[VS] EMS Sasuke vs. Akatsuki

[adeshina365]

Finger genjutsu? LMAO.

 

[Tartarus]

I;m seeing a lot of no-limits fallacy on the akatsuki side. GSB in particular.

 

[Draegod]

Let the weak ass finger genjutsu go!.... It is weak and easy to break if you are elite!

 

[Shura]

Odd.. according to AkatsukiChurch:

Does this or does this not imply Kisame needs to create his own water source, like so [

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], before using the GSB? My whole point was that this isn't a requirement to use the GSB. He can use it just as Zetsu proceeded to use it against Bee and Ay which only takes a second or two considering how fast he regurgitated the lake and WD.

I and Bijuu already discussed this Zetsu matter. Yes, he can use it without creating his own water source, but there is nothing that tells us how big or powerful it would be. It definitely won't be as powerful as the one Kisame used against Gai so whats the point of using this weaker version of GSB which won't allow him to actually stand a chance against Sasuke's PS?​

@bold...? Because according to AkatsukiChurch:

Really? We both know what I meant so no point in bringing this up. What I meant was that it would need time to actually consume something as PS.​

Furthermore, Kisame specifically said the stronger the jutsu, the better GSB works.

Yes, the bigger and more powerful. Still no feats as to how fast it absorbs. Saying that it would absorb PS quickly when both Gakido and Samehada have shown to be not quite fast at absorbing much smaller Chakra based attacks would be wrong.​

@ underline, and again, the shockwave requires a large extension and large swing of the sword for it to create a shockwave [

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] It won't have the room to do so when the GSB makes contact with the susano'o

Nothing stops Sasuke from just shortening the blade (although the shockwave would be a bit weaker, it would still be enough to get rid off something as GSB) or creating another arm at it's shoulder and then swinging his blade with that arm instead. [

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] Even in the scenario you are talking about, this is all assuming that GSB can actually eat Chakra based attacks that come from the side. As far as we know, it can only ''eat'' Chakra with it's mouths as it's been shown that it's actually trying to eat Hirudora. And even if the tip of Sasuke's blade does enter the GSB itself, it will only manage to shave off a bit of Chakra from it before the shockwave is created which would blow away the GSB. The GSB absorption does not stop the actual movement of the sword and it definitely has no feats that tell us it will be able to absorb the whole sword while absorbing PS itself in the second the sword enters and exits the GSB.​

 

[Penguin]

Itachi will definitely use finger genjutsu against Sasuke who can see through genjutsu with his sharingan. I swear that guy is a fail version of Uchihahahaa who I miss dearly. [R.I.P]

GSB is a linear attack, so Kisame cannot hide behind the Yata and just fire them off, as they would hit the shield.

 

[Minator93]

Akatsuki takes this comfortably U_U

 

[Nattana]

Itachi will definitely use finger genjutsu against Sasuke who can see through genjutsu with his sharingan. I swear that guy is a fail version of Uchihahahaa who I miss dearly. [R.I.P]

You have just proven your stupidity. Finger Genjutsu has got nothing to do with Sharingan.

And you think Sasuke is an idiot who will keep on looking at Itachi's finger? It's been stated that Itachi's Genjutsu is ineffective against Sasuke by more than one person so this isn't really debatable.​

Sasuke doesn't need to look at the finger lol. Itachi points his finger and you're screwed. Comparing Sharingan Genjutsu to non-Sharingan Genjutsu is stupid since they have nothing to do with each other. Now tell me more about how Sasuke resisted Sound Genjutsu for example. Just stop living in denial.

 

[~Sky~]

You have just proven your stupidity. Finger Genjutsu has got nothing to do with Sharingan.

Ummmm what? Sharingan can see through any Genjutsu, not just Sharingan ones. Go watch the Itachi vs Kurenai "fight."

 

[Shura]

Sasuke doesn't need to look at the finger lol. Itachi points his finger and you're screwed. Comparing Sharingan Genjutsu to non-Sharingan Genjutsu is stupid since they have nothing to do with each other. Now tell me more about how Sasuke resisted Sound Genjutsu for example. Just stop living in denial.

.........What? No. You have to look at the finger. And what does Sound Genjutsu have to do anything with this? That's not Itachi's Genjutsu. You make absolutely no sense. It was stated that Itachi's GENJUTSU, not just visual Genjutsu is useless on Sasuke.​

 

[Nattana]

.........What? No. You have to look at the finger. And what does Sound Genjutsu have to do anything with this? That's not Itachi's Genjutsu. You make absolutely no sense. It was stated that Itachi's GENJUTSU, not just visual Genjutsu is useless on Sasuke.​

Judging by the scan you posted, it's clear (at least to me) that he meant Sharingan Genjutsu.
And how do you know that you need to look at the finger? I'm pretty sure that you don't have to. What would looking at it or not looking change anyway?

But still, I cannot convince you, so further posting in this thread would be pointless. Take care :3

@Edit.
Please tell me what is it with that stupid penis face you post all the time? Others got infected and now use it as well, in every single post...

