EMS Sasuke vs Base Minato

[LoZelda101]

sasuke solo's. **** it, even itachi solo's base minato. sig worthy!

 

[ARGUS]

Minato tags him and one shots him

 

[4 Sword Style]

Minato tags him and one shots him

Not happening with Sasuke's level of reflexes

 

[ComplexCity]

Not happening with Sasuke's level of reflexes

Please show me these magic reflexes that Sasuke has to avoid FTG and what defense Sasuke has against it as well

 

[Eng nawashi]

Well,it is incorrect to use coordinated feats in order to prove speed equality IMO,or Darui would he as fast as V1 Ay , part1 Kakashi would be as fast as Base Gai despite manga stating otherwise ,Asuma and Kuronai would be as fast as Base Gai and part 1 Kakashi, and RS ,TTB ,Yasaka Matagama , Obito Kamui Shuruikins and Susano's Arrows would be as fast though their individual feats obviously say otherwise , In order to prove speed equality correctly between 2 Jutsus/Shinobies ,you should compare their individual speed feats .
Sasuke being as fast as KCM Naruto aside from shunshin isn't far fetched though but it is still not enough to evade physically FTG blitz IMO .

 

[NarutoX28]

Please show me these magic reflexes that Sasuke has to avoid FTG and what defense Sasuke has against it as well

Please show me when FTG has enabled someone like Minato to defeat someone as reflexive as EMS Sasuke.

I love how you tell me it's not worth debating because you're frustrated that I have a different opinion than you. Unless you can prove FTG can allow someone as slow as Base Minato to defeat EMS Sasuke, then my point stands. Do not tell me FTG is a significant factor without even giving evidence to support that. Just because most people believe it does not mean I will.

 

[Icelerate]

EMS precog is nice but it won't help if Minato attacks from Sasuke's blind spot.

 

[ComplexCity]

Please show me when FTG has enabled someone like Minato to defeat someone as reflexive as EMS Sasuke.

I love how you tell me it's not worth debating because you're frustrated that I have a different opinion than you. Unless you can prove FTG can allow someone as slow as Base Minato to defeat EMS Sasuke, then my point stands. Do not tell me FTG is a significant factor without even giving evidence to support that. Just because most people believe it does not mean I will.

Frustrated? I'm not wasting my time with someone who stated FTG is irrelevant when FTG saved EMS Sasuke from getting blitzed where his all so fast reflexes failed. I asked you for scans and you didn't give me any. I'm not wasting my time with you, you're just as bias as Necromancer

 

[King Of Pop]

EMS precog is nice but it won't help if Minato attacks from Sasuke's blind spot.

true but cant sasuke prevent that from happening? he has shurikens and enton projectiles to deflect any tagged kunais. just saying

 

[Icelerate]

true but cant sasuke prevent that from happening? he has shurikens and enton projectiles to deflect any tagged kunais. just saying

True he can surround himself with enton.

This is a pretty long drawn out fight IMO.

 

[NarutoX28]

Frustrated? I'm not wasting my time with someone who stated FTG is irrelevant when FTG saved EMS Sasuke from getting blitzed where his all so fast reflexes failed. I asked you for scans and you didn't give me any. I'm not wasting my time with you, you're just as bias as Necromancer

FTG saved Naruto and Sasuke from an attack that Edo Hiruzen could react to.

That scan is not an indication that in a real combat scenario, EMS Sasuke would be unable to react to FTG and Minato's strike speed. Not to mention, that feat you presented is a feat done with KCM Minato, not Base Minato.

 

[NarutoX28]

EMS precog is nice but it won't help if Minato attacks from Sasuke's blind spot.

He has intel on it which means he can predict his location, so he can certainly make eye contact before Minato strikes.

 

[ComplexCity]

FTG saved Naruto and Sasuke from an attack that Edo Hiruzen could react to.

That scan is not an indication that in a real combat scenario, EMS Sasuke would be unable to react to FTG and Minato's strike speed. Not to mention, that feat you presented is a feat done with KCM Minato, not Base Minato.

You're retarded and I'm not wasting my time with you because you don't even comprehend anything. It doesn't matter what form it was done in. You stated that FTG was irrelevant and I was showing you FTG saved Sasukes life where his supposed godly reflexes failed him. You act as if Minato can only use FTG one kunai at a time despite the feats proving other wise. I'm not wasting my time debating with you. You still failed to refute the other posts in the other thread so I don't see myself wasting time with you here. Soon as you said FTG was irrelevant, I knew to pull out

 

[4 Sword Style]

You're retarded and I'm not wasting my time with you because you don't even comprehend anything. It doesn't matter what form it was done in. You stated that FTG was irrelevant and I was showing you FTG saved Sasukes life where his supposed godly reflexes failed him. You act as if Minato can only use FTG one kunai at a time despite the feats proving other wise. I'm not wasting my time debating with you. You still failed to refute the other posts in the other thread so I don't see myself wasting time with you here. Soon as you said FTG was irrelevant, I knew to pull out

FTG can only be used as fast as the user's reactions are. Base Minato would have taken longer to use FTG, and in the same scenario Naruto and Sasuke would have died

True he can surround himself with enton.

