EMS Sasuke + Kurama VS Hashirama.

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huh that's strange, Sasuke surpressed Kurama's chakra with 3 tomoe.
I thought MS was required to control a tailed beast?
Is this a new feat for Sasuke?
Can he control tailed beasts now with 3 tomoe? that's what u are saying since u said surpressing is the same as controlling

Obito did it with 3T as well so no point in stating this. Surpressing essentially is as same as controlling in this case. More so, Kurama has absolutely no resistance to Genjustu so I don't know where you're even getting this ''Kurama will be able to resist being controlled''. MS being able to control Kurama is fact so this isn't debatable.
 

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lol He doesn't stand a chance.

He took on Madara high diff due to Madara's crazy reserves, Sasuke sadly doesn't have the large chakra reserves to imitate what Madara showcased.

Hashirama takes this mid-high diff only because Sasuke will collapse before Madara did at VOTE.
 

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I don't agree with the Chakra reserves point, as Sasuke was compared to Madara by Kurama as well and that was a statement on their chakra. Uchiha Chakra is more sinister as they gain more power. Then we have Kakashi's statement from part one how Sasuke - like Naruto - had large chakra reserves. I highly doubt he stopped after that.

Given all this, Hashirama takes this probably High Difference because of Enton manipulation, I believe. His Mokuton Dragon doesn't seem to affect Susano'o as it was grabbing it and yet it wasn't losing its shape, but all other Ninjutsu including Amaterasu should be negated by sprouting more Mokuton and Hashirama has shown to create quite massive ones.

How Hashirama wins is through creating Mokuton-Bushins - he could create 5 and 6 more readily when he lost the first ones and stated that that's all he could maintain. Meaning, he should be able to create more than double the amount easily. Granted Sasuke would put on a better fight than Madara given that as his Mokuton would strike PS it would be covered with Enton, proving to be quite the hazard for Hashirama.

However, Hashirama can outlast Sasuke, as his Chakra reserves are quite massive - biggest in the manga bar the Juubi's Jins. The fact that he has the reserves to outlast Sasuke makes me want to hand this fight over to him. I believe it's only fair. Kurama however can be easily controlled with 3T, as Obito, Madara, and Sasuke showed. It's BS that Sasuke cannot.

That 14 your old kid was nothing but a copy of Madara at that time.
Sasuke was already able to control Manda with his 3 tomoe not to mention
he was even able to suppress Kyuubi chakra with his ''weak'' genjutsu [ ]

So your statement is invalid.

edit: Lol at Obito being the greatest Genjutsu user... smh.

Don't bother with him - he's a new time of in-heat fruity Catherine here on NB - the more you try to drill, the more slutty it gets.
 

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It was also said Itachi was invincible.

feats baby feats
That's hype which is different and has been proven wrong anyways lmao Madara and Obito both controlled Kurama once they achieved MS.. Heck Obito used his 3 tomoe sharingan. You can't say that Sasuke isn't capable of doing that now that he has EMS.
 

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Sasuke's PS seems smaller than madara's, and so far does not have the same feats as well, so he loses.
 

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Sasuke would literally go down the same way Madara did. It only makes it worse that he don't have feats for Sasuke's Susanoo. So we have nothing to set it apart from the Susanoo Hashirama already defeated and there is a chance it might be weaker than Madara's.

Shinsuusenju and PS Kurama clash, Susanoo is destroyed, Hashirama suppresses Kurama with Mokujin and then he enters CQC with Sasuke where he beats him down.
 

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That 14 your old kid was nothing but a copy of Madara at that time.
Sasuke was already able to control Manda with his 3 tomoe not to mention
he was even able to suppress Kyuubi chakra with his ''weak'' genjutsu [ ]

So your statement is invalid.

edit: Lol at Obito being the greatest Genjutsu user... smh.

Still no scan? What a surprise Lol

Obito by feats is the greatest genjutsu user, not knowing that fact means you have low comprehension skill Lol
 

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Sasuke does not have the experience Madara had, and never fought with Hashirama when Hashirama fought with Uchiha's all his life. Hashirama mid diff.
 

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Still no scan? What a surprise Lol

Obito by feats is the greatest genjutsu user, not knowing that fact means you have low comprehension skill Lol

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itachi by feats is the greatest genjutsu user. it was only hear say that obito was controlling the mizukage. until you can provide some proof that obito can control a bijuu not named kurama against its will, then you have nothing
 

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The Sasuke hate in this thread... >.>

I believe Hashirama has more chance of winning personally. Sasuke would certainly put up a fight though, and who knows. It certainly isn't a one way rofl stomp like people are making out. U_U
 

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The Sasuke hate in this thread... >.>

I believe Hashirama has more chance of winning personally. Sasuke would certainly put up a fight though, and who knows. It certainly isn't a one way rofl stomp like people are making out. U_U


Basically this, Hashirama can still win this match, But if he wins its far from a ''lolol speedblitz''.

This due to Sasuke's

- Enton.
- Raiton.
- Aoda.
 

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Hashirama still takes this. Sasuke has an advantage with Enton, but that is counterbalanced with lacking Madara's overall stamina, and the fact that he hasn't shown to make an Enton big enough to do deter Shinsuusenju. There was also a portion of the fight we did not see, where Madara was able to significantly injure Hashirama. We don't know how he did it, so we can't say Sasuke does the same. Hashirama takes it with around the same difficulty as Madara, probably less or more, since we don't know what went down after Kurama was put to sleep.
 

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itachi by feats is the greatest genjutsu user. it was only hear say that obito was controlling the mizukage. until you can provide some proof that obito can control a bijuu not named kurama against its will, then you have nothing


Are you dumb? Obito controlled Kurama the greatest of all Bijjus against it's will and used it like a *****, also Obito controlled almost 7 bijjus simultaneously! Which again concretes his status as the greatest ever and there's the feat of him almost activating the Mugen Tsukuyomi!!

@ Bold, biitch please

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Also Sasuke didn't do shit, he can't control any bijjus but for the sake of this thread I was willing to believe that fanfic but still he gets stomped by Hashirama neg diff U_U
 

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Sasuke wins hiiiiiiiiiiii lol hashirama stomps lol madara was a farrrr better fighter then sasuke even before ems fought hashirama countless amount of times knew mostly all of his justu and still lost hashirama would lol stomp this man
 

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Sasuke can probably win if he's able to use Enton sword and Arrow on PS level. If he can, there's going to be too much hell fire for hashi to deal with.

Madara's speed, taijutsu, kenjutsu, blah blah advantages over sasuke don't matter in this matchup since it's happening exclusively at a kyuubi level.
 

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If sasuke somehow infuses his enton with TBBs he wins :cool:

If the fight goes same way then sasuke can win with ama shot that madara never had/shown
 
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Are you dumb? Obito controlled Kurama the greatest of all Bijjus against it's will and used it like a *****, also Obito controlled almost 7 bijjus simultaneously! Which again concretes his status as the greatest ever and there's the feat of him almost activating the Mugen Tsukuyomi!!

@ Bold, biitch please

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Also Sasuke didn't do shit, he can't control any bijjus but for the sake of this thread I was willing to believe that fanfic but still he gets stomped by Hashirama neg diff U_U
I don't understand how having basic sharingan feats makes him the best genjutsu user. I love how he got beat by kakashi. the same can't be said for itachi
 

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Really !?the absolute pinnacle of sharingan power cannot control a simple bijuu....
 
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