EMS Sasuke & KMC Naruto vs Tobirama & KSM Minato

[Touken]

Not necessarily. Some bombs are a lot more concentrated and devastating. Deidara's c0 done pathetic damage yet it was I think 10km radius.

Care to show me?

 

[KCN]

Care to show me?

his jutsu spanned 10km yet this is the crater which formed after

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. That is tiny.

not only that, but manda should have been obliterated by such a large explosion, yet he was still intact and he could manage few words

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[Touken]

his jutsu spanned 10km yet this is the crater which formed after

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. That is tiny.

not only that, but manda should have been obliterated by such a large explosion, yet he was still intact and he could manage few words

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Lol, calculations? Yeah, they don't exactly work. DA made 2 threads, one for Juubi, and then one for Kurama later on. He used the exact same method, yet those calculations inferred Kurama's bigger than the Juubi. The explosion [

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] ate up everything in it's radius. Manda managing a few words doesn't make Deidara's explosion any weaker, every character that's about to die manages a few last words. Asuma shouldn't have had the strength to talk after having his heart impaled, apparently that wasn't the case.

 

[KCN]

Lol, calculations? Yeah, they don't exactly work. DA made 2 threads, one for Juubi, and then one for Kurama later on. He used the exact same method, yet those calculations inferred Kurama's bigger than the Juubi. The explosion [

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] ate up everything in it's radius. Manda managing a few words doesn't make Deidara's explosion any weaker, every character that's about to die manages a few last words. Asuma shouldn't have had the strength to talk after having his heart impaled, apparently that wasn't the case.

Not really sure if serious, bro. Btw, it wasn't my intentions to show calculations, those thing are irrelevant, but the actual aftermath of the explosion.

- My scan is more relevant. Why? It shows the aftermath of the explosion, and it clearly shows that the crater formed by Deidara's c0 was absolutely laughable.

- To add insult to injury, even the trees surrounding the explosion were completely intact

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What do those things tell you? It tells us that despite it having such a large range, it's firepower doesn't equate to its range.

erm, btw, getting stabbed in the heart doesn't always mean instant death. There are cases where people are still conscious enough to call the police etc..

 

[Avinash012]

Lol, calculations? Yeah, they don't exactly work. DA made 2 threads, one for Juubi, and then one for Kurama later on. He used the exact same method, yet those calculations inferred Kurama's bigger than the Juubi. The explosion [

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] ate up everything in it's radius. Manda managing a few words doesn't make Deidara's explosion any weaker, every character that's about to die manages a few last words. Asuma shouldn't have had the strength to talk after having his heart impaled, apparently that wasn't the case.

It is not just a calculation Deidara said that it's

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[Latios]

I see Team 1 taking this Mid-High-Dif. Sasuke + Naruto is too devastating...

 

[Touken]

Not really sure if serious, bro. Btw, it wasn't my intentions to show calculations, those thing are irrelevant, but the actual aftermath of the explosion.

- My scan is more relevant. Why? It shows the aftermath of the explosion, and it clearly shows that the crater formed by Deidara's c0 was absolutely laughable.

- To add insult to injury, even the trees surrounding the explosion were completely intact

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What do those things tell you? It tells us that despite it having such a large range, it's firepower doesn't equate to its range.

erm, btw, getting stabbed in the heart doesn't always mean instant death. There are cases where people are still conscious enough to call the police etc..

-Except that the explosion wasn't designed to go down, only up.
-The trees were out of the explosion's radius. Not sure how that adds insult to injury.
-Getting stabbed in the heart usually makes the victim lose consciousness after a minute, and then dies at least 20 seconds later. Movies aren't exactly a good representation of what happens when a person gets stabbed in the heart.

 

[KCN]

-Except that the explosion wasn't designed to go down, only up.
-The trees were out of the explosion's radius. Not sure how that adds insult to injury.
-Getting stabbed in the heart usually makes the victim lose consciousness after a minute, and then dies at least 20 seconds later. Movies aren't exactly a good representation of what happens when a person gets stabbed in the heart.

- No, it was made to span a wide radius, and despite this, it barely scratched the earth.
- No they weren't. The explosion has a radius of 10km, so it should have easily covered that small distance from one end to another. The crater is the focal point and epicenter of the explosion. The trees surrounding the crater were apart of the forest Deidara and Sasuke fought in, and deidara released the explosion right next to it

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yet trees remain.
- Exactly. So they can still manage a few words.

 

[Touken]

- No, it was made to span a wide radius, and despite this, it barely scratched the earth.
- No they weren't. The explosion has a radius of 10km, so it should have easily covered that small distance from one end to another. The crater is the focal point and epicenter of the explosion. The trees surrounding the crater were apart of the forest Deidara and Sasuke fought in, and deidara released the explosion right next to it

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yet trees remain.
- Exactly. So they can still manage a few words.

-And it spanned that wide radius. It's still designed to go up.
-No? It's a forest. The trees next to Deidara were destroyed, but it obviously didn't destroy the entire forest, which is why trees remain.
-Definitely not a full conversation, which is what Asuma managed.