This is a pretty long drawn out fight IMO.

It's only a drawn out fight if Minato plays chicken and runs away the entire match. Sasuke is easily the stronger combatant here

 

[FlyingRaijinLVL2]

Minato bodies.

 

[NarutoX28]

You're retarded and I'm not wasting my time with you because you don't even comprehend anything. It doesn't matter what form it was done in. You stated that FTG was irrelevant and I was showing you FTG saved Sasukes life where his supposed godly reflexes failed him. You act as if Minato can only use FTG one kunai at a time despite the feats proving other wise. I'm not wasting my time debating with you. You still failed to refute the other posts in the other thread so I don't see myself wasting time with you here. Soon as you said FTG was irrelevant, I knew to pull out

It's retarded how you're calling me retarded about having a different opinion of what a manga depicts.

Your example is inaccurate because FTG activation heavily relies on one's reactions and Minato was only able to save EMS Sasuke due to have Kyuubi Cloak Mode which enhances his reactions. Not only that, but Sasuke has already displayed a feat similar r to this by not only mentally reacting, but intercepting Juubito's Gudoudama with his own speed while being enveloped his his Susano'o which decreases his own speed.

But it doesn't matter because your feat doesn't apply to a real combat scenario and only shows that KCM Minato can react to Juubito's Gudoudama's extension with FTG which even Edo Hiruzen could physically react to.

You can keep crying and throw insults at me, but I'll still hold to my argument unless you can convince me otherwise. There are better ways to get your point across without throwing insults like Donald Trump does.

 

[ComplexCity]

It's retarded how you're calling me retarded about having a different opinion of what a manga depicts.

Your example is inaccurate because FTG activation heavily relies on one's reactions and Minato was only able to save EMS Sasuke due to have Kyuubi Cloak Mode which enhances his reactions. Not only that, but Sasuke has already displayed a feat similar r to this by not only mentally reacting, but intercepting Juubito's Gudoudama with his own speed while being enveloped his his Susano'o which decreases his own speed.

But it doesn't matter because your feat doesn't apply to a real combat scenario and only shows that KCM Minato can react to Juubito's Gudoudama's extension with FTG which even Edo Hiruzen could physically react to.

You can keep crying and throw insults at me, but I'll still hold to my argument unless you can convince me otherwise. There are better ways to get your point across without throwing insults like Donald Trump does.

This is not even funny anymore


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So slowly stretching chakara arms was enhanced by KCM?

FTG can only be used as fast as the user's reactions are. Base Minato would have taken longer to use FTG, and in the same scenario Naruto and Sasuke would have died

FTG is instant or am I missing something?







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Sasuke mentally reacted with Sussano which Itachi did as well. Sussano is restricted.

 

[Brooks]

FTG is instant or am I missing something?

Hiraishin no Jutsu(FTG) is instant, but Minato isn't instant any shape or form. Technique=/=Movement

Comparing the two is simply stupid.

OT: Minato attempt to blitz, Sasuke reacts and puts a Chidori through his head.

 

[ComplexCity]

Hiraishin no Jutsu(FTG) is instant, but Minato isn't instant any shape or form. Technique=/=Movement

Comparing the two is simply stupid.

OT: Minato attempt to blitz, Sasuke reacts and puts a Chidori through his head.

Seeing your avatar and signature I'm not surprised by your answer but wont assume anything



Please quote me where I compared the two

 

[Brooks]

Seeing your avatar and signature I'm not surprised by your answer but wont assume anything



Please quote me where I compared the two

You respond to 4 Sword Style's statement of "FTG can only be used as fast as the user's reactions are." and tried to counter it with this statement "FTG is instant or am I missing something" in order to try and justify Minato not having an inferior reaction when it had nothing to with FTG's being instantaneous, but you mistake was bringing up Hiraishin into the mix when 4 Sword's main point was to cover why Minato can't do anything effective with Hiraishin since he doesn't have the reaction and movement to achieve victory.

FTG can only be used as fast as the user's reactions are. Base Minato would have taken longer to use FTG, and in the same scenario Naruto and Sasuke would have died

FTG is instant or am I missing something?