 

[End of Days]

The akatsuki stand a chance however team work would be required

-Even simple jutsus a katon jutsu can come in handy if used correctly

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these katon jutsus can be used to block sasuke's line of sight which will cause jutsus like amaterasu or enton to get wasted on these

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-This in turn can give them time to launch an attack against sasuke, perhaps a collective attack or kisame can take charge, Great Shark Bullet was undoubtedly the strongest absorption jutsu of kisame and kisame could reduce v2 bee to v1 immediately so i think it stands a good chance of devouring susanoo

(the interesting thing about it is that kisame says it gets bigger and stronger as it absorbs target's jutsu)

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so size of the thing getting absorbed is of no real concern, GSB will continue to grow as it absorbs

-The 'shockwave' of perfect susanoo has only ever been produced when the sword hit an object (first meteor, second mokuton hand), the rest of the times it was casually caught by hashirama and no shockwave was produced, hashirama was standing just beneath the sword in one case

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-Enton projectiles except susanoo arrow have only been shown to be as fast as rasenshuriken and the paths of pein avoided it, enton isnt hitting akatsuki unless its an arrow but it takes time to mold an arrow from the orb and take aim

 

[Forbidden Technique]

I and Bijuu already discussed this Zetsu matter. Yes, he can use it without creating his own water source, but there is nothing that tells us how big or powerful it would be. It definitely won't be as powerful as the one Kisame used against Gai so whats the point of using this weaker version of GSB which won't allow him to actually stand a chance against Sasuke's PS?​

Let this guide you into realizing how big and powerful Kisame's suiton can be [

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], he can spew entire lakes out of his mouth and still have the chakra capacity to hold it all together into a bubble-shaped dome. You are trying way too hard to deny Kisames prowess with suiton for Sasukes sake. Depending on the amount of chakra Kisame puts into it; a GSB without any pre-existent water source isn't going to be so significantly weaker or smaller then the one that was shown that it'll make a major difference in the amount of chakra it could handle.

Really? We both know what I meant so no point in bringing this up. What I meant was that it would need time to actually consume something as PS.​

Clearly not. And it doesn't need to consume the entire PS. Whatever area the GSB is aimed at, whether it be aimed at the legs, torso, or the area where Sasuke is (which would be the most logical option), it's going to destabilize in that area and impair the whole humanoid. If it's shot in the legs, the susano'o will fall; if it's shot in the torso, it will collapse; if it's shot as Sasuke, it'll rip him right out of the susano'o and the Akatasuki will proceed to destroy him.

Yes, the bigger and more powerful. Still no feats as to how fast it absorbs. Saying that it would absorb PS quickly when both Gakido and Samehada have shown to be not quite fast at absorbing much smaller Chakra based attacks would be wrong.​

Could you possibly try to grasp at anymore straws? Honestly. After Hirudora and the GSB made contact, how long did it take for Kisame to question himself why wasn't it absorbing the jutsu? [

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] a few seconds at best.

Nothing stops Sasuke from just shortening the blade (although the shockwave would be a bit weaker, it would still be enough to get rid off something as GSB) or creating another arm at it's shoulder and then swinging his blade with that arm instead. [

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] Even in the scenario you are talking about, this is all assuming that GSB can actually eat Chakra based attacks that come from the side. As far as we know, it can only ''eat'' Chakra with it's mouths as it's been shown that it's actually trying to eat Hirudora. And even if the tip of Sasuke's blade does enter the GSB itself, it will only manage to shave off a bit of Chakra from it before the shockwave is created which would blow away the GSB. The GSB absorption does not stop the actual movement of the sword and it definitely has no feats that tell us it will be able to absorb the whole sword while absorbing PS itself in the second the sword enters and exits the GSB.​

Lol, how is this tactic of shortening the blade or creating another arm even going to make the slightest difference. He still would need the ample room to swing the sword at full force and with a long stride for a shockwave to occur. Do you comprehend what I'm saying? The susano'o needed to take an entire step forward (a stride) to give him the momentum to fully swing the sword at full force which was a very large swing and extension of the arm. Sasuke will barely manage a quarter of that swing with no stride at all, which greatly impairs the force the sword would produce. And this is assuming that Sasuke even knows he can create shockwaves with his sword, number one. He's never done it before, nor has he ever seen it happen. I have no idea why you think Sasuke understands how to counter the GSB effectively when he has no understanding of the jutsu, nor much experience at all with the PS.

And I am assuming that the GSB is able to absorb a jutsu coming from the side, you're right. But what suggests it can't? The GSB is a suiton technique created by Kisames chakra. What differentiates the mouth from the rest of this technique to even suggest it can't? Unless he did in a Viz translation that I don't know about, Kisame said nothing about it needing to eat the jutsu in order to absorb it. He specifically said the jutsu itself absorbs chakra, no indication there that implies whatever the mouth of jutsu 'eats' is what absorbs chakra.

 

[-immortal-]

PS > akatsuki members there.

 

[Avinash012]

Team Akatsuki wins since Itachi and Kisame are there.