 

[KCN]

-And it spanned that wide radius. It's still designed to go up.
-No? It's a forest. The trees next to Deidara were destroyed, but it obviously didn't destroy the entire forest, which is why trees remain.
-Definitely not a full conversation, which is what Asuma managed.

- It spanned that wide radius yet the entire area wasn't destroyed.
- Exactly. a 10KM explosion should have easily decimated the entire area. There is the epicenter of the explosion, then there is the detonation where the explosion expands across the land

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. The expansion clearly didn't pack much punch, as seen where the area surrounding the crater is completely fine.
- It was exagerrated. Who cares, the point is he could talk and so could Manda after coming out of an explosion that large. Seriously, his body was intact, and Sasuke managed to survive while inside when it should of obliterated both him and Manda.

 

[KidGamer65]

What? So we're saying GK isn't powerful because they're just paper tags? An explosion's an explosion. If Shinsuusenju can break PS after having hundreds of it's arms destroyed by multiple Bijuudama/PS combinations, I'm sure GK would eventually do the trick. Bijuudama's just an explosion, GK's just an explosion.

Didn't say that, its simply weak compared to Bijuu Dama. And please don't say "an explosion is an explosion" like you can equate Bijuu Dama to Gojo because all explosions aren't made of the same energy. Energy from black and white chakra>>>>>Energy from Paper Tags Lol. Not to mention it has better feats. Lets not also forget that the Bijuu Dama PS tanked also has a larger AoE than Gojo, so don't try to use that as an argument either.

Shinsuusenju destroying PS has nothing to do with Gojo destroying PS. Nothing at all, so why that tells you Gojo would eventually do the trick is beyond me.


PS tanks Gojo like it tanked the superior Bijuu Dama. With no damage whatsoever.

lol, of course size means power. A bomb is defined by how big the explosion is, which is essentially what GK is. No, I'm not comparing GK to Shinsuusenju, I'm only showing that the full power of Shinsuusenju isn't required to break PS, which is why GK would eventually break PS.

This kind of argumentation goes against all logic. Shinsuusenju not using all its power to break PS doesn't mean that the vastly inferior Gojo would be able to break it. How in the world does that even make sense?

You say a bomb is defined by power (Which is obviously false), yet Bijuu Dama has a larger AoE and it was tanked with no damage, but you are telling me the smaller (therefore weaker by your logic) Gojo will eventually destroy it?

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Didn't say that, its simply weak compared to Bijuu Dama. And please don't say "an explosion is an explosion" like you can equate Bijuu Dama to Gojo because all explosions aren't made of the same energy. Energy from black and white chakra>>>>>Energy from Paper Tags Lol. Not to mention it has better feats. Lets not also forget that the Bijuu Dama PS tanked also has a larger AoE than Gojo, so don't try to use that as an argument either.

Lmao, really now? Shinsuusenju destroying PS has nothing to do with Gojo destroying PS. Nothing at all, so why that tells you Gojo would eventually do the trick is beyond me.


PS tanks Gojo like it tanked the superior Bijuu Dama. With no damage whatsoever. Don't start to overrate this technique.

Lets not forget it tanked Jinton as well.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lets not forget it tanked Jinton as well.

It was actually outside of the Jinton sphere.

 

[KCN]

goju is laughable to the hands of ps. the only real argument for goju is "its bigger therefore stronger". Not only that, but it's completely featless so saying it can destroy probably the second best defence in the manga (after onmyouden) is pretty insane.

 

[AGoodBoy]

He keeps using it over time until they break PS. Breaking PS doesn't have to be done in one go.

If it can't break it once, it will never break it. Susano'o will repair it self. They have a better chance with minato just getting ma and pa to use frog song to rattle sasuke's bones and get him to drop susano'o... meaning, again, tobirama isn't needed.

 

[KidGamer65]

goju is laughable to the hands of ps. the only real argument for goju is "its bigger therefore stronger". Not only that, but it's completely featless so saying it can destroy probably the second best defence in the manga (after onmyouden) is pretty insane.

Lol. Not to mention the bigger is better argument doesn't work here since PS already tanked something much larger than Gojo.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

It was actually outside of the Jinton sphere.

Oh, you should've just agreed with me, now I'm embarrassed

 

[KidGamer65]

Oh, you should've just agreed with me, now I'm embarrassed

Lol, why? Many worse things have been said on NB.

 

[KCN]

Lol. Not to mention the bigger is better argument doesn't work here since PS already tanked something much larger than Gojo.

Is Bijuudama's detonation range bigger than Goju?

 

[Conspirator.]

Here's what most people are not understanding: Madara's v4 UNSTABILIZED susanoo tanked a tailed beast ball from a 100% kyuubi at point blank range. Gojo is nothing more than fodder compared to it.
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Like I heavily implied in my earlier post, I think ejblacks shocking thread about tobirama beating ems madara(with the kyuubi) has spread an infectious disease amongst NB members with regards to Tobirama.