.


2. You're missing the point. Why did he mention "right after susanoo?" This would mean that he can't use both simultaneously. Also, the fact that he relies on enton projectiles further proves my point.

3. You do realize that everything in a VS match is speculation right? Your assumption that Naruto has not increased his time limit is also speculation.

1. Feats show otherwise , bro , nothing has improved , if it did , then please show me how much .

2. that means that using both right after the other would take a lot from him , again that was MS Sasuke .

3. i'm using feats , and by feats he's not staying in BM for any longer than 8 minutes .

 

[Tarinth]

Although I prefer Sasuke over Naruto, based on feats, BSM Naruto definitely takes this mid-high dif.
Even going by Kishi's portrayal of them as equals, that's only if they fight one on one. Naruto can still make several extra kage level clones that will allow him to win. Sasuke only wins if you give him Madara's PS feats, AND Madara's stamina to keep it up for more than like 2 minutes.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

1. Feats show otherwise , bro , nothing has improved , if it did , then please show me how much .

2. that means that using both right after the other would take a lot from him , again that was MS Sasuke .

3. i'm using feats , and by feats he's not staying in BM for any longer than 8 minutes .

1. There's no visual difference between ninjutsu and senjutsu. It all looks the same, with no increase in explosions, but it is enhanced as directly stated.

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Sage ransenshuriken.

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As you can see, the sage version of ransenshuriken looks no more powerful than the normal version, yet it clearly is from Fukasaku's statement that senjutsu buffs ninjutsu. Just because an attack doesn't look as powerful, doesn't, by any means, means that it isn't. I'm sorry, but feats aren't necessary when something's clearly defined.


2. Again, why does he bother with things like enton arrows when amaterasu is clearly harder to counter and is faster?

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3. That's crap. You give Sasuke feats of using amaterasu along with susanoo, yet he doesn't have those feats. This is just something to hide behind in order to dismiss my points without a thought.

 

[RustledJimmies]

1. There's no visual difference between ninjutsu and senjutsu. It all looks the same, with no increase in explosions, but it is enhanced as directly stated.

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Sage ransenshuriken.

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As you can see, the sage version of ransenshuriken looks no more powerful than the normal version, yet it clearly is from Fukasaku's statement that senjutsu buffs ninjutsu. Just because an attack doesn't look as powerful, doesn't, by any means, means that it isn't. I'm sorry, but feats aren't necessary when something's clearly defined.


2. Again, why does he bother with things like enton arrows when amaterasu is clearly harder to counter and is faster?

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3. That's crap. You give Sasuke feats of using amaterasu along with susanoo, yet he doesn't have those feats. This is just something to hide behind in order to dismiss my points without a thought.

1. Both FRS look the same to me , and no , unless you have feats there's nothing that proves that it actually enhances his attacks

2. Don't know if you know this but Enton is merely the control of the flames of Amaterasu .

3. how exactly is his BM improved with SM , Sasuke used Enton which is the control of Amaterasu , while Naruto never showed to have improved his BM with BSM bar sensing

 

[Sennin of Logic]

1. Both FRS look the same to me , and no , unless you have feats there's nothing that proves that it actually enhances his attacks

2. Don't know if you know this but Enton is merely the control of the flames of Amaterasu .

3. how exactly is his BM improved with SM , Sasuke used Enton which is the control of Amaterasu , while Naruto never showed to have improved his BM with BSM bar sensing

So if you don't see it, it doesn't exist. That's not an accurate way of thinking.

1. This is all the proof I need. I direct statement from the manga that no one can logically deny by "feats."

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ALL your taijutsu, ninjutsu, and genjutsu skills get a serious power-up. This is not debatable. The writer doesn't need to give feats if he's already stated that there's no exception.


2. Yes, I did, but think about it, why not use the more useful version unless he can't with susanoo simultaneously? Following your "feats" argument, he can't spawn it, only produce and shape it on his susanoo.

3. Read above. Everything's enhanced.

 

[RustledJimmies]

So if you don't see it, it doesn't exist. That's not an accurate way of thinking.

1. This is all the proof I need. I direct statement from the manga that no one can logically deny by "feats."

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ALL your taijutsu, ninjutsu, and genjutsu skills get a serious power-up. This is not debatable. The writer doesn't need to give feats if he's already stated that there's no exception.


2. Yes, I did, but think about it, why not use the more useful version unless he can't with susanoo simultaneously? Following your "feats" argument, he can't spawn it, only produce and shape it on his susanoo.

3. Read above. Everything's enhanced.

1. the author also stated that Amaterasu burns as hot as the sun , Sasuke has god-like speed , etc. if you don't have feats then there's no proof .

2. Because he doesn't want to ??

Unless you show me any feats of how improved his abilities are don't expect this discussion to go any further .

 

[Sennin of Logic]

1. the author also stated that Amaterasu burns as hot as the sun , Sasuke has god-like speed , etc. if you don't have feats then there's no proof .

2. Because he doesn't want to ??

Unless you show me any feats of how improved his abilities are don't expect this discussion to go any further .

1. In the databook. This is a direct manga statement, and I demonstrated that there is no visual difference.


2. If that's the case, Sasuke is dumber than Naruto.

 

[Turson]

Considering that Sasuke has PS he should be pretty much equal to Naruto, but when it comes to feats, Naruto takes this. Thing is, we cant estaminate how strong his PS is. Its basically featless.

Either way both of them are to going to get new power ups, so lets just sit back and enjoy.

 

[Latios]

I was wondering how Sasuke can survive this [video=youtube;Dd7yGvUTHnQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7yGvUTHnQ[/video]

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I was wondering how Sasuke can survive this [video=youtube;Dd7yGvUTHnQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7yGvUTHnQ[/video]

Fun fact, according to the databook, Jiraya's version of a single sage art: massive ransengan can hollow a mountain if it exploded. Imagine what a ton of them from a true sage does.

 

[Latios]

Fun fact, according to the databook, Jiraya's version of a single sage art: massive ransengan can hollow a mountain if it exploded. Imagine what a ton of them from a true sage does.

I think Sasuke might be able to amaterasu them considering they are close together so it would spread and burn all of them before it hits :I

 

[slimreaper]

I was wondering how Sasuke can survive this [video=youtube;Dd7yGvUTHnQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7yGvUTHnQ[/video]

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[Latios]

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Good Point ^^

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I think Sasuke might be able to amaterasu them considering they are close together so it would spread and burn all of them before it hits :I

Of course it wouldn't be enough, but I was merely saying it just to demonstrate just how powerful that was.

 

[adeshina365]

Kurama will scream in pain if he gets hit by Amaterasu.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Kurama will scream in pain if he gets hit by Amaterasu.

I'm pretty sure the Kurama avatar doesn't have any nerves to feel Pain. Having its tails blown off made no response.

 

[adeshina365]

I'm pretty sure the Kurama avatar doesn't have any nerves to feel Pain. Having its tails blown off made no response.

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[shelke]

^ Lol ....

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[Latios]

I would love to see how Sasuke counters Naruto's Senjutsu-Enhanced Bijuudama...